TKC EXCLUSIVE!!! KANSAS CITY SALES TAX INCREASE FIGHT!!! POLICE DEMAND PUBLIC SAFETY CASH INCLUSION AMID RUSHED FIRE DEPARTMENT MONEY FLEX!!!
Expect fireworks in today's council session as a plan to quickly devise a sales tax increase during a low turnout election has backfired.
To wit . . .
KANSAS CITY POLICE SUPPORTERS FUME OVER AN EMERGENCY FIRE DEPARTMENT SALES TAX INCREASE VOTE!!!
Our blog community was FIRST to break news of the sales tax scheme on Saturday and our news sent local consultants rushing to secure the cash with few questions. Yesterday the vote moved forward but not without some very serious questions.
It's correct, KCFD needs cash to reequip but the real debate is over allocations and a dearth of deets on how the money will be spent.
And so KCPD supporters get into the political mix.
Police are justified to feel excluded from this proposed sales tax increase given that their vehicles and tech are also in desperate need of repair.
There was an effort to push the sales tax increase vote into one combined effort but Council Lady Katheryn Shields claimed that state approval was necessary. That's incorrect but it was a good deflection.
Here's where things get even more interesting.
Behind the scenes Council Lady Teresa Loar has been consistent in her work to make sure police have adequate funding and her support of the cops has become more strident as KCMO homicide stats worsen.
Check the docket closely, in response to this move Council Lady Loar is also proposing a sales tax increase for police and Council will now be forced to vote on money for cops during a historic uptick in local murder.
Reminding Council of their obligation to fund police in the midst of a local murder spike is masterful power move. Moreover, public tolerance for more taxes is at an all time low and Council must now think about public safety from a holistic perspective rather than just proving their allegiance and earning Local 42 union support.
Translation . . .
Welcome to the new normal . . . Both taxpayers and politicos are starting to realize that this town doesn't have money to burn and funding KCFD ahead of KCPD no longer makes sense when resources are limited and during a horrific homicide surge that has spanned years.
And now let's get even more real . . .
IT'S POLICE VS. FIRE TODAY IN A COUNCIL MONEY FIGHT OVER A SALES TAX INCREASE THAT WAS MORE POLITICAL PLOY THAN EMERGENCY!!!
Thankfully, the decision still belongs to voters who have been overlooked up until this point . . .
And so we ask . . .
SHOULDN'T CITY HALL COMBINE CASH FOR POLICE AND FIRE INTO THE SAME PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX INCREASE???
Or maybe, just maybe . . . Today's fight over cash clearly demonstrates that this rushed election move intended to capitalize on a low turnout election hasn't been very well thought out.
Developing . . .
Should have put the last point first.
ReplyDeleteObviously they haven't planned this well. Time to go back to the drawing board and come up with a better proposal. Hopefully, that's where Quinton will lead the council.
^^^ Would hope so but things can get ugly when fighting about money. Everyone knows that passing any big tax in this environment is a tough sell.
DeleteThank frank white for that, and then recall frank white!
Deletehaha greedy police union vs greedy fire union fighting over what's left of the KCMO taxpayer carcass.
ReplyDeletethis oughta keep em busy for a while ....
-radish
Well what do you expect? If your brother got an increase in his allowance, shouldn't you? Also maybe this shows the insanity of free bus services? Right there you could get 8 million. Then there is the Bike Walk money you could get another 400 million. It looks to me like Quinton needs to reorder his priorities and make public safety number one not buses or bikes. But there will be big backlash if the pot holes aren't fixed too.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHA and the fighting over the scrapes has begun. I wondered when the PD was going to jump up and say hey that's not fair how come they get something and we don't? This is what happens when your tax dollars are used for everything but operating the city.
ReplyDelete^^Shut up retard. You don't live in the city so you're opinion is as worthless as you are!! Go away chump. Go fuck up your own city!!!
ReplyDelete^^^Keep 'em coming, Super Dave. Maybe you can get Chimpy to stroke out.
ReplyDeleteJust another example of the old "you have to make a decision about this very quickly, hopefully without fully considering it, because we don't want to miss the deadline for putting it on the ballot" ploy.
ReplyDeleteWhich is the tactic pretty much EVERY TIME with both the KCMO and Jackson County electeds.
They never learn and mostly fold to whoever's demands.
With sales tax rates as high as 12% in parts of the city, you'd think the issues of raising revenue and budgeting would be strategic issues that need much more information, study, and debate.
And, of course, you'd be wrong.
Momentum!
