Friday, August 14, 2020

TKC EXCLUSIVE!!! KANSAS CITY THREATENS TO DENY E-TAX REFUND FOR TELEWORKERS AMID CORONAVIRUS!!!



Continued Kansas City coronavirus precautions, mandates and social distancing orders have created unintended consequences and a devastating threat to this cowtown's biggest source of revenue: The Earnings Tax.

To wit . . .

INSIDERS FEAR MASSIVE PUSH BACK FROM TELEWORKERS AGAINST THE E-TAX!!! ACCORDINGLY, CITY HALL IS NOW DEVELOPING E-TAX GUIDES/THREATS/WARNINGS TO EXPLAIN/ARGUE THAT PAYMENT IS STILL REQUIRED IF EMPLOYERS ARE BASED IN KANSAS CITY!!!

Evidence . . .

Behind the scenes Kansas City is taking guidance from STL given that "the Lou" has already announced plans to deny refunds to remote workers.

Noncity residents working remotely because of the pandemic are not eligible for refunds, said Tom Vollmer, an STL deputy collector for the city’s revenue department.

“They are still working from home, accessing a city-based business,” Vollmer said. “They are accessing the databases and using their computers and stuff from home.”

Of course, the KCMO is going to start with a polite but firm series of letters to local businesses encouraging them to smack down workers who gripe about paying the E-tax.

Translation . . .

THAT'S RIGHT, KANSAS CITY STILL WANTS E-TAX EVEN IF WORKERS NEVER SET FOOT IN THIS COWTOWN!!!

Previously, tax fighters had hoped that telework would provide an e-tax loophole but the brilliant legal minds at City Hall are now ready to challenge that assertion when telework is connected and facilitated by a company within city limits. And so those pointless Zoom meetings might cost many locals dearly.

Of course, this will INEVITABLY become a legal debate . . . Don't trust TKC with tax advice because we are NOT giving any . . . This post merely offers the FIRST preview of a fight that teleworkers will be forced to undertake with employers, accountants and City Hall.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Developing . . .

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

they better not even try it.

You want to talk about a real protest, that would be it.

Anonymous said...

Let me get this straight, KC wants more money from us but they're cutting services and budgets. NO THANKS!

Gr said...

^^^

Deal with it gramps. KC voters have endorsed the E-tax 3 times already by margins close to 40% it's not going away. Don't be a deadbeat.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^ said the deadbeat writing that comment from a homeless shelter!

Anonymous said...

Time to move the databases to the cloud, and the servers and printers out of KCMO to a low tax locale.

T said...

I think this proves once and for all what government really thinks, it's their money they're just letting you keep part of it. They know how to spend your money better than you do.

Anonymous said...

NY City started this and now other cities are following. Look for court challenges. The fact that a computer server is in a city doesn't give a city the right to tax non residents.

This probably has more to do with Cerner and Burns & Mac not getting their TIF funds if their employees work from the suburbs.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. Take the money away from the City Hall crooks.

Anonymous said...

What would happen if you fired 20% of the City workforce? Of course the city will not fire the most unqualified workers. But services are so pathetic today, not much of a difference will be apparent.

Anonymous said...

Interesting comments about denial of TIF refunds for remote workers. However, most cities seem to ignore the employment rules anyway once a TIF is in place.

Anonymous said...

Corporate masters pull the council strings.

Bandit said...

Good luck with that! Won't stand up in court and the issue will be pressed. You have no jurisdiction outside of your corporate limits.

Super Dave said...

This is interesting when companies based in Kansas City but have locations out of state those workers don't pay the e-tax. This e tax applies to those living and working within the city limits.

Anonymous said...


Got news for the city. They CAN'T do this and they can be sued. City Criminals at it again.

Anonymous said...

Gawd ... every day some new cartoon starring KCMO. They’re worried about washing the windows while the house burns down.

Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you have a boy doing a mans job.

Anonymous said...

If employees are working from home on an indefinite basis employers should stop withholding the E tax. Let the city go after thousands of employee's to try and collect. The city may refuse to refund taxes in violation of the law but they will have trouble getting courts to side with them if they have to sue to collect.

Anonymous said...

I would hope the employers getting TIFs for their E-tax collections are careful about withholding. If they withhold in violation of the law and then employees are forced to spend legal fees to get refunds I could see class action lawsuits.

Anonymous said...

KC and St Louis are allowed the E-tax by the state of MO. Look for the legislature to get involved if they screw over too many suburban taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

Wait till the Northland de-annexes!
That will take away 50% of KCMO's land area,
42% of its population, and (according to City Hall's own statistics),
63% of its REVENUES, not counting anything received from the Airport!

The howls from 12th & Oak will reach Heaven, but after the 1980 Constitutional changes and prior Court decisions, the Law is on the northlander's side.

Good luck, Baja KC!

Bandit said...

Kansas Shitty is at the point of digging through couches for loose change. They will shake everybody down for whatever they can get. Expect new taxes and fees, further drops in services, shittier roads with painted potholes and further mismanagement.

The priorities are street graffiti, finding somebody on the toy choo choo and graft from the new KCI that we didn't need before the zombie virus cootie crap.

You are doing an outstanding job Q Ball! Keep up the good work! Shut some more stuff down while you are at it. Power trips are fun but the deceleration trauma resulting when they end will leave one helluva mark. This is fun to watch!

Anonymous said...

This of course backfire on City Hall. It will only encourage employers to relocate their offices out of Kansas City.
Why should people pay double taxation?

Anonymous said...

