Completely unreported by Kansas City mainstream media . . . A recent move by the Kansas City police board has sent sirens off among a great many of KCPD's rank and file.
A RECENT RETROACTIVE PAY RAISE FOR KCPD CHIEF FORTÉ EVOKES HARSH FEELINGS FROM SOME MEMBERS OF THE RANK AND FILE!!!
We don't want to offend anybody with rough language but this bit of testimony is important to show the harsh feelings stirred up over this move:
"The entire rank and file of KCPD just got a huge shit taken on them. How (Chief) Forte could accept a raise after his guys and gals have had to do without pay steps (not even raises, pay steps promised upon being hired) is nothing short of evil. Just thought you'd want to know."
Proof and details of the move are in recent minutes of a Police Board meeting:
"3) Following a motion by Commissioner Wasson-Hunt and a second by Major James, the Board voted to raise Chief Darryl Forté’s salary to $163,000 retroactive to his 6 month anniversary in the position of Chief of Police, with another review in May, 2013. The vote was 5-0 in favor"
This retroactive pay bump is a big deal coming off the heels of an insurance flap between KCPD and the City Hall wherein Chief Forté was in favor of a move that many believed was tantamount to a benefit cut.
Additionally, KCPD Insiders and KC Political Insiders have told us that morale within the department is exceptionally low right now.
For quite some time TKC has advocated that better pay and benefits for the KCPD would be a much wiser investment in Kansas City than a silly Downtown "Toy Train" Streetcar. Still, management taking pay raises above workers is never a good look.
As the Summer goes on The Chief faces increasing challenges that now seem even more complicated given the frustrations of a great many members of his rank and file.
DEVELOPING . . .
KC is running out of money.
ReplyDeleteIt won't be in the news, but he'll get alot more money once the new East Patrol is built as he and Rev. Miles have worked their under the table deals to sell all of the land that they own for the new site and are waiting to collect more from the city.
ReplyDelete***sitting back waiting for the cop haters to turn this into a flame war on the KCPD rank and file***
ReplyDeleteHe got a raise because his "hot spot" program is working so well.
ReplyDeleteWhy is anyone surprised at this?
ReplyDeleteFriends, life is a shit sandwich. The more bread your have, the less shit you have to eat.
It's not about the City of KC having money, it's about the KCPD having the money. If you don't pay your troops, then you have extra jack to slide to your CEO.
This is no different than the private sector within corporations. CEO's are hired who subsequently run the company into the ground, only to keep getting monster increases in their salary. OR . . . if they get "fired," they are given an incredible severance package that nets them a few extra millions while they prepare for their next CEO job.
As a citizen, I'm not even on the sidelines of this issue, but I DO support the working police officers who are doing a job that a large majority of the public doesn't want to do. I think it would be interesting if all of our police actually DID get sick on the same day to reveal how important their work is. The citizens who do look out for each other (like it's supposed to be) won't mind as most of us have a CCW permit and respect for each other.
I don't begrudge an executive being compensated when that compensation is due, but it simply cavalier to accept any raise at a time when your subordinates are not receiving one. The Ben & Jerry's model (top executives can only make so much more than the lowest paid employee) is an exercise in integrity, but unfortnately, modern-day executives fall short in this area.
LOL-ROF
ReplyDeleteThe Command Staff giving it up the azz to the rank and file.
Here suck on this. :)
1:12 is right! Here KCPD have another Shit sandwich.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he can buy an electric razor now.
ReplyDeleteAll the new NIGGERS are going to bleed Kansas City dry, with retroactive pay increases, hiring they pals, hiring they families, hiring more NIGGERS, it's just a never ending cycle, until some human says whoa!
ReplyDeleteMoron
DeleteUn-fucking-believable!! Absolutely shameless money grab by a man who is not even earning the outrageous salary he had before this pay raise. Here's a question, what does the BOPC receive in return? This man calls himself a leader? He has troops that can barely afford to feed their families. Troops who work with substandard, out dated equipment. Troops who once believed he was going to change the culture of KCPD. There can now be ZERO doubt about who he is and what his intentions are.
ReplyDeleteI can't wait to find another department to work at, I'm sick of this place.
