Sunday, May 24, 2020

TKC SUNDAY SPECIAL!!! KANSAS CITY CHURCHES REOPEN AS PREZ TRUMP ORDER CREATES CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE FOR PROGRESSIVE CHRISTIANS!!!



Politics, science and a leap of faith confront Christians this Sunday in Kansas City and throughout the nation.

The dilemma . . .

PREZ TRUMP ORDERING CHURCH REOPEN TESTS OF THE FAITH OF HIS CRITICS!!!

Here are just a few moral dilemmas that this brilliant political posturing evokes . . .

True believers in MAGA and the Big JC still confront the same risks as everyone else.

Authorities continue to advise against large gatherings.

Many Democratic Party loyalists desperately want to return to church but rebuke any command from the President on the topic of faith & morals.

Meanwhile, traditional conservatives who advocate small government and a separation betwixt Church & State bristle at the faith-based edict from the Commander-In-Chief which sets a dangerous precedent of White House control over religious institutions.

And so, to help unpack this Sunday soul searching, we share these national and local news links to contemplate . . .

Prez Trump Proclaims American Churches Are Essential

Trump declares churches 'essential,' calls on them to reopen

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Donald Trump on Friday labeled churches and other houses of worship as "essential" and called on governors nationwide to let them reopen this weekend even though some areas remain under coronavirus lockdown. The president threatened to "override" governors who defy him, but it was unclear what authority he has to do so.


Priest Pushes Back Against Prez Trump Commandment

Priest: Mr. President, we don't need to open churches to practice our faith

CNN religion commentator Father Edward Beck writes about President Donald Trump's order to reopen churches and places of worship. He's afraid reopening churches now might risk many lives rather than nourishing them.


Question Of Faith: White House Rules God's House???

Trump ordered states to open churches. Can he do that?

President Donald Trump is making a show of siding with religious groups in their clashes with state and local authorities - but his own Justice Department's actions are exposing the challenges involved in trying to bring the federal government's power to bear on the issue.


Church Provides No Sanctuary From Coronavirus

Church-Related Coronavirus Outbreaks Reported As Trump Pushes For Reopening

As President Donald Trump sides with churches that want to reopen faster than their state's safety guidelines will allow, new Covid-19 virus outbreaks associated with in-person religious services are being reported worldwide. Trump demanded Friday that states allow places of worship to reopen and even threatened to order them open himself if governors won't, though he doesn't have the authority under federal law.


Prez Trump Proudly Defends Church Reopen Rights

President Trump Sides With Churches Asserting A Right To Reopen

Houses of worship around the country on Friday got a presidential green light to open immediately. "I call on governors to allow our churches and places of worship to open right now," President Trump said in remarks at the White House. "These are places that hold our society together and keep our people united," he said.


Catholic Compromise Balances Faith & Reason

After Trump call to reopen churches, Catholic doctor says it can be done safely

by Michelle La Rosa Denver Newsroom, May 22, 2020 / 05:45 pm MT (CNA).- While President Donald Trump's May 22 call to reopen churches has become a source of national controversy, a group of Catholic doctors has offered a plan that could expedite that process. "I think that if we


Good Faith Judgement???

Trump Is Desperately Trying To Escalate The Culture Wars By Demanding Churches Open

President Donald Trump, deeming houses of worship "essential places that provide essential services," called Friday for governors to allow them to reopen immediately-regardless of whether he actually has the authority to impose such an order.


Prez Trump Remains 'Chosen One' Amongst Religious Right

Inside the Influential Evangelical Group Mobilizing to Reelect Trump

"The Covid virus has been a gift from God," began Ken Eldred. "The kingdom of God advances through a series of glorious victories, cleverly disguised as disasters." In response to the coronavirus pandemic, Eldred noted, millions of Americans are turning to Christ, Walmart is selling out of Bibles, and online church broadcasts have hit record numbers.


