TKC BREAKING NEWS!!! SATURDAY NIGHT GUNFIRE AND RIOTING ON THE PLAZA!!!



We'll link the mainstream media reports as they come down . . .

Right now . . .

THERE'S A REPORT OF GUNFIRE ON THE PLAZA WITH MULTIPLE INJURIES!!!!



A TRUSTED source on the scene said, "The Mayor and Alvin Brooks were on the scene and it didn't do a thing. They went home at 10 and the trouble started at 11."

Helicopters are on the scene . . .

Mounted patrol is town there as well . . .

There's word of near riot conditions.

DEVELOPING . . .

The Star's report published 1:37 AM: "At least three youths were injured in shootings late Saturday night on the Country Club Plaza, where a melee erupted in which Mayor Sly James was shoved to the ground."

"Melee" is a very nice word for RIOT.

Mayor Sly James is reportedly reconsidering a curfew.

More links later . . . Thanks to all the commenters except for the racist d-bags -- There is some great info in there that's appreciated.

More later . . .

KMBC: 3 Teens Shot On Country Club Plaza

NBC Action News: Three shot on Country Club Plaza

RDM: Flash mobs on the Plaza!!! Accountability time.

Alonzo Washington: Mayor Sly James & Alvin Brooks take gunfire/When keeping it real goes wrong!

Twitpic: One of many pics of the incident on social media pointed out by many Awesome Tipsters.

WDAF: Teens Shot While Mayor Observes Plaza Activity

KCTV5: Gunfire rings out on Plaza: 3 teens shot

Comments

  1. No shit - the helicopters sound like they from Apocalypse Now. I'm two blocks form the Plaza.

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  2. Suspect description is, seriously, "three black males."

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  3. It's 3 vic as of now and possibly more . But 3 as of now.

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  4. Hahahaha!!!! Niggas jus bein Niggers!!!! dat's all!!!

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  5. Very true 1145. To bad niggers ruin everything.

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  6. What else is happening with this??? Update us 11:35!!

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  7. you put a couple of white boys in a black part of town and they start shit like this its racial motivated so what do we call this????

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  8. Cool...Huh huh huh huh...

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  9. rosecoloredglasses8/14/11, 12:25 AM

    Been an hour. Time for an update, T.

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  10. Tyler Dustin8/14/11, 12:25 AM

    Nice racist readers/commenters. I wonder why there would be a race problem in the city. Garbage.

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  11. Friends of mine who are working down on the Plaza are telling me there are more cop cars than they've ever seen in one place. Riots are forming and that it's out of control.

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  12. 1228 no riots. Just a large crime scene . No new info other them 3 juv vics. Shot by 3 black male juv. No one in custody . To bad ole sly had just left about an hour before .

    Another shooting just happened at 1502 parvin in north land . One of the vic shot with a shotgun.

    1101 troost at the bus station a grenade was just found on a bus. What the Hell is going on tonight

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  13. 12:33 thanks so much! crazy stuff going on!

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  14. Please keep updates coming. Sadly, this is the only media venue reporting the story. I'm updating friends via Facebook so they avoid area.

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  15. Car Chase with a black dodge crashed into a semi at 30 and Cleveland area. One black male incustody one still at large.

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  16. Tony's blog is the only source for updates on this story. There were a couple of tweets posted on Twitter about an hour ago. One lady tweeted they were locked in PF Changs, she tweeted she heard gunshots. Large police presence. Sad night for Kansas City.

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  17. Good gravy! We need a better strategy against crime.

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  18. yup, full moon tonight

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  19. All I have for now people. Sorry tony I made you look bad with all my info but someone has to make your blog work. I will update with more info if I get anymore.

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  20. Kansas City Star now posting the story. Mayor Sly James was very, very close to the shooting. Alvin Brooks as well. This will bring about a significant govt response.

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  21. I was there on the patio at the cheesecake factory trying to eat it happened right across the street... I ran inside fearing for my lofe holding on to a waitress sayin a prayer we thought they were shooting into the store this is beyond redicoulous curfews arent going to fix this problem

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  22. StillAtMyMomsToo8/14/11, 1:36 AM

    Wow, they, whatever race they are, were retaliating against the curfew! I guarantee! Fucking dumb ass and ignorant degenerates who have to inflict violence to send a "message." They sure live up to their fucking stereotype. I bet the property management of the Plaza is going ape shit over this. Wow, nothing is safe downtown. Humanity is a freak show, bar none.

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  23. These are REAL NIGGERS who ruin a good area! There is no debate on this I was walking home from the bar right when this happened! Fuckin black scum ruins my neighborhood! You have prospect and troost, don't ruin a good area. Cops for now on just need to shoot any bigger that thinks about causing problems!

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  24. Nice govt blog with sock puppet posts.

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  25. I was setting there inside the cheesecake factory watching little kids cry im afraid this is going to cause a war.

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  26. StillAtMyMomsToo8/14/11, 1:44 AM

    @ 1:41

    What were little kids doing out at 11 o'clock at night?

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  27. They were with their families tryig to eat dinner

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  28. Sorry tony I made you look bad with all my info but someone has to make your blog work. I will update with more info if I get anymore.
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    the only reason anybody gives a shit about your comments because they're on Tony's blog.

    The Star won't let you comment.

    Thanks Tony for providing this forum. How you put up with the shitbags and consultants I don't know.

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  29. Whatever Tony. If it wasn't for the comments nobody would read your shit blog.

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  30. OMG. I was locked in The Cheese Cake Factory too. Everyone was freaking out.

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  31. Really for anyone who listens to the emergency radios (police, fire, EMS), with the exception of the presence of the politicos and "community leaders" on the Plaza tonight, it sounds like a pretty typical Saturday night in Kansas City. Shootings, stabbings and car crashes. Later on there will be many calls for people unconscious and passed out here and there, including behind the wheel. It is pretty sad that I can hear all this and think, "Well there goes another typical Saturday night of fun in Kansas City!"

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  32. 147 your a dumb ass. 149 you hit the nail on the head. 147 let me guess you took tonys little dong out of your mouth long enough to type ur post. How about you go back and choke on his Dick and die. Just saying.

    And the mayor and his followers were not on the plaza at the time of the shooting. They were gone about an hour before.

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  33. That's not what the star said dumbass. Why don't you stick your police scanner up your pussy?

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  34. 1:56p. To the contrary, the Star reports the Mayor was extremely close to the shooting. I doubt they'd post that without word from the Mayor, himself.

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  35. Good I hope sly was really there and I hope he was in the middle of all of it so he can see what is really going on. Time to do something slime James. Time to talk to you black people and get some sense knocked into them.

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  36. You two believe the star???? You are the dumb ones

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  37. Sly James did the right thing being there. He is a good Mayor and I'm glad to see he is rethinking the curfew.

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  38. @1:47 am: when it comes to comments about crime stories the Kansas City Star is chickenshit. If sites that get linked on Drudge--a national exposure--when they run crime stories can leave their comment sections open, it seems to me that The Star could too. But it is their site and they can do what they wish. So how many hits and eyeballs do they miss because people are not revisiting the site to check the comments.

    I am thankful tonight that while some of the wounds and injuries sound serious that with the sad exception of the lady in south KC, no one has lost their life as yet.

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  39. StillAtMyMomsToo8/14/11, 2:08 AM

    The Plaza is going to be in a major bind after this incident. I mean, they can't really have a huge police presence; otherwise tourists will be get the impression that the district is a hostile/unsafe area. These are some cocky and bold mother fuckers to retaliate against a BLACK mayor addressing increasing crime in the city.