ReplyDeleteWhat outsiders don't realize is that this is standard practice for KCPD, REWARD AND PROMOTE those who do nothing and are incapable meanwhile the quality officers continue to suffer and get shit on.
ReplyDeleteThank you Chief for continuing to divide, no, shred our department. Whether it be a racial divide or command staff vs rank and file divide it will topple. You, Chief Forte, are no leader. Enjoy those six figures, maybe you can buy some more ribbons for your uniform since you have only earned four. That just goes to show what type of "cop" you were before you got the position you are in now.
ReplyDeleteWhat a slap in the face to the rank and file.
ReplyDeleteOnce you achieve the rank of captain it's all about taking care of yourself. You get the fat check, the take home car, and the ability to start and end your shift from home. All this while remaining oblivious to the plunging morale and skyrocketing disgust of your overworked, under appreciated troops. I hear a captain at metro patrol loaded the leftovers from the Christmas dinner into his take home car and took them home to feed his family. This is a man who takes home 4 times more money than some of his troops. That's the mentality and it will not change. They will follow their leader Chump Forte and fleece this city and the rank and file for all they're worth!
ReplyDeletecant blame the rank and file for bitching if he was such a great pick he should have turn down the raise until his men under him got theres. i guess the gang of 8 is out for themselves wonder how many other ass. chiefs got raises
ReplyDeleteDon't just put it on the Chief. The Fraternal Order of Police attend every meeting of the Board of Police Commissioners and they read the minutes of every meeting as soon as they are posted. The Executive Board of the FOP knew that the Chief received a retroactive raise and they chose to sit on that information. Aparently getting the current MOU approved was a greater priority than calling upon each and member of the rank and file to work according to how they were being paid . . . weakly.
ReplyDeleteI don't support the Chief accepting the raise, but can any one of us blame him for getting while the getting is good?
Watching the operation of our Department is getting to be painful. We are saturating the Hot Spots with a directive to NOT put people in jail. Those that DO choose to make an arrest, they are out of service for hours due to the established process.
I have applications in with several other agencies, but my greatest fear is they will see who my current employer is and then send me a nice letter saying, "Thanks, but NO THANKS!"
A raise?...A RETROACTIVE RAISE? For what? A ridiculous violent crime rate, multiple officers charged, arrested, and/or terminated for illegal activity! A true leader does not eat until his troops are fed. CHUMP FORTE seems to be eating before his people even sit down to the table. I wonder how he looks himself in the mirror. I also want to know what the BOPC will receive in return, because he obviously didn't get a raise based on his efficiency in office.
ReplyDeleteNot entirely true, it was on the FOP posting board on facebook public safety coalition. Now if they supported it that would be an entirely different story, and I doubt that is the case.
DeleteTime to find another job with another depart. KCPD is no longer worth it.
ReplyDeleteGuess where he is at now. Out celebrating with a lunch on the plaza.
ReplyDeleteCapital Grill?
ReplyDeleteForte is in deed a CHUMP! I love it, thanks whoever posted that
ReplyDeleteWell at least now we know the truth about him and the commanders. They don't care about the ranks or the department. I've decided not to give 100 percent any more, I'll give it 25 percent if that.
ReplyDeleteThis is the second chief at KC to receive a big raise and do absolutely nothing positive for it. He has wasted countless man hours with his hot spot program and driven morale into the dirt even further.
ReplyDeleteMake no mistake, this was part of a corrupt deal that involved the PD going to city insurance. It was the same deal that allowed him to promote that criminal Hunley. As long as he does whatever the Mayor wants, he will get whatever he wants. Too bad he is only looking out for himself and his pals and does not care one bit about the rank and file or the citizens of Kansas City.
Very disappointing for department members, no leadership, no support. The department commanders are just out for themselves. Greed. Time to look for another pd to work for.
ReplyDeleteLeadership like this sends a message.
ReplyDeleteThe message that even in the stationhouse it's best to leave that 20 on the floor. Keeps everyone thinking about that surprise roger if they bend over. 24-7 it can happen to you.
Man, I miss Bishop
ReplyDeletePerhaps the KCMOPD would be interested in my new community policing program called KIND, Kill an Innercity Nigger Daily. I believe it can work.
