Tuesday, January 05, 2021

TKC TUESDAY QUESTION: HOW LONG UNTIL EMBATTLED INDEPENDENCE CENTER INEVITABLY SHUTS DOWN?!?

Optimists might argue that a shut down isn't inevitable and measures to chase away rambunctious youngsters might help to save the mall from the precipice of oblivion.

And polka music could also make a comeback to the pop charts . . . However unlikely. 

Accordingly . . . 

SOCIAL MEDIA SKEPTICS SEEM TO THINK THAT INDEPENDENCE CENTER IS DOOMED!!! AND SO WE'RE TAKING BETS: HOW LONG UNTIL SHUT DOWN???

Consider the recent chaotic scene before making a prediction that'll only provide disappointing on either side of a correct guess . . .  

Even with officers patrolling the Independence Center parking lot, police say suspects who were inside two vehicles fired more than 30 shots at each other around 2:15 Monday afternoon.

Many shoppers left the mall to find crime scene tape surrounded their cars. Police carried car seats to families whose vehicles were damaged and located inside the crime scene tape. “It is still definitely very scary that it happened while we were here whether it be inside or outside,” a shopper said.

Police found a man who was shot in the head inside one of the bullet riddled vehicles they believe was involved in the shooting. He was taken to the hospital and is expected to survive. “That person unbelievably has non-life-threatening injuries,” the Independence Police Department Public Information Officer said.

More deets in these links . . .

KCTV5: Independence Center extends curfew, owner coming into town to address recent violence

Fox4: Independence Center extends 3 p.m. teen curfew to seven days a week after parking lot shooting

KCTV5: Shoppers react to continued violence following Monday shooting outside Independence Center

Developing . . .

70 comments:

Anonymous said...

Why talk about the mall closing down? It would be more productive to talk about ways to keep it open and help the community engage young people so they didn't commit gun violence at the mall.

KC Jerky said...

That doesn't sound like any fun at all.

Anonymous said...

It will be gone by June.

Anonymous said...

^^^^ OUCH.

Anonymous said...

"... more productive to talk about ways to keep it open and help the community engage young people so they didn't commit gun violence at the mall."

Talk to their lame parents for raising fine young men.

Anonymous said...

Bring them puppies and ice cream with sprinkles?

https://redice.tv/news/black-mob-violence-sweeps-malls-nationwide said...

7:47 I think it will last a little longer than that, but, no doubt, it is moribund and reeks of death.

The idea that a "curfew" will work with the "Protected Class" is a joke. Curfews only work for mr. mayor when he destroys local business' in the name of his masters in Peking and Washington DC with hopes of a "Great Re-Set" into a utopian, Socialist world where no one has to work and we all sit around watching Whoopie on "The View" to get our news.

If in fact, the "Curfew" is enforced, then there will be "No Justice, No Peace" marches by the lazy ass parents who don't want their reprobate, thug kids around bothering them when they are home watching World Star and out "Clubbing" on the tax payer dime.

SOMEONE has got to keep an eye on these churren and it is NOT going to be the parents.

The past is prologue.

https://redice.tv/news/black-mob-violence-sweeps-malls-nationwide

Anonymous said...

Close it and turn it into a prison annex to house the troublemakers. They already seem to like it there.

Anonymous said...

Haven't shopped there in years, might be time to go back and see what's left now.

Anonymous said...

Independence Mall is currently on life-support and will soon be listed as a Covid-19 death like Bannister and Blue Ridge Mall before it.

Anonymous said...

Just bulldoze the place and let the gangbangers shoot it out in Swope Park.

Anonymous said...

The only thing that can be done to save that mall is to paint large Black Lives Matter on the floors. Shut you Racists.

Anonymous said...


I don't know how long the Center can survive but I think people should sue the owner for not keeping a safe environment for shoppers and for letting a racist store go in that promotes violence and hate. Just stay away from there. Another store or stores that promote hate is TJ Maxx, Home Goods Marshall's and Sierra Trading. Their CEO has put out a letter supporting the ACLU and everything black leaving out any white organizations. It's disgusting, and racist. You can read about it on the TJ Maxx web page just click on the message from the CEO.

Anonymous said...

Where is the parking lot camera video's. Should get something from that. Time to do real police work. In the mean time let those who shot, brag about it and be hailed as heroes - many kudos. This is something that they can show the grandkids someday. Be someone!

Anonymous said...

Attempt English.

Anonymous said...

“Rambunctious youngsters” is not the noun/ adjective most of us would use to describe these children!

Anonymous said...

Not long, the discrimination suits will do it in.

The curfew will be a gold mine with every Demetrius and shaniquas vying to get cuffed and arrested so they can claim their feelings were hurt and weren't doing nothings.