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  40. StillAtMyMomsToo8/14/11, 2:10 AM

    Tonight's incident probably solidified a 9 PM curfew.

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  41. Listen up Country Club Plaza Business Association. You better get this mess straighten out NOW or you're the next Westport. If you need to spend $100k to keep people safe while shopping your stores, it's worth it. Otherwise, you can kiss the foot traffic goodbye and start shuttering store-front doors and windows.

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  42. Interesting that on the Star's story, the "comments for this story are closed".

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  43. 2:10 - Right on the money.

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  44. 2:14 am: like I said The Star is chickenshit about comments on crime stories. It is an institutional decision. To me it is ironic that most bloggers have pretty open comment policies but the big media chooses to not participate.

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  45. 2:14 - It's a simple matter of self preservation. The amount of horrific "trash" and potentially libelous comments make the decision to limit or nullify posts quite easy.

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  46. 2:27 am I nod at the truth of your post. It makes me sad that being chickenshit is probably the wisest choice. Even if it is dull, boring and stifles productive free speech.

    Now the dumb drunks are starting in...

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  47. Star's story also calls Sly's news conference "impromptu" when their own photo gallery shows Sly with a microphone...impromptu my ass.

    Observer, you don't know as much as you think about the scanner. Po po don't use their regular channels for nights like this. when the have all those extra forces someplace, they have diff channels thats blocked out..thot evrybody knew that.

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  48. Those of you that said he left early are mistaken. The Mayor and Al Brooks were about 50 feet from the shooting scene. Took cover near the patio of the Cheesecake Factory and remained on scene till about midnight. Several hundred, 500+ black male and female juveniles on the plaza tonight. Some as young as 6 or 7 from what I saw. As for the shooting, 3 victims, non life threatening injuries. Of the 150+ people at the scene during the shooting, maybe one witness stayed to talk. typical. I think this will calm the plaza for the next few weekends until the kids find somewhere else to go like P&L

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  49. 2:36am I figured that--unfortunately Blogger does not come with an irony or sarcasm font...encrypted transmissions can't be heard with the common scanner as far as I know.

    I do think however that some poor cop just hit a deer with his car in south zone...and the first P&L overdose is in.

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  50. Actually it was Facebook that was lacking the irony/sarcasm font--social media multitasking caught up with me there.

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  51. These reports here on TKC and elsewhere are really frightening. 2:10 am is right on. People will not come to a place in which they do not feel safe and the environment seems out of control. Plaza management and the city will have to control the thug element; otherwise, well, we have come to know the result too well...

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  52. I find this whole thing a mess! I remember when my parents worried about "the Seville Arcade" , Years later it was the Car music, how this got so corrupt is "the way it is" Remember our parents saying "how safe things were when they were small" We say the same thing to our kids...What is scary is what our children will be saying to their children! For The Love of God...I was a big Westport fan, i went back about 5 years ago and about croked! I had to pay to get in 'the streets" Cops everywhere!!! What went wrong, when we give so much information to our kids! I'm Sorry, but the parents,that includes me and you have not done our job.. A large percentage have and I am grateful, but the rest are the ones allowing this behavior, turing their heads...
    Heidi

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  53. There is no encryption on kcpd radios right now. so scanners pick up whatever is said if its zone

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  54. Hmmm there has been a lack of encryption lately now that you mention it. Tonight probably just used a secret part of the talk group. Besides with just one receiver it is quite possible to miss stuff. Hopefully the rest of the night will be better--sadly, one of the northland victims sounds very bad and could die.

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  55. Here we go and I guess there will be another community youth summit at Police Headquarters, and another takes a village speech.

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  56. 8/14/11 2:14 AM

    Your Right.

    That's why everyone comes to Tony's KC and talk about the issues.
    God forbid the citizens have a say.
    I don't always agree with the comments(like some of those sexual comments that have nothing to do with the topic) but at least there's no censorship here.

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  57. If I remember the Funk had a cup of coffee on the PLAZA but I don't remember him getting pushed to the ground.

    Where was the KCPD "security detail" that protects the Mayor? At least the Mayor did not get shot. Man if you can't protect the Mayor want does that say about KC?

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  58. Whoops "retract" the body guards pushed him to the ground. My Mistake.

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  59. These thugs will not keep me from living this city...I will have a concealed carry within 30 days though.

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  60. Woman shot to death in Kansas City.
    Kansas City police are investigating the murder of a woman who was found shot to death.

    Riots, Murder, Robberies, beatings.
    Another fun filled weekend in the Murder Factory.

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  61. At least three teens were shot on the Country Club Plaza on Friday night when a man opened fire in a crowd.

    The shootings happened near 47th Street and Wyandotte. Kansas City police said two of the victims were boys and a third was a girl. Their ages ranged between 13 and 16.
    A bullet grazed the girl’s cheek and one of the boys was shot in the leg.
    At least 500 people were on the Plaza when the shootings happened

    Police said no suspects were in custody.

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  62. Every fuckin thing I ever said, was dead on the fuckin money.

    Its not th content of character, its the content of the DNA.

    Violence is the ONLY thing these pukes will understand.

    I told ya months ago, to pen these fuckin thugs up like the animals they are until their parents come get them, then pen up the parnets too.

    End the war on drugs and start fightin the real war.

    The war to take back our cities from violent animals that need to be eliminated.

    Somehow though, this sickening disgusting behaviour, will be attributed to 'Society" and the lack of night hoops or some such stupid shit.

    Disgusting.

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  63. Byron.

    How about those kids, just using their "right to assemble" I believe you said.

    Assemble these fuckin disgustin animals in prison where they belong.

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  64. Have you noticed that this stuff is rising in step with Obama's class warfare talk? His rhetoric will make it harder and harder for city's to tamp down the violence. Look for big trouble on election night in '12.

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  65. Kansas City is a mess.

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  66. I'd fuck her in the ass. Then cum all over her face!

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  67. I'm sure those kids were all in line to see "The Help"


    The Kansas City Star is reporting that fights broke out when bunch of white kids cut in line at a movie, "The Help", and then talked during the entire film.

    Hey, those kids were just our having a little fun.

    I fuckin told ya.

    This is just a "whiff of grapeshot".

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  68. Chuck,

    They certainly have a right to enjoy a movie without being harassed & disrespected.

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  69. @ 5:38 - I doubt it. CINDY CIRCO was going to take the lead on all the Plaza flash mob violence after last year's youth summit. I'm sure with her leadership, this whole problem will be resolved in a couple of days. Then we will all be safe to enjoy the plaza again. Right CINDY???? God help us!

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  70. Theres no leadership in Kansas City.
    Its like the Wild West.
    Evetbody picks up a paycheck but no one does anything.

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  71. Where was the Police Chief and City Council? This summer mob problem is the biggest issue in the city and needs city leaderships full attention. If Suburban people and regional visitors give up on the Plaza it's all over.

    Re "Class Warfare" I agree entirely that our country's current leadership is adding to the problem. They speak as if affluence needs adjustment and London and what happens last night is the result.

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  72. 'Everyday I am blessed with the glorious sense of reaffirmation in my beliefs in better parenting and education.' - Me
    This is a symptom of our public school districts repeated failure for the past 20 years. We (Kansas City) can bend over backwards for an out of state corporation (Cordish) to suck $20,000,000 out of our city building and operating a new entertainment district (PnL) but cannot support the education of it's inhabitants. What do you end up with?.... Dumb drunks, (duh)!