ReplyDeleteWell what do you want them to do put him on piece work? Give him a raise if the crime rate falls a certain percentage? Reward him if the murder rate goes down? Compensate him more if unsolved cases are brought to justice?
ReplyDeleteCome on this is the way Kansas City politics are played. Can't we be grown up about this? (Scarcasm intended).
Hudley? Really? What a disgrace and embarrassment to this dept. The word "slob" would be more efficient. This guy is one of the most racist mother fuckers on the KCPD.
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ReplyDeleteReally nice. Excellent comment.
The truth, as people believe it to be, comes out here on Tony's blog.
As I sift the wheat from the chaff to form my opinion, which is, of course, just my opinion, I am thankin Tony for delivering the visceral reaction from the rank and file with regard to this latest piece of local news.
It looks to me, like the Chief and his gang of 8, are sticking it to their own, and stickin it to us.
Just my opinion.
Maybe he got the raise for insuring that racial quotas with relation to hiring are making the Dept. more efficient.
Ok, Kansas City, what the fuck do you do now? Say "oh well, there's nothing I can do" or just plain "fuck it"?? The criminals are going to take this just as far as they can and if YOU let them, there IS NO END.
ReplyDeleteI think the news media should know this. Once again the officers that do the work get shafted again. Forte is out for himself and screw everyone else. Before this is over we will end up having a cop killed.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you 4:10. I would still like to see the photos of the thug who's in the academy now throwing gang signs, flashing money, and showing off his new glock. I hear there are photos out there. Also heard that this kid only had to write a 191 to explain himself . Times of change are here boys/girls in blue. KCPD "USED" to be a great department to work for. I would hope that the younger guys cut back on their productivity. Be sure to take your time on the burglary calls and complete all your area canvasses.
ReplyDeleteI knew I should have switched to the fire dept.when I had a chance. At least their Chief admitted he failed them and retired before he got a raise. Just goes to show you that Forte is all about himself. Seems like Smokey cared about his people. I'm so ashamed to be a cop right now. I guess we should follow our supposed leader and just take ours!
ReplyDeleteWhy don't these cops stop crying, suck it the fuck up, and just do their damn job. They don't make men like they used to...cops crying to blogs and shit? Go see a fucking therapist-not a blogger you bunch of cry baby pansies.
ReplyDeleteWhy don't these cops stop crying, suck it the fuck up, and just do their damn job. They don't make men like they used to...cops crying to blogs and shit? Go see a fucking therapist-not a blogger you bunch of cry baby pansies.
ReplyDelete"Nigger Man" and his self proclaimed small penis returns!!!
ReplyDeleteI was going to stick up for the Chief here, but I decided that he needs to pay me more.
ReplyDeleteIf there is a sergeant in the field still questioning why his people are so disgruntled and refuse to do more than is absolutely required they should finally realize why.
ReplyDeleteIT AIN'T ENOUGH.........
ReplyDeleteSince the Chief no longer has my back I will no longer have his. I told my wife when I got home that I was looking for another department to go to, in the mean time I'm not sticking my neck out. I'll do the bare minimum, I've got a short timers attitude.
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting for the day when the Chief comes in to work and sees that he has to run the department with 1/3 the staff like patrol has to do in their divisions every night. Having 8 officers working an area when there should be 25 working at normal staff is something for the public to be concerned about. Having so few officers in patrol is raising response times ten fold and is overworking the officers in the field as they are having to do the work of 25 officers with 8 or so.
ReplyDeleteI agree with 4:55 PM.
ReplyDeleteDon't stick your neck out.
It's not worth it.
Do just enough to stay out of trouble.
The Hot Spot program is not working. Take it from the rank and file who are out on the streets every day/night. Yeah, homicides are down from last year at this point. Big deal. August is always a bad month for KC. Just wait.
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ReplyDeleteJust my opinion again, but it sounds like money is the smaller part of the equation here.
Most folks, when they go to work, actually want to accomplish something, do their job right and feel validated by way of the good job that they do.
A community service job, under the scrutiny of the 4th estate, the media and community at large, no doubt feels this scrutiny more than electricians, bricklayers, retail folks and serivce folks.
