CRAIG GLAZER TALKS 18TH & VINE!!!



TKC Note: This evening Kansas City club owner and media personality Craig Glazer offers his insight into the many challenges facing the heavily taxpayer subsidized 18th and Vine District.

Check it:

18th and Vine: Ghost Town

I'm gonna be standing on the corner
12th Street and Vine
I'm gonna be standing on the corner
12th Street and Vine
With my Kansas City baby
And a bottle of Kansas City wine’ ‘Kansas City’ – Fats Domino

Just over a decade ago, Kansas City decided to refurbish a historic area in the urban core. The area is called 18th and Vine. Voices from the past will tell you that big-time jazz was born in Kansas City right on that street. Yes sir, the biggest names in jazz honed their craft in nightclubs dotted throughout that area. I mean, after all, who hasn’t heard of Charlie Parker. The mayor at the time, Emmanuel Cleaver, was able to lasso that statue of Charlie Parker’s segmented head to decorate the area. There is just one little problem. The rest of the nation thinks jazz was born in New Orleans, Chicago and New York. Outside of Kansas City almost nobody thinks of our city as the home of jazz in any way. Maybe that explains why nobody goes to 18th and Vine. Possibly the only really famous place around there is Arthur Bryant’s. Thanks to the National Football League station breaks which mention the famous Kansas City Barbecue including names like Gates, Arthur Bryant’s and Oklahoma Joe’s our barbecue is finally receiving some attention. Maybe they should have commemorated 18th and Vine as the center for Kansas City Barbecue.

The bottom line is this; more than three hundred million has been spent on that area. It is a total and complete, unadulterated failure. Nothing has gotten close to being a success. Yes, that includes the Negro League Hall of Fame and Museum. Let me say this, I was very close with ‘Buck’ O’Neil. He was not only a fine gentleman and a true community leader but our friendship led to him writing one of the most meaningful and powerful letters to the court which led to my freedom in my 2001 Federal indictment. His ghost will always walk the halls of the Negro League Museum. Unfortunately, it won’t be bumping into too many attendees unless it’s a special event like the recent launching of the movie ‘42’. I’ve attended several special events there which always include local celebrities and former baseball greats. Like most Americans the only Negro Leagues stars they have heard of are Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Jackie Robinson and more recently ‘Buck’ O’Neil.

If it weren’t for special events, a few school outings and the tiny shop which sells memorabilia there, I would have no idea how this miniscule museum, which one can walk through in about seven minutes, could support itself. Don’t even get me started on the Jazz Museum. Last time I was there it seemed that roughly half the so-called attractions were broken. Notice there are almost no promotions there because it seems like no one goes there or even cares.

The other two big build outs were the Gem Theater and the Peachtree Restaurant. The Peachtree was by far the nicest thing built on 18th and Vine. I attended Jason Whitlock’s book-signing party there along with other local notables like Bill Self. A year later, the Peachtree went bankrupt and closed. The Gem is a small high-school/junior college type theater and that’s pretty much all it’s used for is small local and community events. In other words, it’s a total failure. The rest of the Jazz District is made up of offices and empty buildings that haven’t been touched.


About ten years ago, Westport property owner Bill Nigro and I were called to a meeting in the Jazz District. Nigro and I proposed building a barbecue/chicken restaurant and comedy theater aimed at an upscale urban core. We met with the district’s area supervisor; he was an African-American in his fifties from Oakland, California. He knew nothing of any businesses in Kansas City, less about the history of the District or any of it’s objectives and from my few visits seemed to spend most of his days in his office with his feet up on the desk reading magazines. Worthless. He gave the impression that he could not have cared less about leasing anything to anyone. There was supposed to be some federal funding available to improve the District. That turned out not to be the case. The three hundred million was gone, only a small fraction had been used to build anything. Nothing new that matters has opened since that time.

Once again, the taxpayers were misled and mistreated. Where did the money go? Nigro and I have done a lot of building in that area. We both felt that less than a third of the money was spent on remodeling the District or building anything. Why has there not been an investigation into this huge amount of tax-payer dollars that have simply disappeared for an area that has really never built much of anything.