Stop posting stupor dave. Raise the IQ level of this blog.
ReplyDeleteBest line, support for tax increases is at a new low.
ReplyDeleteby way of example in Joco, Shawnee City Council arrogantly blew $350k just preparing plans for a $54 million community center, NEXT TO A NEW GREASE TRAP FACTORY.
It was even deceptively billed, by Mayor Distler and her leftist liberals (she just quit the Republican Party)--as a $38 million plan. Left off the interest. And failed to mention, after it was built, the property tax increase had no sunset! the mail-in ballot drew 46% turnout, (think Presidential level) AND FAILED 72% TO 28%.
Mayor Michelle Distler even allowed the council to SCOLD AND DEMEAN the no voters as having lied, and been deceived. Which is not true.
My prediction? No matter if it's just fire or a combo, it's a bait and switch for free busses to justify the free trolley. The KCMO sales tax will FAIL. As it should.
Voters are woke. Voters are broke.
one thing I should add is it is unfair for Tony to attack the Star here, they have covered this story, and yesterday or maybe tuesday's long lead editorial had a ton in it and urged against this newest fire union shakedown. -radish
ReplyDeleteYou gotta keep up buddy, that was yesterday. We've been talking about this since last Saturday. The ordinance wasn't filed until Friday. And if it's behind a paywall. NOBODY reads it.
DeleteEat a dick, faggot!
DeleteHow about we don't vote for ANY SALES TAX INCREASE?
ReplyDeleteSounds good to me.
^^^^ +.25%
Delete9:25 you poor baby! You always say the same thing and always prove by doing so you don't know Dave or anyone for that matter at all. Just for the record if you hadn't fucked up KC so bad other people wouldn't be pointing out how you are. So people like you who live in Kansas City and are "Fucking Up Your Own City" might want to listen to some advice and constructive criticism once in a while. It's very clear you who live in Kansas City don't use constructive thinking when you go to vote if you even bother to. BTW the streets where I live are cleaned off and treated all over town. No potholes anywhere as they get fixed within hours of the PD reporting them. Nobody has been murdered on our area in hell maybe 100 years or so. Oh by BTW we have a first class fire department and EMS coverage here within a few minutes of placing a call. So no thanks on your offer to fuck up where I live like you have Kansas City and I doubt Dave will either.
ReplyDeleteYour parents ripped off and fucked over KC then fled to the exurbs 50 years ago just so you could feel superior when you drive onto town to buy drugs from gangsters.
DeleteActually, dave is one of the few people on this blog who make sense. We need to use taxes to fund both police and fire not to give away to companies to help them build their office towers.
ReplyDeleteIn Response to : KCFD DEMONSTRATES NEED.
ReplyDeleteThis is the new typical behavior of public officials at every level. I think it must be in the APWA handbook (American Public Works Association based in Crown Center) for getting citizens to raise tax revenues. You let something fall apart say a busy Road, a busy Bridge, a Fire Station, a Police Station (aka Public Safety Center for only $77 million), a Court House, a Zoo, an Animal Control Building, a Public Pool, a new Airport, a Stadium or two and then when it gets real bad you say "we need more tax money for only 30 years". I can tell you that Lenexa has probably gotten an award from the APWA for their proficiency in using this model, now KCMO is using it too. I will never again be suckered into voting for a sales tax to support something that should have previously been maintained properly in the city budget and urge KCMO residents to reject this mentality.
Lucas is already one of the worst mayors I can imagine. The lezbo he ran against would have been way better even though she was absolutely terrible too. God damn this city is hemorrhaging money and it's slowly becoming apparent to even the dumb people that all the vanity projects added nothing to our city and we're going to be worse off because of these tax bills. good luck fire department, you aren't getting shit.
ReplyDeleteBlame city council, not the voters
ReplyDeleteDemocrat greedy Firefighter Union slobs want memory foam King size beds to snooze on while scamming overtime $$.
BREAKING!!! INVESTIGATIVE!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMayor Lucas reiterated his strong support for KCMO taxpayers today, and pledged to continue his pattern of:
1) Refusing to vote "No" on Council/Mayor salary increases.
Following the last (July 2019) vote, Mayor Lucas now makes $141,455 "anally", nearly a 15% pay increase.
Council members make $70,718, also a 15% increase, for a part-time job.
Council members Shields and Loar (discussed above) voted to increase their own pay.
2) Commitment to KC neighborhoods, by renting an apartment in a City-owned building which pays no property taxes.
3) Working to increase the tax burden on KCMO residents, especially the working-poor, through sales tax hikes.