The frustration expressed here, in my opinion is a dirct result of not only the payroll inequities, but infact the cvatch 22 stiuations that officers find themselves in minute to minute becasue of the PC shit forced down their throats by those same superiors, 4th estate, and the community.
Catch 22 might catch the gang of 8.
Shut up 4:32, cops have bitched as long as there've been cops. It's they're way to cope with asshole citizens (sounds like you) and command that tries to screw them at every turn. Difference today is the tech available. Don't like it? Don't read it.
ReplyDeletenot sure the chief deserves it, but the guys & gals certainly do!!
ReplyDeleteThey are dedicated to the citizens and work in a very dangerous job every day....AND this includes all the civilian employees too!
How disappointing. Sounds like Corwin. Unfortunately it's apparent that the chief like corwin before him cares only about himself and his entourage. The rest of you are screwed. I'd once like to see a chief who actually had character and a high level of integrity but this is kc. Kcpd has been dying for several years along with the city itself due to politics, selfishness, and lack of vision. The chiefs and royals are national examples of the malaise that exists here. If you can, move on to more progressive areas of the country with departments that aren't failing. Wish you the best, stay safe.
ReplyDeleteMan I love it when leaders say FUCK YOU to all the people underthem.
ReplyDeleteHe will go home tonight saying I got the gold mine they got the shaft just what those stupid idiots deserve.
Police have a difficult job to do. This city is being run by crooks and lawyers (hard to tell them apart at City Hall).
ReplyDeleteIf you want to punish the crooks make sure the Toy Train fails the vote. Tell the Mayor that is what happens when you mess with cops.
Again, stop the Toy Train. Then the crooks at City Hall will stop partying long enough to pay attention to your needs.
J. W. Helkenberg
Hey gov Nixon, harumph, great oversight by your board. The telling part is a 5-0 vote in favor of a raise, when we all know the board is well aware of all the problems with the department and the failure of leadership to rectify the problems. It's getting very clear why the kcpd is so screwed up. Hey board, do your job! We all know this is just to pad your resume you selfish little people but you are aware there are real people involved here who are being adversely affected by your lack of leadership. Again, have some guts and do your job! If you're not able then get the hell out of the way for someone who can.
ReplyDeleteFirst Corwin started the department on a down hill slide, now Forte has completely ruined it. I no longer support the command staff. I will not help them nor will I support any of their programs. Just like them, it's everyone for themselves.
ReplyDeleteDaryl "the chump" Forte has a nice ring to it!
ReplyDeleteJordan Nelson for Chief!
ReplyDeleteThat dude is a arrogant dumb fuck. With his gay ass tattoos, fucking pickle tickler
DeleteI sure hope I don't have to call kcpd anytime soon, sounds like they may have a few issues to work out internally. This is scary
ReplyDeleteHow about Kelly Urich for Police Chief?
ReplyDeleteI mean could it be anymore insane?
At what point will Chump Forte realize he's traded his legacy for $? He was given a position that few others have been able to attain. A position where he could affect so many in a positive way and he chose to squander it. He caved to the pressures of a corrupt city government. He will be remembered for generations for this! If they still speak of Bishop and the way he treated his officers what will they say about Chump Forte in 20 years? HE STILL HAS THREE YEARS LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT! Did Bishop even accept a raise during his tenure? When you look yourself in the mirror I hope you recognize yourself for what you are...a mope. Take the $ now run PLEASE! You set your legacy and your place within the history of KCPD in stone with this move. When you go to church on Sunday will you pretend to be Christian?
ReplyDeleteHey Tony,
ReplyDeleteYou should ask some rank and file about "blackout time" here in KC. Ask them about triage and how they have to assign priority to murder, death, kill type calls and property crimes might have to wait 24 hours or more before they can be responded to. IF they can even be responded to at all....
This is a terrible situation where one man has decided to reap more rewards while his people on the ground continue to be overwhelmed with horror and low pay.
Meanwhile the City Clowncil continues to play lead fiddle while the city falls into ruin.
Sly James as The Joker?
We need to let the officers on the ground know that we support them.
J. W. Helkenberg
That turd Police Chief has ruined the department.
ReplyDeleteWho's the metro patrol captain who took the Xmas left overs home?