Next we need to look at the other Kansas City, Missouri failures costing well over one billion dollars which include the River Market/City Market, Union Station, Power and Light, the renovation of Kemper, and likely Sprint Arena as well. Let me say this loudly, none of these has been successful or huge money-makers. We are told Sprint is successful. I question that. There are less major concerts each year, there is not now, nor will there ever be a pro sports team there. It’s poorly constructed and is already showing signs of wear.

The two billion dollars that have been mostly lost on the above project could have been spent on our areas which have been more successful such as The Plaza; Westport now that it has shaken it’s crime problem, Brookside and Waldo. Can you imagine how cool Plaza/Westport would be if they were modernized, connected and upgraded with new sidewalks, streets and shops? The Plaza Shopping and Entertainment area would be the Beverly Hills of Kansas City while Westport would be a new and improved Westwood. The new stadium should have been built on or near the Plaza because that’s where the people are and that’s where the money is. Then you would have your NBA franchise and possibly an NHL Hockey team.

Understand this, downtown KC did need a clean-up. However, unless you were ready to spend twenty or thirty billion dollars, a clean-up was all you could manage to do. What we did waste, or perhaps was outright stolen, could have strengthened our already solid business districts mentioned above. As it is, almost nothing was accomplished. Downtown is a drab, gray unattractive place to spend a day or night of your life in. The proof is in the pudding, no one has moved down there in the last ten years and now they are renting the condos they couldn ‘t sell. Once again, I ask, where did all this money go? Certainly far less than half was ever used for construction or remodeling. Is anyone ever going to look into this? I doubt it, our leadership is more interested in raising our city and state taxes to raise money for equally intelligent improvements.

Follow me on Twitter @KCKingofSting.

P.S. The Plaza is very nice now, just needs more energy and more things for younger upper middle class folks to enjoy.
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Comments

  1. 18th and Vine is KC's sacred cow. No questions are allowed.

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  2. ........GLAZEAMAZING..........!!!!!!!!

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  3. Glazer, that's the best thing you've ever written. You forgot to add that the fear of being robbed or murdered in that area also keeps good people out of there. Fuck 18th and Vine.

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  4. Love it baby!! Awesome insight. Keep em coming Craig. Had no idea that district was struggling so badly. Wow,quite an eye opener..

    Larry, harrisonville mo

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  6. One of these days the question needs tobe asked when it comes to the NLBM. Would it be better served for the place if it moved to Atlanta, Washington DC or B Ham Alabama.

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  7. Hey very nice blog!

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  8. No one wants the Plaza connected to the madhouse insane asylum known as Westport.

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  9. I'm familiar with some of the construction at 18th & Vine. You talk about a scam of scams. The same time this was started, Cleaver's church on Paseo had a nice, new building addition. If you're looking for lost money, I would start there. The "Jazz District" (what a joke) is the epitamy of a black person scamming money from white business and taxpayers at the threat of being labeled a racist for not supporting the "community." NOBODY thought this place would succeed. You really think somebody from Overland Park is going to be in this area at 1 AM partying? Hell no. Now Cleaver is Congress stealing at the national level. At least Pendergast, with all his corruption, got stuff done that people wanted and made the city better. Downtown, 12th street, thrived. Was it a little seedy? Yep, most exciting cities are. Now the legacy we get from Cleaver is an empty Jazz District and a street named after him that runs through the murder zip code and shitty points East.

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  10. Glazer sucks worse than Yael as a writer.

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  11. Couldn't get past the first bit. Charlie Parker didn't hone his craft in KC. Like everybody else, he may have caught the jazz bug in KC but he did everything that made him a great in NYC and California. But you know nothing of jazz history. Dizzy? Miles Davis? The whole BeBop movement?

    Stick to what you know. If you did you wouldn't mistake history for local hype. Just like you mistake Quentin Tarantino movies as history.

    In fact, if you stuck to what you know, we would hear much less out of you because the few things you know, you have already repeated several times.