Local Troops Ordered To Stand Down For Memorial Day Mass

Lenexa cemetery cancels annual Memorial Day Mass for vets, large gatherings still deemed unsafe

LENEXA, Kan. - Even during a pandemic, some Memorial Day customs carry on. Metro families crowd into cemeteries this weekend, paying their respects while protecting themselves from coronavirus as they visit the graves of lost loved ones. However, directors at Resurrection Cemetery in Lenexa were forced to cancel the annual Memorial Day Mass, which dates back at least 20 years.


Kansas City Practices Gentle Communion Toss Whilst Some Priests Still Prefer The Tongue

Churches reopen with an emphasis on safety

by Joe Bollig joe.bollig@theleaven.org KANSAS CITY, Kan. - Months after all public Masses in the archdiocese were canceled on March 17, Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann announced last week that parishes were opening up - slowly and carefully. In a video message posted on the Archdiocese of Kansas City in Kansas website, Archbishop Naumann announced the resumption of public Masses beginning May 9.


You decide . . .

74 comments:

Anonymous said...

"Trump ordered states to open churches. Can he do that?"

Of course. After all, he's the Chosen One.

Anonymous said...

Politics aside, why is it I can see large numbers of people in Walmart and not any concern with large numbers of people there?

Anonymous said...

Judas Priest I seriously hope that 538 is doing some kind of satire and not truly walking around with that level of dumb.

Just in case he's serious with that question I'll ask that this numbnuts maybe consider what kinds of things are in a walmart that people might actually need compared with getting together to sing some godawful songs.

Anonymous said...

But 6:08...why is it safe to gather at Wal-Mart but not at a Church?

Anonymous said...

It should be obvious 5:38-6:25. There's a lot more space in most walmarts. You can keep some distance (and most people do that). It's not so easy in a church packed full of people.

Anonymous said...

Dear Lord, let them all get infected with COVID to test your powers. Thank you, God.

Anonymous said...

What Church does Trump attend?
Will he be going there weekly during this Pandemic?

Anonymous said...

No Free Will for anyone. Keep everything closed.

Anonymous said...

6:38...not true, apparently you are not familiar with the Raytown Wal-Mart...crowded isles, people hacking and coughing, shoving, etc. And Churches can practice social distancing. Admit it, you just want the Churches closed, permanently. (Reread the first amendment.)

Anonymous said...

I doubt 6:38 wants churches closed permanently. I suspect s/he is concerned that churchgoers will infect each other and others, perhaps even when they go to Walmart. WWJD?

Byron Funkhouser said...

Der Fuhrer can't order the churches open.

He can pander to the Evangelical Right.

He can close his eyes & earnestly talk to himself, thus pretending that he's "praying".

Two weeks from now we will know whether this was foolish or brave.

Anonymous said...

The Spanish Flu which killed millions has been traced to a religious meeting in Hays Kansas that soldiers attended and then they were shipped to Europe. In reality is was the White Christian Flu. Nearly every "hotspot" can be traced to practicing christians who have met recently.

I say let them meet congregate and infect each other, and when the dust clears fewer trump maggots to vote for him.

Anonymous said...

7:09, people get infected at Wal-Mart and go to other places. The Quik Trip on Stare Line was packeded yesterday. The Churches have plans for social distancing. I didn't see it enforced at Wal-Mart OR Quik Trip. Who ya Kiddlin?

Anonymous said...

I go to church all the time.

Church’s Chicken. 10 piece spicy, baked mac & cheese, okra, jalapeƱo bombers.

God bless each and every one of us.

Anonymous said...

7:33...FAKE NEWS provided by the Kansas City Atheist Coalition. In the meantime, the Covid is brought to you by the atheistic Chinese Communist party lies.

Anonymous said...

Retard, didn’t they teach you anything at Retard School?

Anonymous said...

733 time to dilate.

Anonymous said...

Trump isn't ordering states to allow churches to open. He is stating the obvious that the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights guarantees Americans the right to worship and the states need to start respecting that right.

And WWJD? One finds it hard to imagine that he would have preached that he is the Way, the Truth, and the Light but 75% of his apostles need to leave and the rest need to socially distance from each other.