ReplyDelete3:29 an accountability program is what all city and government officials need!!. They need to be held accountable for what they promise and never deliver!! After all isnt that kind of a form of fraud??!!!
ReplyDeleteAmericans need to have an accountability programs for politicians on the federal, state, and local governments!!!
Just because a politician is elected, or city official appointed, should not mean they should keep their term or appointment if they don't produce...after all if you at your job do not produce and satisfy your employer..your ass will get fired, so why do we allow politicians, city officials, fire chiefs, police chiefs etc to get away with it?? what makes their shit stink less? Something sure stinks here in KC and we are the ones who pay for reckless people in power and that must change people!!!!
Screw KC cops and firemen! Arrogant asshole thugs.
ReplyDeleteI just read the book, "Mafia and the Machine". It's sounds way to familiar. Sly James as a dark pendergast and the chief his soldier.
ReplyDeleteHey 7:32, that would be Todd "the schmuk" Marx. What a douche he is!
ReplyDeleteNo it was Joe Crayon aka Joey Crayola. I watched him load it up in his department take home car which is fueled by the shattered dreams of his troops, to take to his impoverished, malnourished family!
ReplyDeleteThis might be, the best 1st Amendment Blog in the United States of America.
ReplyDeleteI am crippled by logistics and my own opinion, which is a voice in the forest where trees fall in silent agony.
God bless you Tony.
The price of truth, is spent in blood.
Chump Forte is probably related to the mope recruit with the pistol toting gang sign pics, so typical of KCPD these days
ReplyDeleteTony get the pics that are floating around of the black police recruit flashing his tra wall gang signs with a gun and extended mag and drug money. How does that get by the background.??? Oh yeah cause he's black and related to someone in the gang of 8. Good luck KCPD
DeleteHe cried, literally, and said he was sorry so they let him stay. He is headed straight to Lemon's squad after breakin...
DeleteWhat a dirty back stabbing son of a bitch he turned out to be. Leadership my butt.
ReplyDeleteIt used to piss me off hearing the ignorant public trash kcpd, but you know what, some of them are right. It seems like overnight our org has went to shit, and to top it off, our fearless leader (ha!) has sold his soul. How he can live with himself after months of knowing full well his troops would not get anything close to what they deserve, only to accept a fat raise, is beyond sickening. He is fully aware how shitty morale is, but he still takes a giant raise? Who the fuck is this guy?
ReplyDeleteThat is one Helluva Raise!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMan, especially in these economic times. Boy there's no shortness of greed with the Police commanders.
Just when you thought things could not get any lower on the department.
ReplyDeleteHow low can you go ?
fuckin pathetic...
ReplyDeleteWell now we know why he was so anxious to out the pd on the city's health care! Sold his troops, their families, and his reputation for some cold hard cash!
ReplyDeleteCHUMP FORTE!
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Forte thinks he can buy the respect of the rank and file, oh wait I forgot he already told us he doesn't need our respect
ReplyDeleteif you all meant what you said...you would be gone already.
ReplyDeleteKcpd employees aren't the only ones that should be pissed off about this. The citizens who are paying his outrageous sallery should be too. When they call 911 his fat happy ass doesn't show up, its the pissed off overworked and underpaid employees that show up, 20-30 minutes after they have called for help because manpower is so low because no one wants to work for this slum lord. Money well spent KC!!!
ReplyDeleteKCPD is a very poor place to work, the troops have been screwed over by the gang of eight.
ReplyDeleteThe rank and file have been betrayed.
ReplyDeleteThere is a back door scandal some where in this hot mess...it's not just the money...
ReplyDelete4:34 keeps lurking in the shadows, with his dick in his hand. Oh wait, that's not his dick, is it??
ReplyDeleteI want to know more about the deputy police Chiefs- "The gang of 8".
ReplyDeleteWho are they? Why have they been promoted to this level?
I would like the media to do a full blown story on what is going on in our town.
The street officers are getting screwed. Stay safe KCPD!
This is not good news for KCPD but what is almost worse is that those of us on the force had to hear about it on TKC. Why didn't our FOP have this information out? Don't we have a full time paid position that is supposed to keep us informed on this crap. I know the FOP board knew, why didn't they pass it on? It's not like we don't have tons of social media to get the word out. That used to be the excuse they made, that it was too hard to get information out. Now the FOP has their own FaceBook page and we don't hear shit. Makes you think... Just what are we paying for?