    Really get a clue. If you want to get your history from a movie, watch Bird directed by Clint Eastwood. Eastwood loves the music and made about as true of a bio that a movie can.

    You also don't know shit about baseball and comment on the Royals like you haven't watched a single game all season, just look box score, which you obviously really don't understand.

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  12. Please join my boycott of the Tony Kansas City until he agrees to never put any more Glazer crap on his website.

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  13. Sounds good, count me in.

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  14. As usual, great article Craig.

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  15. The Blue Room. No food. No smoking. LOUSY jazz bar. Close it now.

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  16. The Beverly Hills of Kansas City? What a joke. Just like the condos that are going in at Woodside, "your club" the one that had TV adverts and lets people pay by the day to perv at the pool? What happened to that after your breathless report on KCC?

    People can just google all of this stuff. Is about 10 years and 14 years the same thing? You could have googled yourself and at least gotten the dates of your own actions right.

    So can you tell me exactly what you Nigro put into 18th and Vine other than talk? A chicken, bbq and Def comedy jam club is just about as stupid as an idea I can think of. It might work in a large enough market like Chicago (but they have already cornered their area of comedy) or LA (you don't have near the money, ditto for Atlanta, LA or Oakland).

    Blacks in KC either move to the burbs or out of town if they have the means. You don't have the target market in KC you say you were looking for. Any dolt can see this.

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  17. Waaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooo long Craig.

    You might have a good point but you lost me into the 6th paragrah.

    This is the internet Craig, nobody has time for an essay. Forget the prose and get to the point.

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  18. Waaaaaaaaaaay tooooooooo long Craig.

    You might have a good point but you lost me into the 6th paragrah.

    This is the internet Craig, nobody has time for an essay. Forget the prose and get to the point.

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  19. Glazer is the smegma under the foreskin of KC.

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  20. Another wonderful example from Craig about why you should think twice about having kids. Do you really wanna be responsible for procreating the next douchebag like Craig? Hell no! Condoms, birth control pills, IUD's, Nuva Ring, Plan B and abortion if necessary. Let's make sure that the Glazersaurus heads to extinction.

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  21. Glazes best yet.

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  22. I forgot were you famous for being the spokesman for Summer's Eve or Massengill?

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  23. "A year later, the Peachtree went bankrupt and closed"

    hmmmm..kinda like the once-great Wishbone Restaurant back in the 80s

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  24. Glazer, this is really good.

    Really.

    Dead on the money.

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  25. 18th and Vine is a colossal disappointment. Cleaver is a colossal disappointment. Kansas City is a colossal disappointment. This is all that needs to be said.

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  26. If you have to explain to someone you're famous, then you're technically not that famous.

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  27. IF I cared, I'd draw you a map of your ass with an X marking the spot where your head is buried.

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  28. I hate it when people accuse Craig of planting positive comments about his own articles under another name. That's really not fair. Shame on you, people.

    Sincerely,

    Larry in Harrisonville; Pete Puffington at the Plaza (aka Pete Puffington in Leawood); Jim Norton, Esq.; Bart in Lawrence; David F.; Frank in Merriam; L.A. Little; Mark Kroyle; Hank in Mission Hills; Darren “in the media”; Carlos in Flagstaff; Peter in Lee’s Summit; Another Midtown Mom; Chet in Riis Lake; Steve Kramer; Steve Ashner; Larry Kressler (aka Larry Kessler); Bob in Grain Valley; Hank in Smithville; Merrill Maza; Ramone in Lake Annette; Julie in Blue Springs; Jeff Spero; Ron Wheeler; Aaron B.; David DeDon; James in Midtown; Paul Wilson; John Elbert; “Sheets”; M. Dixon; Jessie & Jennifer; Djengo; Team Craig; Joel Weinberg; David Freeland; Davie Rice; Mister Mister; Steve K.; Mark K.; Captain Jack; Jeff Taubin; Wayne Boyd; Alpinista; Spyke1; Tim B.; JdX; Mr. D; Emi; KC Shawn; Matt in Kansas City; KC Stephanie; Paul in Overland Park; Stan in Shawnee; Downtown Liz; Craig in Mission; Dean Boese; Kajay the XXX Ex; Wanda Play; and Buffie.