Anonymous said...

Jesus byron you are such a brainwashed simpleton.

Let go of the hate.

Anonymous said...

Byron is full of hate because he is broke and his next welfare check is about 10 days away.

Anonymous said...

7:04 & 7:36: So are you off to church today?

Anonymous said...

The president who thought he really was the chosen one want stated all I need is a phone and a pen! Basically pissing on the rule of law and everybody else.

Anonymous said...

Churches are tightly packed with poor ventilation and, believe it or not, all the singing can spread the grippe around pretty good.

So, here's a good chance for them to all go be meet their maker!

Anonymous said...

Well, and we do have that whole constitutional right to peaceably assemble.

Anonymous said...

Is there one that's not in the ghetto?

Anonymous said...

Not if they use recorded songs and music.

Anonymous said...

There is one in Gladstone. It’s not ghetto yet but they’re working toward that.

Anonymous said...

7:04 & 7:36: ??? Crickets.

Anonymous said...

What would Super Dave say?

Dave where are you?

Come out, come out, where ever you are!

Anonymous said...

They're at Church. Are you at the Raytown Walmart yet?

Anonymous said...

He's dead.

Anonymous said...

After all, the Raytown Walmert is white trash central...although I guess it's a hike from your trailer park.

Anonymous said...

Ah, listen. The demoniacs have come out to denounce religion.
Not surprised.

Almighty God has anointed President Trump to lead our, so-called, religious leaders into the path of His righteousness.
He is the vessel of God, as was Cyrus the Great in the days of the Israelites.
May God continue to shower blessings upon him and show us the way, for another term as our President.

In anticipatory response to you demoniacs. Begone Satan!

Anonymous said...

It really doesn't make sense that Wal-Mart, Target, liquor stores, convenience stores etc can be open and not churches.

In the stores people are touching products that other people have handled, carts have been sneezed on, and the credit / debit machines are full of germs with people inputting their passwords with their fingers. The stores have customers coughing and sneezing in them 18 hours a day.

Closing churches is the left-wing, communist Democrat Party (and CNN) trying to end religion in the United States. Lenin, Stalin etc. closed churches as they realized people having faith in God was a threat to their tolatarian regimes.

By the way, I do not go to church but I support freedom of religion and believe in God and Jesus.

Anonymous said...

Apparently nobody has been in a menards, Lowe’s, Home Depot, target and QT have they, jammed full of people since day one of the shut down. Where’s the outrage?

Killa shitty has 991 cases of the wuhan flu, those numbers aren’t accurate because those numbers started the first week of March and they aren’t removing the recovered or deceased numbers. The reality is we probably only have around 300 active cases. As the old mayor funkhouser would say that’s “chump change”

Ive seen ghetto people hanging out in very large groups partying with adults and children, all day long. The ghetto (64130 is a prime example) is where the majority of the problems are.

Anonymous said...

"Almighty God has anointed President Trump to lead our, so-called, religious leaders into the path of His righteousness."

God is not that big of a screw-up.

Anonymous said...

Only a totally fake christian would take orders from the cynical, lying, opportunist, mammon idolater, sex pervert Trump.

Anonymous said...

9:46: It certainly is a hike, and I have to put some Rustoleum on my trailer since it's supposed to rain today.

Anonymous said...

Obviously if Jesus were President he would pit public religion against public health in a cynical play for more attention.

Anonymous said...

^ typhoid Mary white Christian making another excuse.

Anonymous said...

11:15 You lie. Why?

Anonymous said...

@9:55, @6:47 here, you post yourself here as an expert on both God and Donald Trump, can you answer my questions?

No agenda, just would like to know.

The answer is easy to find for all of the President's predecessors, but not for him.

Anonymous said...

Didn’t realize that there were so many anti-religious hate groups in kc. This blog, most lame stream media and pretty much all of the Democratic Party are proof of that.

Sorry T, I’m not pointing a finger at you but by the looks at the hate against religion here it’s pretty obvious.

Anonymous said...

^^^ people believe in rapey joe but not god....