This is contrary to how this tax has been applied in the past. What determined whether or not you paid it was where you sat your butt while working. Days that you travelled or worked in other locations the e-tax was not assessed. To claim that the location of the home office now determines if you pay the tax, even if you do not work in the home office is huge reach and the city ought to be sued by the employees who are getting screwed.

Anonymous said...

welcome to kansas......

Anonymous said...

if a kcmo corporation has an rmployee eho lives in denver and has from the day of hire, does that colorado teleworker havebtompay the earnings tax now?

Anonymous said...

City cannot afford it as mayor Lick Ass and his protestor buddies run off the tax base. Lets paint hate speech on streets that will get businesses to move in !!!! What a jack ass idea that is. Get your taxes from your BLM buddies.

Anonymous said...

Paint "Mom Send Money" on the streets.

Anonymous said...

The E-Tax may have had a good history or passing on votes BUT I bet it gets a run for its money next time it is on the ballot...people are fed up with not getting their return on taxes paid...

Bandit said...

Shouldn't that be "Mom Send Mo' Money!" 10:41?

Anonymous said...

@6:50, you are and you illustrate a shining example of why renters should NOT be allowed to vote on any tax issue. One parcel, one vote.

Anonymous said...

TOP PHOTO -- KCMO PLASTERED

"..but the brilliant legal minds at City Hall!!!"

Anonymous said...

The E-Tax applies, i.e. to "All earnings of nonresident individuals for services performed or rendered in the city." It's going to be a tough question whether a person working from home in Independence for an employer located in Kansas City owes the E-Tax. The City will argue that the employee's services are performed in Kansas City because the services are not complete until the employer receives them. Employees will argue that the services are brainpower and entering information into a home computer, both of which are done outside the city.

It's a tossup which argument will prevail in court.

President Kamala said...

You get what you voted for. As the last E-tax vote approached, I distinctly recall telling my acquaintances not to vote for it. It passed easily. The voters in this fucked up shitty are stupid, and always uninformed. I talk to my neighbors about national politics and get blank stares as they think about their McDonald's upcoming trip. MSM will misinform Kamala into the White House. BLM protesters will receive The Nobel Peace Prize. Can't fix stupid.

Anonymous said...

The e-tax started out as a promise to KCMO residents that there would be FREE trash bags and pick-up.
So its very beginnings were based on a lie.
Then it was sold to folks who worked in KCMO, but didn't live there, that the tax supported all the "services" that were provided to them.
Which are mostly non-existent or at least certainly difficult to identify.
So actually the e-tax is just another method of filling the huge slush fund that is generously referred to as the "city general fund" and is regularly tapped for funding pretty much any proposal that comes along and can get seven votes.
Not at all clear that a legal challenge wouldn't prevail.

Anonymous said...

The first 1/2 per cent was passed in 1964 for additional police funds, the other 1/2 per cent was passed in 1973 for free trash pickup, free trash bags and no burning of leaves and trash.

Anonymous said...

You forgot that we use to have the city sticker for your car.

Anonymous said...

The city law department has begin filing lawsuits against individuals dating back to 2014 that they believe were residents of KC based on IRS information. They are taking $100 tax assessments and turning them into collections for $1000 for interest, penalties and legal fees. Some of these people didn't live in KC or work in KC but now they have to fight the city to prove otherwise.

Anonymous said...

So let's see, unnamed "insiders" are scared because "behind the scenes," Kansas City is (supposedly, without any attribution) taking advice from St. Louis, and you have the gall to call this "evidence?"

OK, Brenda Starr. Great "reporting".

Retro ROCKER said...

If it wasn't City government it would be called RACKETEERING EXTORTION. R.I.C.O.

Anonymous said...

DST Systems Inc was the major force years ago that spearheaded the etax. Of course everyone of their buildings and headquarters was downtown. Thanks them!

Bandit said...

1:05 The city will argue and lose. Had it not been for the actions of the city they would not be forced to move their offices into their homes. Will the city pay moving expenses and rent? I highly doubt it.

Anonymous said...

Democrats Refuse to Help the People & Demand State Pension Funds Must be Bailed Out

The Democratic leadership (Schumer/Pelosi) is deliberately trying to hurt the people in hopes that they will blame Trump. They are also demanding bailouts for the Blue States to cover their own pensions which were broke before this virus. This is putting government employees above the people. As reported before, they have promised the Blue State governors that if they keep the lockdowns and hurt the people enough to vote against Trump, they will bail out all the state employee pension funds which are broke. Indeed, the 2020 elections will be a monumental turning point in the United States if the Democrats win. We have politics becoming so toxic on both ends it is insane.

Anonymous said...

The layoffs have started.

Anonymous said...

Nice rant @3:46, copied from Breitbart or Epoch Times?

Not mentioned, is the FACT that the Democrats TRIED TO GET HELP TO THE PEOPLE IN MAY, AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL SINCE THEN TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING!

And before you start reciting the lying GOP mantra about the Democrats wanting to load the bill with pork, let me remind you that one of the things the Republicans are insisting on is that $340 Million be included in the Bill so Melania can redecorate the White House!

Anonymous said...

They won’t be able to tax themselves out if the mess Mayor 10-10-10 created.
He keeps shutting stuff down when less than 100 people died and most were old.
He is an idiot.
So they want to tax you even if you don’t work there.
Mayor 10-10–10 is an idiot.

Bandit said...

The crap kingdom they have built is crumbling down. I'd like to have sympathy but I don't. Tried hard too. Really did.

Anonymous said...

^^^You fucking liar! You haven’t tried anything! You’re on here 24/7!

Bandit said...

Jealous much? Oh wow! The stalker is following me again. I'm, shocked and mortally wounded with his jabs.

ROFLMFAO!!! He hasn't figured out that I could care less! FOOL!