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  73. Bumper Morgan8/14/11, 8:03 AM

    A little over 31 years ago I was assigned to an all-night surveillance detail near 31st & Lawn. Radio traffic had been relatively light for a summer night.

    Around 12:30, a band of 15 black kids, ranging in age from 8-9 to 15-16, passed by carrying pipes, half-bricks, etc. They converged on a nice old 442 parked on the street and inside 30 seconds, there wasn't an window unbroken or square foot of body metal undamaged. Shots rang out from a nearby house and the little bastards scattered; don't know or care if any of them got their medicine that night.

    Before I could call it in, a chopper screamed down the street overhead, searchlight on and rotors blowing litter everywhere. 'Heartache Tonight' was playing softly on the radio tonight and it struck me how well it fit.

    This is nothing new; it is simply the most recent chapter of black culture in urban America. These kids are fucked before they are born. Having a black mayor or community leaders (even good ones, the likes of which Kansas City has never had) won't change a thing. Getting shot at does seem to make good Christians out of them, if only temporarily.

    I've known and worked with blacks from Britain, Australia, Jamaica, and at least three countries of deepest, darkest Africa. They don't think or act like the shitbags who ruin anywhere they live and bring credence to the old saying "There goes the neighborhood."

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  74. Schools don't raise and supervise children, parents do. The AA community has for the most part abandoned parenthood. Even Sly's boy's are troublemakers who feel "entitled".

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  75. Actually.. To be more complete, dumb drunks with lots of illegitimate kids, kids with dumb drunk parents, pissed off kids, abused kids, scared and scarred kids, kids with nowhere to go because their parents are dumb drunks, dumb drunks that are products of a failed education system and probably had little to no parental support themselves. Do you have kids, no education and no support? If you did, they would probably be 'Lord of the Flies'-ing all over the city too... jus' sayin'... Parenting and education.

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  76. ChrisN...thanks for being a voice of reason. Unfortunately, piss poor parenting is to blame. Violence and crime committed by young Black teens has been a problem on the east side for quite some time. Now that the problem is crossing Troost and entering our a"Gem" of an attraction we are starting to dialogue about a solution.

    Let's be clear. The answer is not to throw up a berlin wall to keep people out of the plaza or to create a militaristic type police presence that reminds us of the gestapo. Now that we are talking let's look at redirecting the traffic where mature young people can engage in mature fun. Is there an area on the Plaza that young people could be steered to that could provide musical entertainment and the like. Creating walls will create a more intense drive to break through it. The opposition from the East will meet greater opposition from the KCPD and the administration of justice and injustice will divide our city even more.

    Second, create an intervention program for the parents of unruly youth. Haul the parents in and hold them accountable for their children's piss poor behavior. It should be educational and punitive. Give the parent strategies, a timeline to implement, and have a form of measuring success. Have some penalties in place. Bottom line, raise your child to respect authority and obey the laws of the land or the police will handle him as a criminal, lock him up, and lock you up with him. If we are assisting you already then its not a far stretch to have the two of you together in a place where you can be observed and hopefully realize the errors of your ways.

    As a member of the Black Community and resident of the East Side, get these so called Black Leaders in a room, lock the door, and don't let them come out until they have a true action plan to affect real community engagement and change. Time out for photo ops with the Mayor, holding vigils, driving around in air conditioned cars and all the reactionary and pointless activities that produce nothing. Hold the leadership accountable ie. Pastors, NAACP, SCLC, Freedom, Organization Leaders, Fraternities, Sororities, SCLC, etc. Fuck the dinners and fundraisers and giving out awards considering the state we are in. The most pressing Civil Rights, Equal Rights struggle facing the Black Community is the right of Parents to effectively raise our children.

    Finally, I am embarrassed at the behavior of our Black youth and it gives racist assholes a little false ammunition to shoot blanks. But here is the real tragedy, policies are being created and will be created locally and nationally because Black people are considered incapable of responsibility due to the errant behavior of some Black Parents and their children. That too is unacceptable and should be discouraged. So even the racist bastards spewing gross venom under the guise of free speech need to be publicly flogged. I am one Black Man that is not opposed to publicly embarrassing the parent to get their shit right.

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  77. Thursday morning Mayor James voted against any pay raises for the police department. Saturday night, after gunfire erupted, two of those officers pushed the Mayor down, and covered him with their own bodies.

    Hey Mayor, how do you look at another police officer in the face?

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  78. 626 for starters it was sat going into Sunday morning. Not fri. it was teens shooting into teens not a man shooting . get your shit straight before putting out info fag nuts

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  79. 906 you are 100% correct. But guess what .... He don't care and won't do anything to change.

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  80. I think the Plaza Management is going to have to act quickly with or with out the city's help. If they don't it's going to look like Bannister Mall or Indian Springs soon.

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  81. Let's call it what it is. Blacks know that this stuff makes whites uncomfortable. They hear more and more about how the successful (whites) have more and don't deserve it. They hear about how "doing their part" is important for "change". Since they don't have families, jobs, education or any sense of principal here's how they do their part.

    Mainstream America get ready, this is the agenda of the extreme left (Sol Alinski, Bill Ayers) that our current President sowed his oats on and even if he loses the election, he will trumpet into the future.

    This is just the beginning and it will kill commerce in large metro core cities while suburbs like Leawood, Lees Summit, OP, Liberty etc lock it down. It'll be too late for the core cities while the suburbs get the benefit of adjusted civil liberties laws to protect them.

    Remember this post in 20 years.

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  82. 9:33: I'm SO comforted that Alvin Brooks was there. It was also interesting to read in the Star's write-up that the wounded girl's mother had dropped her off and she did not know when or where her mother was going to pick her up.

    8:03: The black immigrants know how lucky they are to be here rather than in Africa, Jamaica, etc. Many of our indigenous blacks are clueless.

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  83. Airick wha da moneys.

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  84. As reasonable Americans re consider the value of Plessy V Ferguson, it is way past time, to seek insight, guidance and sit at the feet of more evolved and realistic Oracles.

    Its time to look at this African American heart of darkness and teh concomitant violence that rides into our cities and destroys, like black locusts everything in its path and resolve to rake for that heart, and stake that heart dead.

    Stand by for sickening, sychophantic, superscillious shit from the 4th estate nationally, and the Kansas City Star locally which will place blame on, no "Nite Hoops", or "White Racism", or "disadvantaged youth" and pay homage and seek comments from African American community leaders, who have no more hope of stemming this tide of violence than our mayor did last night as he was trampled underneath the atavistic, chaotic mob of animals who are emblematic of a growing racial African American antipathy.

    Listen for the usual calls for communication and understanding in the face of incessant violence, stupidity and high crime. Endure the 2nd partying of the blame, and exculpatory paens to 60 years old civil rights struggles which are galactically removed and have nothing to do with the African American murder, rape and theft that is tacitly condoned by our politicians, law makers and media every day.

    African American mobs all across the nation commit hate crimes on a weekly basis, while individual African Americans inflict hate crimes on white people hourly. This African American penchant for wanton violence and lawlessness drives whites from cities, and leaves burnt out, "Thunderdome" neighborhoods which are ruled by feral thugs and crooked politicians.

    As the African American undertow, reaches yet more suburban neighborhoods, whites flee and reconstitute new barbicans to repel the barbarians. Outside the walls, howling for more tribute in the form of misdirected and pernicious social engineering laws and programs to support African American dystopia, the increasing crescendo of chaos is matched by the 4th estate's calls for more Rainbow Down A Rat Hole cash for the very scum they refuse to report honestly on to the very folks they purport to inform.