ReplyDeleteJust checked, the last comment on KCFOP Facebook page was June 20th!!!
ReplyDeleteWTF!!!!
Thanks FOP for keeping everyone up to date and in the loop. Not!!!
Who or what is the "Gang of 8" that is mentioned frequently on this blog?
ReplyDeleteMaybe this turd will finally buy a razor
ReplyDeleteI understand the feelings being expressed. The PD got the royal shaft from city hall when it came to raises. the chief has the budget staff working with the city manager to develope a pay Pay plan that would bring equity
ReplyDeletewith local fire! if the city wants pension reform (and they do) we have a great opportunity to mandate that parity must first be given. THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY OF THE CHIEF. I know you all are frustrated but please give command the chance to get this done. as faras the 6 months performance review raise the chief was given .This was part of his contract and is in line with other departments of our size. hell we have several department directors at city hall who make more than the chiefs salary. Don't begrudge him for receiving a probationary review raise, parity with fire is a priority with him and negotiations are currently occurring to make this happen
So what you are saying 10:09 is it is ok to freeze our salary step increases but grant the chief his salary increase. And I will agree with one thing you said. The pd does get the royal shaft from city hall but you failed to mention the even bigger shaft of the command staff and the board sticking it to everyone below them.
Deleteyou guys are sad ur base pay is over 40000 but u complain u cant make it. most of you work off - duty then go buy some stupid ass stuff u dont need. all you guys do is complain while fukin most of the countrys on food stamps wether they like it or not. THe fault lies squarely with the Fop we pay dues for what free cell phone and familt trips at our expense. I say we join local 42 or teamsters and fire the Fop board
ReplyDeleteIF you officers call each other racist names like this and treat each other like crap i can only imagine how u treat the citizens u come in contact with.
ReplyDelete10:18
ReplyDeleteI don't know where you get your info, I have been on for almost 6 years and didn't take home $40k last year that is almost $10k short of what I was told I would be making when I signed on. As far as working off duty, yes I work a lot of it, but I shouldn't have to work 80 hours a week just to make $55k a year. As far as buying stupid stuff I know some do but I personally do not. Thanks for your comment but STFU!
At 10:09
ReplyDeleteThank commander x for your misleading comments. The chief is trying so hard for his officers? It just so happens his pay day comes first? How the hell do you justify that?
Our first "raise" in five years was given by stealing our insurance away. Now you say we will get pay parity with fire (aka what we should have gotten all along), but only if we let you ravage our retirement system. Will the Chief's $123,000/yr retirement be affected by the change? Will yours? Yeah, didn't think so. You are as dishonest as the chump chief and as despised.
Just who the fuck is this "police board", that ok'd this pile O shit??? Names please!!! Maybe even addresses please....
ReplyDeleteNow Forte trying to say he's working on getting officers better pay, that's the same crock of shit we heard from Corwin and it never happened, all the while Corwin was giving himself raises and taking trips all over the world.
ReplyDeleteThey just saying what you hope to hear to buy themselves time, it's all bull shit.
Just because there are other crooks in City Hall that are legally fucking us out of horribly inflated salaries, that still doesn't justify this unshaven coon from fleecing the citizens. On the other hand, nothing, but nothing will be done, EVER.
ReplyDeleteForte has screwed up big time.
ReplyDeleteDon't give us the same ole bullshit line that parity is a top priority of Chief Forte'. Maybe you don't remember 400 of us were behind him at City Hall when he told the Mayor and Counsil that he knew that they didn't have the money, but he had to ask anyway. The next week the BOPC and Mayor voted to screw the members of the department (supported by Forte'} by going to health care. Even our current BOPC voted after she swore she wouldn't. The BOPC passed a resolution supporting parity, but none of them have been active in the discussion. Now we are told that the city wants pension reform, but this time the BOPC and chief have no chance of getting it passed without the support of the FOP in Jefferson City. We should all attend the next meeting and make sure our voices are heard in this issue.
ReplyDeleteThis was a huge screw up by the BOPC and Chief, and they seriously misunderstood the level of frustration with this department.