Anonymous said...

The Kansas City Atheist Coalition is probably the Hate Group behind most of this.

Anonymous said...

Why you you come here expecting to find answers?

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of deceiving headlines. Trump didn't order churches to reopen. He ordered them to have the CHOICE to reopen. A lot of religious leaders agreed with him that they should have that choice. It's no wonder Independent voters like me can't trust the media to bring us unbiased information.

Anonymous said...

Dems want churches and schools closed because they double as polling stations. Mystery solved. You are welcome.

Anonymous said...

^^^No. That would be Republicans. They're into voter suppression. They want the churches open Sunday and closed on election Tuesdays. You're welcome.

Anonymous said...

Um, no. Try to keep up. Dems want mail-in voting because it's far easier to fake, and have been everywhere trying to advocate it in place of actual in person voting.

Anonymous said...

Yes @1:22, it’s the Repubs pushing mail in ballots in your alternate reality. I assume critical thinking is not your strong suit.

Anonymous said...

Actually, Republicans are objecting to mail-in and absentee voting in only two states--Michigan and Nevada, both of which have Democratic governors. It seems to be OK elsewhere as well as for him. He's voted absentee forever.

But you're welcome to your alternative facts.

Anonymous said...

People have common sense. You dont see Christians, Jews, Buddists, Muslims crossing streets without looking both ways for cars. They are smart enough to stay home from a place like a church until the virus is gone. If you have really faith in your salvation, and your religion, not going to church is not going to hurt you in any way. Use the phone to call other church members, watch sermons on TV. Really people its not complicated.

Anonymous said...

11:24, as opposed to sex perverts like Clinton and Biden?

Anonymous said...

"If you have really faith in your salvation, and your religion, not going to church is not going to hurt you in any way."

And yet there are snake handler churches and several evangelists and their followers have died from church-acquired COVID. Weird.

Anonymous said...

The Catholics cancelled their Mass for the dead? That means the dead has to stay in purgatory even longer, before they can get out and go to heaven. Every Mass brings them closer to salvation and heaven. Or does it? Could it be that purgatory doesnt exist, its fake, and its an old revenue generation tool from the 14th century? That means there is just Heaven or Hell. And since good works, infant baptism, rosary beads, Prayers to a long dead Mary, confessions to priests and endulgences cant get you into heaven, then Catholics go to hell. So why do Masses for them anyway? There is no purgatory - Jesus knew everything and he never mentioned it once. Not once. The Catholic church is a false religion of traditions and cultish beliefs. Catholics do not have a personal relationship with the Savior - so they are not saved. Mary is dust in her grave, she will arise on judgement day and be really pissed of that people prayed to her rather than her son. Catholics are distant and unhappy people - cause none have any guarentee of ever going to heaven. its all unknown.

Anonymous said...

ONE case of Mail-in Ballot Fraud detected in the 2018 Elections, NONE in the 2016 Elections.

The one instance of fraud involved a Republican Candidate for the US House from KY, whose Staff tried the pre-computer scam of fake names and copied ballots - easily detected, as all attempts been since the late 1970s.

Anonymous said...

>If you have really faith in your salvation, and your religion, not going to church is not going to hurt you in any way.

I guess if you have no actual knowledge of moral theology, the ten commandments, or sin a claim like that might make sense. If you knew anything about sacramental Christianity you might not even say anything so blindingly stupid as this.

Anonymous said...

Well of course that means it can't possibly happen then! Whew.

What's your other brain cell up to?

Anonymous said...

Sacramental Christianity? Really? People still believe in that hocus pocus stuff? The criminal on the cross next to Christ got saved. He wasnt in church. He probably never attended a church. He was never baptized, or took communion. A matter of fact his arms and legs were nailed to the cross and he was delirous in pain, nearing death. He probably had a long criminal record and even murdered people. But Christ said he would be with him that day in Heaven.