    Here is more bad news.

    This ungovernable, uneducatable, unrepentant mob of "Dissadvantaged Youth" is beyond help of any kind. Their parents their grandparents and the horde of coming "baby mammas", and "baby daddys" will fill our streets with ignorant, violent thugs whose skills will consist of texting, cell phone use, 2nd grade rhymes and an evermore sophisticated ability for mayhem. Trillions have been squandered on programs designed to promote and elevate African Americans into jobs and positions that they are under qualified for, and compensate them unfairly at the expense of the rest of the populace.

    The results of these efforts, are seen in our fair city last night, and in all major cities throughout the nation on a regualr basis.

    There is one thing, one concept, one path to a solution of these problems.

    Bloody constraint.

    These animals, and animals they are, are modestly qualified to dress tehmselves and feed themselves (On your dime).

    End the war on drugs and clear out the prisons to make room for violent offenders.

    Incarcerate early and often, for extended periods of time, those violent offenders and leave them there to rot.

    End social programs that encourage a lack of personal responsibility and reward a lack of accomplishment.

    Its ok if people starve in the streets. We, as a nation, can no longer afford to prop up a phony black middle class, or their misanthropic, violent offspring.

    Aquire a conceal and carry permit.

    Shoot to kill.

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  85. amen

    i know it hurts but the truth always hurts the worst.

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  86. I honestly don't know what the solution is to these issues... we're trying officials for war crimes for shooting to kill in other countries. There's a lot of upheaval in the world and nobody seems to have a good answer to civil disobedience, riot and rowdiness. Not Egypt, not Syria, not Britain, not Kansas City.

    We've found a lot of things that either don't restore peace (I didn't say 'order') or are unacceptable methods.

    I am not inclined to have curfews but maybe that's a start. I may change my mind on this, regrettably.

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  87. People need to control their children. Remeber this was going on at Crown Center 8 yrs ago and the police loaded up school busloads of kids and took them downtown to wait for their parents. Can't blame the schools on this one, this starts with ignorance at the home. Kids under 10- maybe these parents don't want their kids and they will just get dumped on the system. Back in the 80's it was cool to cruise the plaza and cops would pull you over after 2 trips around the loop.If parents are too ignorant to control their kids, then mandatory sterilization for them.

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  88. So long, Plaza. It's been good to know you the last 35 years.

    This is the first nail in the coffin. White people and tourists will stay away in droves.

    And hope you enjoy your time as mayor, Sly James. You're a one-termer for sure, now. First, you have to apologize for the thuggish and boorish behavior of a grown, adult son and now this.

    Get a handle on this quick, KCPD, or there will be no reason to ever go south of the river.

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  89. "Mayor Sly James was at the plaza when the shooting happened and said he doesn't know if the incident will influence the push for an earlier curfew at the plaza."


    Is this guy a total idiot?

    Apparently

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  90. lots of people say that whites are racist against blacks, well its way worse the other way around. Most black people hate white people and this just makes it more obvious. All these thug pukes shooting up the plaza just because most of the people there are white. They hate us because of what we have. I WORKED MY ASS OFF to have everything I have. I payed attention in school I did my homework. I got into college and got a degree. I worked 3 jobs while I was in college just to support myself. So fuck you for hating me because of that. You could have the same things I have too if you worked for it too but you're too interested in causing trouble and being lazy to try. You could probably go to college for free simply because you are black, there are a bunch of scholarships and grants for black people. You fucking people have been given everything you ever had so you don't appreciate it. Rolling around in your escalades with 26 in rims, your chains blingin', having better clothes and cars and cell phones than I have but still have your little red medicaid card and your fucking food stamps. Why spend your money on things that the rest of us have to if the government is going to hand it to you. Fuck you, you stupid entitled worthless pieces of shit. Go pop off a few more children that you won't take care of. Bring back segregation, I don't want my kids seeing how you refuse to contribute to society and.

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  91. We need to END THIS SHIT NOW. And not just on the Plaza.

    WAKE THE FUCK UP MR. Mayor

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  92. 10:09am- AMEN!

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  93. THE MAXIMUM PENALTY IN KCMO CURRENTLY FOR A CURFEW VIOLATION IS $1.00. NOTHING MORE. EVEN IF THE CURFEW IS LOWERED TO 9PM, ITS A WASTE UNLESS THE PENALTIES ARE CHANGED TO GET PARENTS ATTENTION. PHILADELPHIA'S PENALTY IS A $500.00 FINE. HMMMM

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  94. People to blame for this:
    1. The idiot gangbangers
    2. The idiot parents of the teens that drop an 11 year-old off on the Plaza
    3. The KCMSD for failing multiple generations of kids.

    The KCMSD should be held accountable for helping to create a generation of uneducated parents and not more kids.

    Sad.

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  95. Philly mayor to curfew critics: "Buy a watch."

    50 minors rounded up in first efforts to curb flash mobs.


    Anytime Sly

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  96. Sly is the man8/14/11, 10:30 AM

    Sly can do this. Just watch him. He took a first hand look and now he's gonna show us the way. You people are just playing it safe from Johnson County. You don't have a real interest in KC.

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  97. Airick's scholars

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  98. Welcome to reality Mr. Mayor. Your move.

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  99. im tired of niggers killing everywhere the move to. Im not in joco. i spent 25 years in public service and i am out and moving down the hiway east with like minded people. call it a white flight.

    Until you can put down the pc viel and open your eyes this city will continue to die.

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  100. Poor Sly, he is finally going to have to come out and say "your an embarresment to your race" to all the losers causing this problem.

    Nutter didn't seem to concerned.

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  101. "We're not having the type of violence they're having in Philadelphia," said Mayor Sly James. "They're setting things on fire and tearing down store windows. We need to find ways to fill out children's time."


    Oh so shootings isn't enough lets just give the thugs a chance to start setting things on fire and smashing windows befor action is taken.

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  102. agree with 10:21

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  103. Anytime Sly. We are waiting.

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  104. @9:49 I hope those same animals come to your house and set your shit on fire like they should have done in the 60's. Your maniacal racist view is what fucks up race relations, government, economics, and the whole system. In fact chuck, I am licensed to conceal and carry. I didn't do so to protect myself against the foolish kids on the plaza but more so for hate monger terrorists like you. For the record, I am considered an expert on the range and in live firing situations. If I thought you were really worth the trash your parents created I would invite you to a dual of sorts. But considering your self-absorbtion and undeserved self-grandeur I won't lower myself to meet you anywhere. Rather, I'll do what I normally do and take the trash out when I have the opportunity. I feel sorry for your mother and father unless they injected you with this irrational hatred of others. If Black people really hated White people, do you know how many White people would be maimed, killed, etc. Forget slavery, just contemplate segregation, James Byrd, DWB, housing & employment discrimination, and the latest Black Man killed in Mississippi by some hate filled white teen. Was this teen an anomaly or is he a true reflection of what White America is or wants to be? It's this tea party mentality that is pervasive among so called patriotic americans like you that is in need of drastic psychosocial rehabilitation. Really chuck, you seem like a well read and learned guy, but subscribing to a nazi-like devil manual is only going to lead you to hell. Maybe that's your aim.

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  105. "Whether or not this rises to the level of emergency I'm waiting to hear back from our city attorney and whether or not that triggers our ability to declare an immediate change curfew is something that we will decide when we get that legal opinion,” Mayor James said.


    He needs to wait for his lawyer buddies and cronies I guess to figure something out. Meaning it will take forever and cost more the taxpayers a bundle.