If parity is really a top priority, where is he? He has never attended any roll calls, and has been silent on this issue. Lead, follow, or get the hell out of our way.
I tell you one thing, the next FOP meeting better have answers or this department will implode. Maybe the chief can attend and spell out his plan.
@ 1009
ReplyDeleteGive command a chance?
Officer step increases-FAIL
Moral-FAIL
Rejis-EPIC FAIL
Eticket-EPIC FAIL
Hot Spot-FAIL
Crime rate-FAIL
Health insurance-FAIL
They've had more then enough chances. Yet the only thing truly accomplished is a nice pay raise for the Chief.
How can you seriously post some BS rhetoric like that? And commanders wonder why rank and file don't trust the command staff.
As a citizen, this is an outrage!
ReplyDeleteI agree with 6:53 the E-Ticketing and Rejis are HUGE FAILURES. What a waste of money and time. Who was the PO who was behind the e-ticketing?
ReplyDeleteHonestly all you fellow officers are pathetic. I understand that there are many officers that are pissed about the lack of raises and the chief getting a huge raise. Hey dumbasses Corwin hasn't given you a raise in forever. It's okay to blame the black chief who has been in office for eight months. We call you raicst. Again, we call you all racist. If you think I'm wrong, you are a racist. To come to a conclusion that a person race is your outlet for displeasure is pathetic. Honestly if you want to leave, then don't let the door hit you in the ass. I get it though, you racist don't like it when someone black is in charge. I call it the obama syndrome. If things are good, no problem. However, if they do something of displeasure it's because they are black. How stupid does that sound? By they way, how can you call someone the gang of 8 and drop the n-bomb right after? We call the a hypocrite.
ReplyDeleteFrankly, this city had and always will be divided. Ie the north of the river is gods country. By they way, the possible gang member in the academy. One if that is true it's fucked up. However, this department consists of 90% white. Therefore, how many jacked up white people have came through? I get it, it's like a black officer policing in the inner city. They only like being police by white people. You all only want to screwed by your fellow white man. Chief Corwin started rejis. Don't forget about Schnell and spencer. What about all the white officers arrested for DUI and assaulting the police. White officers breaking into peoples house on duty. Need I go on? I could.
All I'm saying if you all have issues with the chief, that's fine but to be a damn racist as a means of expressing yourself, that's bush league. Again, if you don't like it fucking leave. If you are staying how about you help with something, than bitching from the stands. Wait, I thought that's what the fop is for.
Hmmmm. I bet your black. Or you work in his office.
DeleteThat's all you got from what I said? You are sad and are not worth any further thought.
DeleteYou know this isn't really a race thing at all. Its a "doing the right thing" thing. Your people don't get a raise and then you take a 18% raise? What do you expect! Back to the race thing......It only becomes a race thing when you promote of idiots like Randy Hundley. That is a stupid decision that was brought on due to pressure to keep ethnic diversity in the ranks. Whatever happened to promoting good and deserving people who worked hard, not just because they were black, hispanic, asian, etc. You know loyal people like Kevin Murdock, who has been passed over for promotion since Christ was a Corporal. This police department is not our "father's police department." It has changed so much and not for the better. When Darryl was promoted to Chief, I was pretty excited that the PD may be turning the corner to a better organization that people enjoyed coming to work and throwing bad guys in jail. That is not the case. There is so much anger, hostility and diversity between ethnic ranks that I'm suprised that white officers aren't beating up black officers and visa versa. There may never be a fix to this, but the damage from the message this pay raise sends is not fixable. Chief Forte will have to step down and retire and another Chief come in to try and fix morale. But what do I know.....they fired me for working hard and trying to make this a better city. I worked my ass off everyday and where did it get me.....unemployed. Make a few mistakes of a couple decades and then become subject to the anger and wrath of the haters and those former commanders like Laura Barton.
DeleteGood luck to you my brothers in arms. You have a challenge ahead of you.....and like Steve Bishop said in one of his meetings at Metro Patrol Division years ago......if you don't like it, there's the door. Who knows, that open door may be opporunity.