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  29. LMFAO 10:16!

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  30. What do you think happened to the money? Same thing that happened to the 15K to get Moneyweather to not show. It disappeared into the pockets of the gubment titty suckin' leeches to pad their cushy retirement accounts. That escalade cadillac and vacation house on the lake sho as hell ain't gonna build itself from nutin'!

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  31. Congrats glaze, even though I have hated your guts for years, and over-paid when I bought an e-version of your very half-assed fiction "KOS" for $0.99, I admit that this time you presented something that was surprisingly professional.

    You had a good idea when you had this piece edited by a writer with true skill. There is nothing unethical or untoward when you employ a professional editor to process your drafts, and I encourage you to keep paying whomever it is you paid this time.

    In ok general, I guess you deserve some credit for publicly demonstrating your ineptitude in your previous posts; I for one couldn't do so without incurring red-faced embarrassment. I suspect your ridiculously high opinion of yourself gives you a "I don't give a fuck what anyone so far beneath me thinks of my poor writing" point of view.... As an analogy, think of how you don't care when an old, flea-infested mongrel stumbles into your room as you shoot a load out your shriveled, tiny, flacid tool you call a dick into one of your regular, elderly male whores.

    Keep up the good work and perhaps twenty years from now, those of us who are actually educated won't laugh out loud when you try to self-ordain yourself "Scribe" again.


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  32. chuck is trying to replace hardly as glazers nut sack washer.

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  33. @8:47 Woodside told Craig to STFU they don't want him yapping about their place. They was afraid people might think freaks like him really belong there.

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  34. Glazer you are wrong the Jazz District has brought much attention to Kansas City. Its mentioned all the time in the news. Well worth the three hundred million we spent on the area.

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  35. Who the hell is the person that listed all those names? What a lunatic. Talk about no life.

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  36. One of them on the list, John Elbert, is dead. He was a long time friend and band mate of one of the glaze's brothers, up until the day glaze's bro stole hundreds of dollars of Elbert's marijuana. Elbert died hating all the glazes.

    One hundred percent true story. Elbert complained about the ripoff to everyone who knew both Elbert and the glaze bro, including me.

    The Glaze bro worshipped at the altar of his brother the glaze. Glaze taught his bro well; even old friends were chumps to be stolen from. I wouldn't trust the whole route of them with my dirty diarrhea underwear if I was down to my last charged-up pair.


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  37. 2:07

    Look, if the fuckin Ayatollah Khomeini would have written the article, it still would be a good article.

    It is what it is.

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  38. Nope, when it's "Glazer", it's scroll time....right on through it.

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  39. Obvious question for Glazer. If the Jazz District was a bad idea and doomed from the get-go, then why did you and Nigro want to build a restaurant/club there?

    Are you really pissed at the government money allegedly wasted there, or simply pissed that you and Nigro didn't get a cut of it?

    Also, the reason KC doesn't have an NHL or NBA franchise has nothing to do with the location of the Sprint Center, and everything to do with economics.

    KC already has the Chiefs, Royals and Sporting. It is simply not big enough with enough disposable income to support a fourth major league franchise.

    And the NBA and NHL discovered that the hard way years ago.

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  40. So not only is CG an expert on: Testosterone, killing his friends, sending people to jail to save his ass, paying young chicks to screw him, living hair rugs, now building inspector? Sprint center showing wear??? Where the fuck do pull this out of. I do know what your are not an expert on. And that is decorating a comedy club!

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  41. Glazer been to your club at Legends, nicest I've ever seen. These haters work overtime to try and keep up with you huh. Must be a couple happy folks.

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  42. Sure would be wonderful if comments were about this story. It's an important story in many ways. Where did that money go? I'd like to know.