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  106. Agree with 10:51.

    And about this whole situation on the plaza:

    No sir. I don't like it!

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  107. Sly had to be pushed to the ground by his security team to avoid bullets naw it's not an emergency.

    Just some bored teenagers with nothing to do.

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  108. One 15-year-old girl who was with three others about her age said her mother had dropped her off several hours before so that she could hang out and go to the movies. She said she did not know when her mother was going to pick her up.

    One 15-year-old girl who was with three others about her age said her mother had dropped her off several hours before so that she could hang out and go to the movies. She said she did not know when her mother was going to pick her up.

    One 15-year-old girl who was with three others about her age said her mother had dropped her off several hours before so that she could hang out and go to the movies. She said she did not know when her mother was going to pick her up.

    One 15-year-old girl who was with three others about her age said her mother had dropped her off several hours before so that she could hang out and go to the movies. She said she did not know when her mother was going to pick her up.

    One 15-year-old girl who was with three others about her age said her mother had dropped her off several hours before so that she could hang out and go to the movies. She said she did not know when her mother was going to pick her up.

    Rinse and repeat.

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  109. What I found on FaceBook8/14/11, 11:09 AM

    VoicesOf ThePeople (Brandon Ellington) is calling a "community meeting" TODAY- Sunday at 6pm,bring your lawn chairs, this is a development planning meeting to decide "action steps". If you really care about what is going on with our youth, then you will attend & get involved. 3836 Chestnut~

    Atleast Brandon Ellington is addressing the issue that everyone else is pulling the rug over.
    Good for you Brandon,maybe Mayor James will open up his eyes and have you on his team.

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  110. Every time this shit happens Obama's reelection chances diminish.

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  111. hey 10:51 i to carry a marksmenship certification in pistol and rifle.
    That does not make you special.

    I have a ccw because of shitbags in this city black and white.

    I know plenty of black people who hate white people for reasons outlined in other posts.
    I have been blamed for all kinds of shit and mypaycheck is taxed to pay for the welfare programs(yes i am in the 45% of people that pay taxes.
    So go fuck yourself and your duel gesture.
    Just keep on living the thug life..

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  112. 10:51

    I was a gunner from 69 to 73 and can still shoot pretty well.

    I feel ya brutha, and I'm here for ya.

    :)

    Have a nice day.

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  113. Rosecoloredglasses would love to see the perps get HELP not jail time.

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  114. James says this idea (curfew) is one he will need input on from the teens of Kansas City. It's not as easy as a curfew. (KCTV)


    Talk about out of touch with reality phew man. This city will go down in flames at the rate James is getting things done.

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  115. 10:51 I disagree with you. I am a Democrat and not a Tea Partier. I agree with him that if the city does not control the situation then the individual needs to. That is not racist. If it was a mob of white kids shooting each other and putting others in danger, I would still agree with Chuck. I don't treat people the way I want to be treated. I treat them the way I would expect to be treated in the same situation. These thugs need to have fire hoses turned on them. They need to be shot with bean bag rifles. Then their asses, no matter what color, need to be hauled to jail and they need to be treated like adults. If they want to act like adults with weapons, then treat them as such. Forget the community needing to give them something to do. I grew up in a community that did not provide me with entertainment. I read books. I watched TV. When I grew up, I actually got to go places and do other things. THIS IS TH PARENT'S RESPONSIBILITY. The mother of the girl who got shot should be charged with child endangerment! That is exactly what she did, endangered her child. As for a police presence on the Plaza, I would feel safer if I saw a cop on every corner than now. Doesn't KC have a riot squad? Get your shit together if it doesn't! They should be on call and should have been at the Plaza within 15 minutes! At least the SWAT team could have come in. Chuck is correct. Never shoot to injure. Someone on PCP has no pain and will kill your ass. Shoot to kill. A gun in the hands of a 14 year old is as dangerous as a gun in the hands of a 34 year old. Protect yourself.

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  116. Our troops in foreign countries shoot anyone who is aiming a weapon at them and endangering their lives. What is the difference between an Iraqi youth getting killed doing the same thing as one of our own? Is the life of the Iraqi kid any less valuable than our own kids? If we can do it there, let's do it here. Do not consider the age of the offender, consider the age of the gun.

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  117. 11:52

    Is dead on.

    If it were white kids, I would say the exact same thing.

    In fact, though, if it were white kids, the shit would have already hit the fan. Law Enforcement, unemcumbered with fear of the SCARLET RACIST word, would have stopped this shit dead, WITH THE APPROVAL OF WHITE FOLKS IN THIS CITY!!

    But, because, as usual, the perps are black, kid gloves and the wringing of hands accompanied by the hope that Black parents and the black community will speak up with actions and words, hold us all back.

    African American crime is an unfettered and unrestrained disgrace that is tacitly condoned by the media and by the African American community, and the stats are therre for ALL to see.

    Its a fuckin dilsgrace.

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  118. You guys are stupid! The plaza is a direct result of restricting Wesport and restricting the Plaza will only drive the kids to the Power and Light.

    We don't need a curfew. We need police to enforce the laws that are already on the books. Laws like disturbing the peace, fighting in public, walking in the street when sidewalks are provided. NOT ONE SINGLE KID WAS ARRESTED AT THE PLAZA SATURDAY NIGHT NOT ONE!

    Stop trying to make this a race issue. This is an issue of a poor police department not in control of the city.

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  119. Further more, do you think the kids care about a curfew. They shot people within feet of the Mayor and all the police and nobody saw nothing nor did the shooters care about being caught. Seriously, you guys need to get a clue.

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  120. Am all for these kids and their parents being arrested and or fined, but in the long run there should be new tax incentives to persuade lower income folks to not have children.

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  121. The fine for a curfew violation in KC is $1.00

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  122. The fine for a curfew violation in KC is $1.00


    Oh my turning that into $500 minimum would be just so difficult to accomplish. But wait, the lawyers can look at it, and of course we'll need to get input from the teens also and get their approval first.

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  123. Cops can't do their jobs because people will call them racist and sue them for even attempting to stop it. I agree with chuck if these were white kids who did it they all would be in jail and it would be a major issue. But its just to be expeceted because its black kids doing it. Well that's not right either! The cops need to be able to do their jobs with out worry of community outcry because they arrested a black person doing something wrong. Its not racial profiling if it is the truth!

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  124. Install body worn cameras on the cops. When they make an arrest its documented. Take all the videos collected each week and show them at a public meeting each Saturday. The people who cry police as racist will go away. Stop making excuses for the police. They are only good at DWI checkpoints and getting drinks at Quicktrip. They have no clue how to prevent or solve murders in this city and damn sure don't have a clue about how to handle kids on the Plaza.

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  125. And I's sho-nuff don't be seein' dat as a bad thang! Nuh uh good suh, I's-a sho-nuff don't.

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  126. I really wish the media would stop with the politically correct lies.

    The people involved with these flash mobs are not all "teens" -- some are in their 20s.

    They're BLACK FLASH MOBS.

    The people are black. But the PC media wont' print the truth.

    I swear, political correctness is destroying journalism. It's like Orwell's 1984: peace is war, up is down, etc.



    Walter Russell Mead and John T. Bennett are right. Journalists are so consistently dishonest in their reporting that most Americans are refusing to believe anything they write.


    http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/08/07/american-tinderbox/

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/the_taboo_on_mentioning_black_mob_violence.html


    Enough of the deceit and dishonesty.

    Cancel your subscription to the KC Star.