4) Continuing his predecessors pattern of catering to wealthy non-resident developers in granting over-the-top tax breaks, and pursuing frivolous vanity projects in exchange for campaign contributions.
5) Publicly opining on news events which have no bearing or relation to KCMO activity.
Actually dave is one of the dumbest posters on this blog. He should be banned from it as he doesn't even live here. He's a joke.
ReplyDeleteNO MORE TAXES!!!!
ReplyDeleteYou council folks best learn to live within your budget like the rest of is and then we will periodically give you an increase like the rest of us get BUT NO MORE TAXES!! Spend that go-bond money that was stupidly voted to give you and then YOU LIED!!!
NO MORE TAXES!!!
The Missouri statute (Chapter 84) that creates the KC Board of Police Commissioners includes a complicated formula (84.730) that sets the City's annual maximum obligation to fund the Commission In recent years, the City (especially under Troy) has consistently failed to provide the funding required by the statute. If the City simply met its existing statutory funding requirements, no additional funding would be required. Any City ordinance that is in conflict with the annual Chapter 84 funding requirement is void.
ReplyDeleteProve that you do 10:26 or you should be banned as well then. Sounds fair right?
ReplyDeleteNope, not going to vote for any further tax extensions, new or otherwise. Until I see some sanity in how our tax dollars are being spent count me a big NO everytime. Hear that Fire Department and your overtime costs?
ReplyDelete^^Ha! You really think your vote means anything plebe? This vote passes and passes easily!! See you at the victory party. Rube.
ReplyDeletePat Gray is dead. So is Steve Glorioso. they used to run these campaigns. Jeff Roe is not nearly as effective, (remember he screwed up Iowa for Ted Cruz, by lying...) So campaign mgmt. to push this turd over the threshold is weak.
ReplyDeleteWell, the fire dept is gonna need this tax to pass because they just crashed on of their brand new pumpers at Truman and bennington around 11:15, took out utility pole as well.
ReplyDeletePd has all new buildings and vehicles, they only want more money for raises, that’s it, if they want more money they should go to their bosses (state of Missouri) and get it. Let’s see how fast a big fat no comes out of their mouths!
ReplyDelete12:41 in a low turnout election though won't the FD their families and friends be maybe enough to push it through?? -radish
ReplyDeleteHey radish, shut the fuck up faggot!
DeleteDoes anyone else here wish Greedo and Radish would both just fall over dead? Those dumb faggots do nothing but whine all day. Do us a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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ReplyDeleteKansas City has cried WOLF too many times the first thing they need to do is get rid of these fat pig women who don't know what they are doing. If KC wants more money they need to cough it up their selves tax payers are sick of it and sick of letting black thugs out on the streets again. VOTE NO
At least in KC you can vote for or against a tax. In joco, the party appartchik do not allow votes on taxation.
ReplyDeleteThat's funny Greego I saw it on Friday's KMBC newscast. So fuck Tony's ego and fuck you for stroking it. All you guys know how to do is lie.
ReplyDeleteGreego! I kinda like it.
2:06 PM And now their kids are ripping off KC and will flee to the exurbs at some point. Probably sooner rather then later.
ReplyDeleteJackson County names deputy director of Assessment Department
ReplyDeleteFrank White, Jr. said he believes Monaghan will be a "valuable assest to Jackson County"
"During the 2019 reassessment, I witnessed her understanding of the process, passion for the law and commitment to do what’s right"
Oh boy here we go again
Jackson County also just released it's 2020 "budget". With the checks rolling in they certainly didn't waste any time.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if it includes property tax refunds and lawsuit liabilities along with all the raises and bonuses.
Fuck KCPD. We should fucking stop funding them altogether. Lets go with a County police force only. KCPD hasnt been anle to earn its stripes. Good for nothing...sons of bitches!
ReplyDeleteKCPD already got its windfall from the renewal of the public safety sales tax in 2010. And we see how poorly those funds were used to evict homeowners out of homes they owned for more than 50 years... never in the history of the police department have they ever, nor would they even consider, taking people out of their homes to provide basic tools needed for crime fighting - but they absolutely did that with East Patrol. I will never, ever, ever support a sales tax increase for KCPD. I don't care how many die on these streets or whether they have the tools they need. It will never, in my mind, justify a tax increase... None. Of. It. Save the sad story for somebody who cares. ALWAYS WILL BE A RESOUNDING FUCK NO!
ReplyDelete^^^ May not agree with all that but we're can agree on voting NO on all of these taxes!
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