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  43. The Real Harley4/25/13, 7:42 AM

    Readers this is two guys Smartman and Super Dave. Both professional Glazer haters. They make stuff up on an hourly bases cause Glazer shot them both down a billion times on KCC and here. That's all. WE'll deal with them. Two really bad people. Sorry for their lies.

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  44. move the jazz museum and the Negro League baseball museum downtown and be done with the rest of that place. They could probably do okay if they were next to the arena or the entertainment district and cut your losses and let the rest of the district fail as it already is doing.

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  45. Glazer you are a blessing sir. Best thing that happened to the websites, this and KCC. Funny, interesting and the comments are off the chart.

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  46. Agree with your points. Glazer wins!

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  47. I've been to the area twice. Lame. 300 million? You'd have to spend 30 million first.

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  48. Glazer (and others with his caveman mentality) is part of the reason this city is so fucked up. So he can write about this mess with some expertise.

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  49. Damn Craig, you must have done a lot of folks dirty over the years. And I don't think they forgot.

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  50. It would be nice if Glazer could get the simplest facts straight.

    Like, for instance, the fact that the Peachtree operated for SIX YEARS, not one year, in the Jazz District before moving to the P&L District and the Lee's Summit shopping center.

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  51. Chuck aka Stan is Craigs dad. He is not taking over Harleys spot. Turd doesnt fall far from the hoe.

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  52. Who the hell is the person that listed all those names? What a lunatic. Talk about no life.

    4/25/13, 3:41 AM

    * * * * * * *

    You posted to this blog at 3:41 in the morning, and you're calling 10:16 a lunatic with no life? Now, THAT is funny.

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  53. Chuck you turned into Stan, funny. Anyone who likes Glazer must be Glazer. I don't think so.

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  54. People Tony has Glazer writing on this site because the guy is damn sharp. This story is proof of that issue. Well written and on target. Instead of hating on this person, consider the issue. We got ripped off on most all these projects. They are all losers. We paid for them. Simple as that. His observations make him of value. That's why he is writing here and YOU are not.

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  55. So tell me, since Glazer is so damned sharp, what exactly did this latest screed of his tell you that you didn't know years ago?

    Go back and read his Royals post as well. Geez, he didn't even know how to spell Hal McRae's name.

    And I sure hope you didn't take this sharp guy's gambling advice on the Super Bowl or the KU-K-State basketball game.

    Or listen to his history lesson based on a movie.

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  56. Said it before and I'll say it again.
    .................GLAZEAMAZING...............
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  57. 10:16: I gotta admit i got a
    laugh from your post! But the
    question is why wouldanyone go
    back and collect the names of all
    those people from glazers
    posts.
    Obviously you have nothing better
    to do.
    As far as glazers critics lets
    do one thing...if youdon't likethe
    guy don't read his stuff and don't
    comment.
    Real simple. It gives you guys
    heart attackswhatever he writes.
    He could qoute thebible and you
    people would attackhim.
    And its getting old. Once it was
    funny...but unless you're like
    10:16 with some funny stuff don't
    waste your or our time.
    Maybe get a hobby. Seriously...
    its getting old.
    And besides that you got better
    things to do...well maybe you do.
    go outside...its beautiful and
    get some fresh air.
    It will calm you down after reading
    glazers comments.
    stop the b.s....unless you got some
    funny stuff.
    thanks.
    Harley

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    1. Kuddos, couldn't agree more. I thought it was an entertaining, accurate read. Your comment is right on point as well.

      Ed, kearny mo

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  58. Nah, Harley. It's great sport to read Glazer's idiotic stuff, then watch you place your lips on his posterior in worshiping admiration.

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  59. Methinks before Harley was a Hoover salesman before he became a shyster. It takes practice to be that good at sucking up.

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  60. Isn't it sad that of all the people Harley could suck up to, he chooses Glazer?

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  61. Really? Glazer, like it or not, is about as cool a guy this town has or has had. Girls, built(especially for what 50 something), insane cars,Hollywood lifestyle and a local media star. Sorry just the facts Jack. Hey I even like the guy. He's a funny Mo-Fo on Dare.