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  127. How bout this. Wear bullet proof vests and helmets when you want to go out and enjoy a nice evening somewhere here in KC. Seems like a lazy mans solution that would work for all.

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  128. Another solution would be just stay home all the time and let mob rule run the streets. Roaming around drinking and toking and smashing windows.

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  129. I agree with anonymous at 12:34.

    I'm tired of the media's dishonest reporting about the black flash mobs. Journalists simply refuse to report that the mobs are black. Look at KC Star's newest articles today.

    I'm going to cancel my subscription.

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  130. Chuck has some good points, especially about the futile war on drugs, but a return to Plessy v Ferguson for the vast majority of blacks who are part of mainstream society would be uncalled for. What we're dealing with is a small segment of the black underclass who are so undesirable that they have forced even their middle class neighbors to leave their old neighborhoods behind.

    These people, and I use that term advisably, are not just an embarrasment to their race, they are an embarrasment to their species.

    And 12:17: There should be NO tax incentives for ANYONE to have children.

    Lower income people who depend on government assistance should be required not to have children as a condition for receiving such assistance.

    Spay and neuter: It's not just for pets anymore.

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  131. Start the curfew and bring in the National Guard if needed. Round up the minors and if their parents can't be contacted haul them off and detain until the parents come to get them. Probably some wouldn't even notice their kids were missing till the next day if and when they recover from whatever binge they were on the night before.

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  132. Oh just what we need to keep companies wanting to relocate to KC with jobs away, call out the National Guard...Give me a break!

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  133. 60% of these kids if tested for drugs would be positive. 10% tested would have an STD. Most are being raised in a single parent home and is more likely than not a women. Over 50% would not know who their father is. 30% have at least on parent in jail. 80% have a friend or loved one murdered in KC. The unemployment rate among youth in the inner city of KC is 60% and you guys only answer to this problem is a curfew and the National Guard...wake up and see whats happening in London.

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  134. kansas city home to crime.

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  135. 1:06

    The two stories dovetail perfectly. A lack of national will, in combination with ridiculous immigrations policies, multiculturalism and diversity concerns, has resulted in mayhem, murder and property destruction.

    The thugs are unredeemable scum and should be incarcerated.

    Yes, the use of FORCE is required in conjunction with the resolve necessary to over come pathetic racist accusations.

    London too, is a fuckin disgrace.

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  136. 1:06's implication, is, that unless Americans kow tow to lawlessness, thuggery and stupidity, it will get worse like it did in London.

    Disgusting.

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  137. Hey, I like chuck. That guy fucking kicks ass. We need to listen to more of him and less to the people who give these thugs a pass.

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  138. call out the National Guard...Give me a break!

    How are 20 police offers going to detain 200 minors running berserk on The Plaza? It's not possible.

    What happens when a curfew starts and they decide to make say Zona Rosa their next "playground".

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  139. This incident is being leveraged as an excuse to become a blatant racist. It's dead wrong. The kids or "youth" are acting like this as result of being a product of their environment. In other words, how else would they act when their parents don't give a shit and let me do as they please? Obviously they are a product of a horrible and neglected upbringing. It's not about whether they are black, white, brown, purple, periwinkle, etc. It's about character as MARTIN said in a speech. And you know what? If they continue to act like heathens, then they better prepare themselves to face the consequences. There needs to be martial law in KC for the next couple months. Civilized folks need to boycott the area until the city gets control of a violent sect of criminals. I know what everybody is thinking: whites need to stray away until blacks get control of themselves. But that's the truth. I AM NOT INSINUATING THAT ALL BLACKS ARE HOSTILE AND VIOLENT, I'M SAYING THAT THE GIVEN CIRCUMSTANCES HAPPEN TO BE THIS WAY: THOSE SHOOTING AND ENGAGED IN THE "MELEE" LAST NIGHT HAPPENED TO BE BLACK. WHITES ARE NEVER INNOCENT. THEY ARE JUST AS CAPABLE OF COMMITTING HORRIBLE CRIMES AS ANY OTHER RACE (RE: NAZIS, SERIAL KILLERS, ETC.)

    You better believe that businesses will be desperately finding solutions to attract civilized people back into their establishments. You can't deny what's going on. And you're ignorant and have an agenda if you construe it as racism. I'm not implying to become racist. I'm just stating the facts. I would suggest the exact same method if a bunch of white trash rednecks were wreaking havoc downtown. Restrict the fucking leeches who abuse our welfare system and spawn a litter of kids they give two shits about from having anymore babies. Call me a eugenics mother fucker--I don't give a damn. A child = responsibility. If you continually neglect that responsibility, then well, you shouldn't be allowed to have child and use them as a source of a paycheck. Address the problem, it's NOT about being black, white, etc. It's all about the ENVIRONMENT. These dumb ass politicos are too afraid to crackdown and address the real problem. Typical scared politicians. Sly proved himself last night: a scared chicken shit.

    And Tony isn't helping either by making this a racial issue and calling everyone d-bags because of it.

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  140. Things have gotten worse8/14/11, 1:26 PM

    Nothing like this ever happened when Mark Funkhouser was mayor.

    If the mayor had no immediate plan to address the issue in a positive manner, his presence only begged disruption.

    The little girl can call the scar on her face her "Sly-Mark" for the rest of her life.

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  141. I don't care if the offender is 10 years old, STICK HIM OR HER IN JAIL, NOT JUVIE. That'll send a clear message.

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  142. Christopher8/14/11, 1:31 PM

    Geneticists like Steven Pinker believe that blacks have more genes for aggression. That blacks are about 12% of the population and commit about 60% of the violent crime is in part genetic.


    "The Truth of Interracial Rape in the United States"

    2005 DOJ Study:

    "In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while less than ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man."

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368

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  143. I agree, Sly's amaturish actions invite civil unrest on a broader scale. This kind of risk taking makes me scared.

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  144. Chuck and 10:09 are right on. I am white, traveled the world, and voted for Obama. Go anywhere in the world there are poor people with nothing to do. Go to any small town in America. You will find poor white trash who contribute nothing to society and keep cranking out kids. Go to Romania and see how poor those people are. Or most places in Africa. The difference between all these places and Black Americans is how casually violent Black America is. Anywhere there are black people here you can count on it being a high-violence area. What I don't understand is they would never let 500 white kids line the streets of Westport but it's OK for black kids. Everybody is right about it being the parents fault but there are problems with that. One regarding black parents it is usually singular. Black out-of-wedlock birthrate was 82% last stats I saw. That one parent is usually just as big as a piece of shit as their kid. The other parent is completely uninvolved. Black people in America will never change for a couple of reasons. One, they have everything handed to them. Two, they don't value education. Most people of every race recognize education as the great equalizer. In the 18 and early 1900's the way for immigrants to better their lot in life was to educate themselves to improve their standard of living. Most black people see no value in this. In fact they are outcast by their peers if they do too well in school. Think they be gettin' all Uncle Tom on their asses. This piss poor attitude is rampant in the black community. Black people have all the opportunities in the world to get free or reduced college yet most drop out of high school instead. My wife just got her 2nd college degree that we paid for out of pocket. She checked into grants and such but being white and already having one degree prevented her from getting any kind of grant. If she was a minority going to school there was all kinds of options. I got a 2nd job to help pay for this. She has a 2nd job still to pay for this. Four jobs between us yet so much of black America will not just get one. My wife and I also had the courtesy to not have our two kids out-of-wedlock and are raising them right. Black America will just get worse. They have zero interest in improving their life the honest way. They want to improve their life by carjacking someone for their Caddy. But working for something is out of the question. They want everything for free that isn't theirs and will kill to get it. I'm sure there will be a bunch of worthless prayer vigils or "community" meetings but it will make zero difference. Just a bunch of talk by people who really probably do care but they can't be the parent to all these thugs. I ask all the black people who read these posts, why all of the violence? Seriously. This does not go on in most parts of the world, even among the poor people. Give us some reasons. And be truthful. Don't just call everybody a bunch of racists and say we don't understand black culture.