Segregation worked before and will work again.

DINT DO NUFFIN said...

This aint fair crackers!

Anonymous said...

2 months, and OAK PARK has 7 months. Enjoy the rewards of overblown "Civil Rights" laws and rules to allow killings, violent protest, destruction of property, loitering, harassment of customers, The real and reverse hatred and racism against non blacks and the complete destroying of everything by people that can't do anything more than destroy everything around them. Go out and throw gang symbols in your next family pic, crank up the NWA cd and score some weed. Then Ask yourself what part you or your kids played in all of this. Now be truthful, you do have pictures of your family members throwing gang symbols, on your facebook. Keep Bitchin'

Anonymous said...

Welcome to Biden's Social Justice America. This is just the tip of the stupidity iceberg.

Anonymous said...

7:59 well said and all of it is true

Anonymous said...

7:42 ^^ You did notice that the 500 mayhem fight wasn't 500 guns ? nor was it 500 people using a gun. It's a violence problem, not just the illegal guns thugs carry problem. Additionally, I have seen these twice at the Independence and 3 times at Oak park, never seen one gun used at these large crowd fights. I think you missed the whole problem. I stopped going to the Independence mall years ago because of these flash violent outbreaks. as Joe Biden said "Super Predators". Then Hillary elaborated. Know your History of these places.

Anonymous said...

It was a great mall about 3 years ago. It would be sad to see it close.

Anonymous said...

The mayor of Independence has a beautiful set of big, luscious tits.

Anonymous said...

^^It doesn't matter to you thumbdick!

Anonymous said...

" It would be more productive to talk about ways to keep it open and help the community engage young people so they didn't commit gun violence at the mall."

OK, here's the solution. Do not let black males under the age of 35 or above the age of 5 into the mall, period. That way the undisciplined, violent young black males who are making a mess of this once peaceful mall can commit gun violence somewhere else.

Anonymous said...


We will soon be in a civil war that will put an end to this shit. It will not turn out well for the urban scholars and hopefully most of them won’t make it out of their teen years.

Anonymous said...

2 types of shopping malls. The one the white people shop at and the one were the white people used to shop at.-- chris rock

Anonymous said...

The only thing those people understand is violence. Start shooting the troublemakers in the head. After the first 200 or so the rest will get it.

Anonymous said...

Was this another dimwit sponsored “candle light vigil”?

The despicable dimwit party is all about the violence to get their childish petty ways you know.

Anonymous said...

TIME TO REINSTITUTE SLAVERY AND TEACH THEM HOW TO BEHAVE

Anonymous said...

10:38 just make sure you shoot them with something bigger than 9mm, them kolored folk can survive shots to the head with anything less than 45 cal! Haha!

Anonymous said...

^^^ +10000000

Anonymous said...

Black people just can’t live by civilized rules, they behave more like monkeys than anything. What’s it gonna take to get these animals to understand their violent behavior is unacceptable? Even Africa doesn’t want them back so....

Anonymous said...

Black is whack

Anonymous said...

Boy 9:47 is right. Mayor Eileen Weir of Independence has some big ol titties. Really nice titties.

Anonymous said...

^^Which doesn't matter to your either thumbdick!

Anonymous said...

the surviving headshot victim had to be black ... tiny brains..

Anonymous said...

This mall opened in 1974, 46 years ago. It's way beyond it's prime in the day of on-line retailing. It needs to be changed from an indoor playground for the wild animals, and seriously downsized. Start now.

Socrates said...

First it was The Blue Ridge Mall, then The Landing Mall, then The Bannister Mall and now The Independence Mall. I don't know who closed the Metcalf South and The Metro North Malls but the violence and theft in TIM is rampant. The shootings are done by the ignorant black kids, male and female. When it closes they will say it is because of racists. The truth is it will be because of the black racists. I see the problem being that the black race does not take responsibility to live peacefully and productively in the general society. The race problem will continue until the blacks finally once and for all accept responsibility and do better. You can't do that living on handouts and welfare.

Anonymous said...

Socks old boy, the same problems wrecked Metcalf South as the others you list, but Metro North crashed because Mall Management was so poor and MDM Realty so stingy the Mall couldn't deal with any competition, so it was Zona Rosa that killed it.

Anonymous said...

Let them burn the damned thing and move on.

Anonymous said...

The 18th is MLK day. May as well cut their losses why wait ?

Anonymous said...

@ 12:59 - Metcalf South never had a gang or theft problem. It was too far to drive to for many in the inner city. It was only a year or two after Oak Park Mall opened that it closed as all the stores moved to the new mall when leases were up. The owner also owned Metro North and kept both up and in pristine condition until about six to ten years ago and closed them for redevelopment.