Thank you officer for what may be the most hypocritical post ever on TKC. Its okay that Forte takes a raise because a white Chief did it? Its okay we have a gang member in the academy: Whitey has some bad apples too! Shockingly, you seem to agree with all the complaints on this board, but you become a Forte apologist for no reason besides his race. I've read most of the posts on here. I did not notice any mentioning the Gang of 8 that contained the N-word. If I missed one or two sorry, but I don't think racism is the prevailing attitude.
ReplyDeleteTo your demand that we leave...why? Is there no room for diversity of thought at KCPD? Anyone who isn't with you is against you? In case you hadn't noticed, we are leaving and in droves! Most of us are responsible enough that we want to get another job before we quit the one we have so we don't become leeches on society.
One place the Chief has failed without question is in his ability to bring the department together. He has instead created an us vs. them mentality and broken the department into factions with no observable positive results. This man is no leader. Wholly undeserving of his position and pay.
Ah Mr 12:37 apparently I am the most hypocritical person to post a blog, really? Apparently you do not read very well. Kinda like the person that stated, "I bet you are black. Or work in his officer." First of all I wasn't saying its okay to have a "alleged" gang member in the academy. My point was this department is filled with a bunch of bad apples, black and white.. Second, I never said it was okay for the chief to get a raise. Third, yes there was no direct n-bomb drops after the gang of eight reference, but I can read in between the lines. Why would anyone refer to the gang of eight? Why would anyone refer to a possible black male in the academy.? What does any of that have to do with officers not getting raises, moral going down, and officers leaving? This is where MY POINT comes in. You can have a problem with all that and its fine, but YOUR fellow officers point out the people they are having problems with are black. What does black have to do with anything? I can tell you. It's an response on how others direct their displeasure, with someone different than them. Reread the 65 post; maybe more. Fourth, why leave? Duh YOU DONT LIKE IT HERE. SO WHY STAY? Of course you would throw, again, a race comment in it; "no room for diversity". I can't figure it out, are you calling me a racist or a liberal. You second paragraph sounds like you just finished watching fox news or some other right wing program.
ReplyDeleteYou can have whatever problem with the chief and how this department is ran. However, everyone sat back and watched the previous chief run this department to the ground. Didn't say one damn word. We get a new chief, who happens to be black, and expect him in eight months to unfuck the unfucking over six years. Cause it works that fast. Would it be any different if the chief wasnt black? Yea. So dont complain to me that I'm defending the chief, probably because you think I'm black. White officer have been so disrespectful to this man and have caused the diversity problem. I've been here 12 years. I know. Hey it will be okay when someone non-ethic is chief.
No one said a word under Corwin? Were you in a coma? Everybody hated Corwin and still does! No one is clamoring for the good old days of Corwin.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to show you something here:
"I wasn't saying its okay to have a "alleged" gang member in the academy. My point was this department is filled with a bunch of bad apples, black and white"
" Its okay we have a gang member in the academy: Whitey has some bad apples too!"
See how those two comments are nearly identical? Yet, we have somehow reached very different conclusions. The difference is I don't advocate the approach of the fender has a dent so lets demolish the car. One thing Forte has done a reasonably good job of, exception of Lyle Jackson, is getting rid of bad apples. But I don't understand why we would want to refill the place with more!
Your why leave comment is a lie. Am I to believe you are so concerned with the happiness of the officers you think are racists that you want them to leave for their own personal improvement? No, you don't like that they disagree with you and want them out of the way. At least be honest about it.
You see no n-bombs but read between the lines. Are you a mind reader too? People can disagree with how someone manages and not be racists. People can point out issues such as the Gang of 8 and the questionable character of the young man in the academy and not be racist. You throw around that accusation with a startling casualness! Look at our discussion, I have made no mention of what race you may be and don't really care, and you still want to loop me in with other comments made from people who probably aren't even cops.
I don't care what race the chief is. I care about his effectiveness as a manager and this one is failing miserably. The most disappointing part is that Forte was once one of the few popular commanders. He did not use to play the games the way he seems to be now. No one expected anything great from Corwin, but there were high hopes for Forte from black and white officers alike. Those high hopes have been dashed and it feels like betrayal now. He hasn't "unfucked" anything. He's made it all worse. It didn't have to be this way.
Talking points and rhetoric. You are no longer worth having further conversation.
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