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  145. 1:31 is correct. Blacks do have more genes for aggression. Read the book 10,000 Year Explosion.

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  146. Bad Move Mayor8/14/11, 1:35 PM

    Sly was wrong to politicize the issue. He seems to think it was going to be an easy win and things went terribly wrong.

    A little girl is scared for life last night.

    What is next: Bombing a city block from a police chopper?

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  147. Mayor "Tom" screwed the pooch.

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  148. "Blacks do have more genes for aggression. Read the book 10,000 Year Explosion."

    Yep.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_10,000_Year_Explosion

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  149. "All of this could been avoided"

    Alonzo want to elaborate on this claim a bit? Would be interesting to find out what the thugs demands are.

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  150. As others have said so eloquently, niggers are just no fucking good. They stink, they're lazy, they steal, they rape, they just need to die. ALL OF THEM. CCW or not, shot to kill when face to face with a wild assed african cocksucker. It's like the "africanized" bees. They ruined "normal" bees and turned their hives into bombs. Hello?? It's the same story here. Niggers fuck up everything they touch. I (and many, many others) are for open war on these god-damned animals. Bring it on Nigger!!

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  151. N-word is stupid. You are an idiot with no money and a little dick.

    You want to know the sad truth?

    The black teens with flash mobs are better than you.

    Sly will stop this problem. Just watch short dick.

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  152. Oh, Whitey.

    Quit watchin' country line-dancin' on da teevee & go get laid. (By a non-relation this time, now!)

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  153. Has anyone considered the thought that maybe these fine young citizens were just frustrated that they could not get a ticket for Farm Aid?

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  154. Why do we have to keep pretending that a certain group is not creating these type of problems? I don't like it but it is undeniable. Sly james better grow some balls and the council better get out of the way. 9 PM curfew with significant penalties to the parents. If the parents don't care then we can make them care.

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  155. Where is James Press Conference?

    I just watched a piece "Mayor speaks about Plaza shooting" but what I got was an ad for seucrity systems then a tape of last night where he's saying "its not an emergency" before the gunfire errupted.

    Media want to get it together?

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  156. 2:43 PM TV5 is saying the Mayor was "shaken up a bit".

    I guess thats the Press Conference and it wasn't intended to be a public address thing.

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  157. Wheres Tony? He's supposed to be breaking the news. Must be a slow news day or he's admiring all the comments on this particular thread thinking he hit a triple. Of course he could be sleeping I suppose.

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  158. But of course Detroit has to steal KC's thunder..........9 separate incidents, 16 shot, 7 dead in the last 24 hours.

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  159. Mayor must be waiting in the hope the publics notoriously short attention span kicks in.

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  160. 1:32: I, too, have traveled the world and seen the poverty you describe. I've also seen the black middle class here in America and--gasp!--right here in Kansas City (and the 'burbs). They are no different from you and me. To paint all black people with a single brush is wrong. To propose a drastic remedy for those who do violent things is reasonable, and you'd be surprised how many in the black middle class would agree with you--especially the few who still live near the violence.

    Being against the violent black thugs is understandable, but being against all black people makes your proposals less credible.

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  161. Why does anyone go to the plaza for "nightlife" anyway? It's always been a fairly lame place to be.

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  162. Real Reporters are busy covering it while Tony snoozes.

    Mayor promises action to help stop Plaza mobs
    By MIKE HENDRICKS and ERIC ADLER
    The Kansas City Sta

    Kansas City Mayor Sly James vowed today to put some kind of program in place by next weekend that would help put a stop to large, night-time gatherings of teenagers and pre-teens on the Country Club Plaza.

    James’ announcement came after he was in close proximity to a shooting Saturday night that saw three teens wounded and the mayor forced to the ground by his security team.

    However, James gave no specifics about what the plan might include. Whatever results will be worked out with the City Council after consultation with school officials, police and the juvenile court, among others.

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  163. 3:09 PM not everyones into getting shit faced drunk and acting like a bunch of morons and rutting chimps and cavemen thats why people go to The Plaza.

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  164. “We can’t expect that imposing a curfew is going to stop some 15-, 16-, 17-year-old from bringing a gun to anywhere,” he said at an afternoon news conference. “On the other hand, he should be able to expect parents not to have their 13-year-old children on the Plaza getting shot.”

    Mayor James is obviously in serious denial

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  165. I didn't see any white clergy or white community activists there.

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  166. These black flash mobs are occurring all across the USA. The media is reporting dishonestly about them, and the Obama administration is trying to cover them up. Everyone needs to read this:

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/581399/201108121905/Concealing-Black-Hate-Crimes.htm

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  167. Proud African-American8/14/11, 4:00 PM

    Even we educated "Blacks" HATE niggers! Niggers fuck up everything. I LIKE the Plaza. STUPID NIGGERS GOT's TO GO!!!!

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  168. Acorns don't grow far from trees. It's foolish to expect the nominal parents of these young 'gangsta-wanna-bes' to do anything - they're the ones responsible for nurturing and tolerating their children's antisocial behavior in the first place and it's too late to do anything about their hatred for mainstream society. These kids are the future residents of our prison system and everyone knows it. They've been raised with chips on their shoulders and they know no better than to perpetuate their own stereotypes.

    It should be remembered that there are hundreds of thousands of black teenagers who did NOT go wilding on the Plaza last night. Let's not paint the entire black population of KC as responsible - just like white society has its white trash, black society has its black trash, and what better way for these disaffected people to stick it to the white man than to rampage and bring their ghetto attitude and violence to to an area that represents all the affluence they will never have? This is nothing more than a big "Fuck you" to people whom they perceive to be their oppressors, as they've been taught at home.

    The 'kid gloves' attitude of the press - I am stunned that KC's 'newspaper of record' doesn't have the balls to even say that these kids are black - and politicians just confirms that an entire city is in helpless, hand-wringing denial.

    This is race-based rioting, pure and simple and if a curfew can't fix it, then a "shoot to kill" policy is sad but necessary. This is the only language some people understand.

    Innocent white people aren't the black's enemy. Blacks are.

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  169. Mayor Nutter

    The first is, this nonsense must stop. It must stop. If you want to act like a butthead, your butt is going to get locked up. And if you want to act like an idiot, move, move out of this city. We don’t want you here anymore. First, I want to apologize. I want to apologize to all the good, hard-working, caring people here in this city, and especially our good young people, here in Philadelphia. But I have to tell you this morning, that I am forced by the stupid, ignorant, dumb actions of a few, that we will announce tomorrow actions that we will take that, unfortunately, will affect many here in our city.

    Parents, get your act together. Get it together. Get it together right now. You need to get hold of your kids before we have to. Parents who neglect their children, who don’t know where they are, who don’t know what they’re doing, who don’t know who they’re hanging out with, you’re gonna find yourselves spending some quality time with your kids, in jail, together. Together.

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  170. maybe a bunch of white kids should flash mob at the bus stop on 39th and troost and we can arm them with guns?? but wait the mayor will probly say that white kids know better!!! while for the AA community it is no night hoops not enough programs to occupy their time.. even white trash kids dont act this horrible

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  171. Nutter . .