These traditions will not give you salvation : childhood baptism, communion, church attendance, tithing, teaching sunday school, rosary beds, confessions to a priest, prayers to Mary, Prayers to Saints, or indulgences. Only the imputation of Christ's grace will give you salvation. The other traditions on man will send you on a fast track to hell. Many people take communion and end up in hell because they never really became a christian.

Anonymous said...

Roman Catholics are not Christians. They feel Christ was a total failure, and can't save them from hell. So they must work their way to heaven. Mary was a success, so they pray to her rather than God. What a farce. Jesus was a failure? So you have to work your way to heaven? Really?

Anonymous said...

Really 5:00 p.m. Spoken by a true WASP or atheist. Guess you have never attended a Catholic wedding, reception or wake and shared merriment with Irish, Italians, Poles and Germans drinking and having a good time.

Anonymous said...

So how did the criminal on the Cross get to heaven that day, and actually be with Jesus, if he never was baptized or took communion? Looks like sacramental events do not confer saving grace. God saves who he desires. I know plenty of people who attend church that go thru the motions that are going straight to hell.

Anonymous said...

6:15 - hey I have been to many Catholic events. Booze and getting bombed is such a big deal. But didnt Christ list all the types of people that WILL NOT inherit heaven? Jesus said "those who are drunk with wine" will not see heaven. I didnt make it up - Jesus said it. Dont call him a liar by trying to refute it. If people have to drink during religious events then something is wrong. "Do not be drunk with wine": Jesus Christ.

Anonymous said...

The Catholic Council of Trent (Concilium Tridentinum) clearly states that Jesus is powerless to save you from hell. The Council of Trent states that if you believe Jesus alone can offer salvation, then you are anathema - (excommunicated). The Catholic Church has not resended this doctrine. You must carefully follow the outline of works to be done in order to have any chance of going to heaven someday. You will not know your true eternal fate until after you die. Remember, faith alone cannot save you. You must work your way to heaven. If you do a mortal sin, you must go back to square one and start all over. Even the Pope does not trust in Jesus alone to save him. He prays to Mary.

Anonymous said...

Well I lost all respect for the Catholics when I majored in history and learned that Popes gained their positions by murdering each other. Poison was common. Or knives were used. Sometimes bribery. What kind of religion is that?

Anonymous said...

^^^^ It's not very "Christian" to berate the religion of other people. Not very American either.

Anonymous said...

6:10-6:48: Thanks for the entertainment. While you're at it, could you tell us how many angels can fit on the head of a pin and exactly what date and time in 4004 BC was the world created and was that the Gregorian or Julian calendar and Eastern Standard Time (or was it Daylight Savings Time)?

Anonymous said...

7:33 hasn't paid too much attention to the Old Testament with that statement.

A whole lot of violent "disrespecting" of other beliefs taking place in that rather unpopular part of the bible.

Anonymous said...

Well its is ok to bash false religions. Jesus did it. Often. He told religious leaders straight to their face they were going to hell. Told the highest leaders they were from the devil and called them serpents. He even beat up the money changers in the temple and trashed their businesses. You not doing anyone a favor by ignoring or pretending something as deadly as a false religion is "ok" and they have the freedom to believe it under current USA laws. If you disagree - then pray now to Jesus and tell him that he was WRONG and you are RIGHT - that you disagree with his telling people they were on the wrong track. That USA laws allow people to follow any religion, not his religion. See what happens when you face him in the next few decades....

Anonymous said...

The biggest wars in history were religious wars.
Today- big congregations are losing tons of money and need people back to pray.
The preachers could get behind in their 2nd and third homes and lux cars as they practice being modest.

The old ladies need to tithe hard to leave inheritances to big mega churches and going to church and getting Covad will speed it up.

Guess the mega churches know what they are doing with getting people back.

Clever war mongers.

Anonymous said...

Not everyone was brainwashed from birth to worship invisible sky friends. It’s not anti religion, its pro rational thought.

Anonymous said...

622 how about neither of them did because it never happened?

MDSF said...

...the reason you can go to groc. and hdwr. stors is you're buying essentials for living....
the only thing you're buying at church is a Holy Load of Shit.