Anonymous said...

The canary in the coal mine was Indian Springs. The smart money got out of malls 30 years ago.

Anonymous said...

We need a good deadly pigment based virus.

Anonymous said...

One factor is common in all of these Mall having violence. Guess the Factor ? Same factor with our murder rate and violent crime rate. Weird

Anonymous said...

The Landing is still in existence but I have not been inside it in years at it became dangerous many years and lost its major retailers years ago. Bannister began the collapse of the suburban shopping malls in the region only followed by Blue Ridge Mall much later which was bulldozed to make room for a new Walmart. Independence Center had held on pretty well but two interior renovations took away the fun walking features and then the family friendly playground making it much less of a destination. What finally killed it was the demise of its Sears anchor and HUD putting ghetto rats in developments and apartments all along Noland Road. They used to flock to the 9ine Ultra Lounge but now they cause mayhem in other soft targets around the area. The only way to deal with it is a strong security presence including private security and police patrols. Independence ought to take some of its property tax revenues and build a police substation in the mall with a holding cell for handling HUDrat chillens that are infesting the place unsupervised.

Anonymous said...

Section 8 and HUD have destroyed America.

Anonymous said...

It's done now. Who in their right mind would go there ? Only thugs do.

Anonymous said...

^^lots of people pappy. The rest of the world isn't a scardey cat like you are. Maybe don't be such a pussy?

Anonymous said...

African Springs

Anonymous said...

There's no "engaging" these kids. It's a product of bad parenting. Society shouldn't have pick up or "engage" what is left of a broken home.

Anonymous said...

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I TOLD YOU BIDEN WOULD WIN...AND I WAS RIGHT!!!!!
NOW GET READY FOR DOUBLE KNOCKOUT IN GEORGIA YOU PIGS!
THEN WILL TRUMP GO TO JAIL? YOU BET YOUR BOOTS!~!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

.....and four dollar a gallon gas and the Dow at 15k oh boy being a member of the New World Order sucks.

Anonymous said...

Your being nice, we all called it N---er Springs.

Anonymous said...

CAREFUL GLOATY MCGLOATFACE 3:31 WHAT YOU THINK YOU WON YOU DIDNT IT IS GOING TO BLOW UP IN YOUR FACE

Anonymous said...

3:31 is an unemployed idiot.

Anonymous said...

He's probably busy beating his meat using tweezers.

Anonymous said...

Hey pussy boy at 2:51, ever seen a person die ? get carved up ? shanked ? head kicked in ? If you travel the world beyond your mom's basement you 'll learn a little common sense. Your post displays your simple lack of respect. Grow some balls and see the world. Mommy 's tits are full sharing, life life.

Anonymous said...

Guess what color he is before opening the link. https://fox4kc.com/news/26-year-old-man-charged-in-connection-to-parking-lot-shooting-at-independence-center/

Anonymous said...

A-women!

Anonymous said...

26 years old is not a minor. What is the curfew supposed to accomplish exactly?

Anonymous said...

Glad you see it that way. No blacks allowed. Solved it!

Anonymous said...

Damn cops and white nationalists need to stop egging these thugs criminals into doing crimes. I smell a frame up of innocent people. Maybe BLM and the panthers can solve this.

Anonymous said...

Once Independence Mall is bulldozed, the Kohl's, Target, movie theatre etc. by the mall will be next as the hood rats will go there to shoot and loot.

Anonymous said...

This is sad. This used to be a great mall especially during the early 2000's up until about 2011-2012. It still had some great shops but with online shopping expanding going into a mall became unneccesary. The less than desirable crowd hanging out at this one was even more of a reason to stay away. I still like shopping at stores such as Target, Marshall's, TJ Maxx, Home Goods, etc. but they are easy to get in and out of and offer an experience online shopping does not. These are also stores where loitering is next to impossible to do due to a lack of space and lack of other things to do inside them other than legitimately buy things. Thankfully these stores are not appealing for trouble makers for that reason.

Anonymous said...

This is really too bad. I do most of my shopping online but occasionally enjoy shopping at Dillards, Macy's and the Buckle here. Of course bad apples ruined it for everyone. The Walmart off 40 hwy is the same. Too many bad apples there too.

Anonymous said...

People like to shop online for more than just convenience. A lot of the time people don't want to deal with the clientele that frequent these places. It's just like some people getting carry out at certain restaurants because they don't want to deal with families who bring in their annoying kids all the time. I do not blame them.

Anonymous said...

Do what Bannister did and Bulldoze it then build another Cerner campus. That will keep the trouble makers away for good. Everyone knows trouble makers hate anything to do with IT and learning.