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  62. I agree with the posters who said to move the stuff still standing downtown. The people who are willing to spend money aren't going to go anywhere near the white chalk outlines that blot out that whole stupid 18th and Vine district.

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  63. Well, the aforementioned Peachtree moved from the Jazz District after six years downtown to the P&L District. How well did that work out?

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  64. Good one. Closed. Glaze said closed after he attended an event there, not in one year. Hey these hater bugs love to ride Glazer. It is funny. At Glazer's expense. Sorry Craig. Know what, in a way Glazer its flattering. Who in the hell would look up all those names that guy printed on fake comments. That my dear soul is a fan. You should mail him an autographed book, that guy loves your ass!

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  65. Well, this will come as a shock to you, 3:27, so I hope you are sitting down, but Jason Whitlock wrote his book four years before the Peachtree in the Jazz District moved to the P&L.

    So now you are going to tell me that Whitlock waited three years to have a book-signing party and Glazer is right all along?

    Face it. Glazer babbles off the top of his addled head and can't keep even the simplest details straight.

    That happens to all liars.

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  66. My sick friend. WHO CARES. It closed. It was a loser. Glazer is right, doesn't matter if it was one year or three. LOSER. And it failed at the P &L. It was an extremely small part of the story anyways. His point was 18th and nowhere was a loser from jump street. We had our money stolen. He's right. You are an idot.

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  67. Did you also read the part of the story where Glazer and his buddy Nigro wanted to invest in this "loser from jump street" and open a restaurant and club there?

    At least that's what he claims, and we all know how many grains of salt we have to take his claims with.

    So once again, if this was such a bad idea, why did he and Nigro want to pour money into it?

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  68. Also, not being able to tell the difference between one year, and the six years it took for Peachtree to file for bankruptcy after the Whitlock book was published is but one of the many errors in fact, and in logic of this woeful piece.

    I personally got a big guffaw out of the notion that the Sprint Center should have been built "on or near the Plaza" and that KC would have an NBA team and quite possibly an NHL team as well.

    I also laughed like a horse over the idea that "nobody has moved downtown for 10 years" so they are now renting condos. To whom? To people who aren't moving downtown?

    That's the way it goes with people who babble off the top of their heads and have no idea what they are babbling about.

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  69. Now that im on the south end of sixty I really do not think I will ever be famous. Woes me.

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  70. Smartman, Glazer and Nigro were only going to a meeting I believe, thinking there were funds available to them to build with. They likley didn't know the area was a bust yet, nobody knew that the area was done building. A black comedy club and restaurant make sense in a black area. Simple.

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  71. Smartman, you are a nobody. Glazer is a star. You are not even a real name. Why do you lie on the guy? Cause he kicked your ass? Yes.

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  72. Glazer has never handed anyone their ass in his life, not here at KCC or anywhere else. Now he may have had to hand his own ass over in jail more than a few times. You people who think he is such a bad ass are some real stupid asshole losers.

    Glazer will never admit it but I saw him get his plowed clean one night in the upper rear parking lot behind Katz on Metcalf.

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  73. Sorry to inform you of this, but Glazer said this fateful meeting between him, Nigro and the JDRC guy happened "about 10 years ago."

    The Jazz District opened in 1997.

    Now apparently, if we are to take his word for it (a dangerous thing), Glazer and Nigro watched the area for six full years before proposing their chicken/bbq/comedy club (what? no watermelon?) aimed "at an upscale urban core."

    Glazer can also stop looking for that $300 million in federal funds. It existed only in his head, which is probably why he and Nigro feined interest in the area.

    The Jazz District was financed, in part, by $30 million from the city, which was paid for by a sales tax approved by voters for that purpose during the Cleaver Administration.

    In fact, it was called "The Cleaver Plan."

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  74. You saying we only lost 30 million? I read it was closer to 300 million wasted. If Glazer is so much full of it, than why doesn't anyone who 'matters' challenge some of his more important articles. I know many media people read them. Its my belief that his statements of fact or opinion are usually correct. Or close.

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