    Pull your pants up and buy a belt, because no one wants to see your underwear or the crack of your butt. Nobody. Buy a belt. Buy a belt. Nobody wants to see your underwear. Comb your hair. And get some grooming skills. Comb your hair. Running round here with your hair all over the place. Learn some manners. Keep your butt in school, graduate from high school, go on to college so you can go and make something of yourself and be a good citizen, here in this city. And why don’t you work on extending your English vocabulary. Extend your English vocabulary beyond the few curse words that you know, some other grunts and grumbles and other things that none of us can understand what you’re saying. And if you go to look for a job, don’t go blame it on the white folks, or anybody else. If you walk in somebody’s office with your hair uncombed and a pick in the back and your shoes untied and your pants half down, tattoos up and down your arm, on your face, on your neck, and you wonder why somebody won’t hire you. They don’t hire you because you look like you’re crazy. That’s why they’re not hiring you.

    So, you do those things, and act like you got some sense, and you’d be surprised what opportunities will open up to you. That’s what was on my mind. That’s all I’ve got to say.

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  172. Tony doesn't post on Sundays much. This is all just a result of what happened last night. Not really news.

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  173. Editor (4:16): Some time ago the Pitch reported the Star is less likely to report negative stories that involve blacks than they are to report negative stories that involve whites. One of their reporters was quoted (anonymously) as saying, "Every day is Groundhog day when it comes to people of color."

    You make an excellent point. This is race based rioting. It should be prosecuted as a hate crime. Heaven knows if white kids were beating and robbing black people it would be treated as one.

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  174. YOU BET YOUR ASS THIS IS NEWS AND THE MAYOR BETTER DO SOMETHING NOW.

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  175. Calm down. The Mayor's press conferences aren't gonna do shit.

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  176. This is nothing new it happened last year, a youth forum was held at police headquarters..... nothing happened no follow up no action plan

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  177. 4:52 Tony doesn't post on Sundays much.

    Guess it really isn't that important to him. Oh wait he doesn't like the Plaza either and all those condo dwellers down there I forgot.

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  178. Well I'm bored I posted my 50 comments here on this thread time for a break.

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  179. 3:05 I never said ALL black people are violent. But I will reiterate where there is a sizable black population, there will be higher than normal incidences of violence. It is undeniable. I have nothing against non-violent black (or any other) people. I don't care if they collect cans for a living so long as they leave everybody else alone. Just yesterday I was driving down 74th & Forest and got fucked with by a group of young black men and women simply because I was driving down the street and am white. I have so many stories of my experiences on Troost. Pick a place where there are poor white people like say Pittsburg,KS or Lexington,MO. Walk down any street that is obviously lower income. You will not get fucked with if you are minding your own business. Editor, it is noted that thousands of black kids did not raise hell on the Plaza last night. But that's not good enough. Hundreds did. Zero white, Mexican, Asian, Polynesians, or any other race than black did. It's like Chris Rock says about black people being proud they haven't been to prison. You're not supposed to go to prison! This head in the sand approach is not helping anybody, black people in particular. You are right about the media. I do love it when they are looking for a suspect and describe him if they leave out the skin color then you know they were black

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  180. "Mayor Discusses Plaza Shooting". Where's that video?

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  181. Geneticists like Steven Pinker believe that blacks have more genes for aggression. That blacks are about 12% of the population and commit about 60% of the violent crime is in part genetic.

    


"The Truth of Interracial Rape in the United States"



    2005 DOJ Study:



    "In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while less than ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man."



    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368


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    "Blacks do have more genes for aggression. Read the book 10,000 Year Explosion."



    Yep.





    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_10,000_Year_Explosion

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  182. Comment from KMBC thread

    "I am sorry to hear that you got slammed to the ground by your bodyguards Mr. Mayor. Hope it was your head that hit the pavement first! Maybe, it helped knock some sense into you!"

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  183. August 13, 2011: KC Eyes Philly's New Curfew For Plaza
    May 9, 2011: Police Respond To Hundreds Of Teens On Plaza
    April 12, 2011: Police: Groups Of Teens Still Gathering On Plaza
    April 14, 2010: Police Chief, Councilman Clash Over Plaza Tactics
    April 13, 2010: Police To Plaza: We Have A Plan
    April 13, 2010: Police: 700 To 900 Involved In Plaza Disturbance
    April 12, 2010: Flash-Mob Event May Have Led To Plaza Melee

    Duh!

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  184. And the hits keep coming

    "It might be inevitable that the next shooting at the plaza will be by a white person with a concealed permit defending his/her family from these mob of kids which will then be twisted as a hate crime and so called activists like Alonso Washington dressed in his best Harold penner suit calling peace and end to racism. If highland properties does not do anything, the plaza days could be numbered."

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  185. I like these comments. They're more fun and funnier than anything else in KC.

    You fuck nuts crack me up.

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  186. Let's not forget what happens next summer in KC. The All-Star game is here. People from all over the world will be here. Most of them at some point will go to the Plaza. And look what awaits them. The tourists will then go back to the four corners of the world and tell their friends how they feared for their lives while simply trying to take in some sights or get something to eat. This will forever be their memories of this city. In an effort to avoid anything resembling racism we are going to let the nicest part of the city go to hell.

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  187. I agree with you totally 6:43. But what are we supposed to do. The Mayor hasn't even said anything solid. He doesn't have any kind of plan.

    So what are we supposed to do about it. Some of the suggestions on here are just stupid. Some of them make sense. What if a 9pm curfew doesn't work? Then what?

    These are serious questions that we need to ask. And right now nobody is answering.

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  188. This is from KCPD CSTAR Program.

    Accurate and timely information can come from a variety of sources within the community, such as community group meetings or even individual contacts with citizens during an officer’s daily tour of duty.

    Rapid Deployment of Resources –
    Using community resources will only augment our combined efforts to reduce crime and disorder. Examples include churches, schools, and community mentoring programs.

    Effective Tactics – Oftentimes a strategy that succeeded in one area may not succeed in another.

    Relentless Follow-up and Assessment


    Well I guess that did not work.

    Oh well looks good on paper.

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  189. Give the mayor a break, let him develop his plan, consult with city attorneys and kick it around for a few days. WHat do you think he is... the kid at McDonalds fast food window?

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  190. Back from taking your pills radio man? You make demands of Kansas City all the time but in this argument you have no stones. You're worse than Tony. You're a suburban loser who complains all day but then a coward when things really get tense.

    You don't care about Kansas City, Missouri.

    You suck.

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  191. I agree with you in a sense, but this has been going for over a year. It's nothing new. The Mayor is new, as of April, but this should have been dealt with so much sooner. The Police Chief knew about this and should have worked with City Hall last year.

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  192. Do you know what they would have called the Plaza riots last night had it been raining?



    Gorillas in the Mist.

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  193. Sly James is completely ghetto and so is his son who, like a retard (or, rather, a typical black person, who has an average IQ of 75) goes around and tells whites he'll get him fired because "yo, check it, my dad's da Mayor!!! He'll can yo ass!!!"

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  194. Kansas City a Safe Haven to Crime and the Criminal.

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  195. Make a new PC or Xbox game called Thugsville. Where criminals run the town.

    Oh don't need that, Just turn on TV and watch the Kansas City news.

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  196. I would buy that game.

    FUCK YES.

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  197. I have a license and I will carry concealed at the plaza from now on.

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  198. Yeeeaaa, I'm the 200th comment!!

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