Sunday, May 03, 2020

Kansas City 'Cancel Rent' Coming Soon?!?

More advocacy from KC Tenants and renewed demands for politicos to prevent court actions .. . Read more:

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Hide Transcript Show Transcript PROBLEMS. BIANKA: TEA FACES A NEW BATTLE -- SHE'S OUT OF WORK BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC -- TIANA. AS PART OF KC TENANTS, SHE'S URGING THE GOVERNOR TO CANCEL RENT AND MORTGAGE PAYMENTS. HE SAID HE WOULD EVALUATE IT IF IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

No "cancellation".
Merely, "postponement".

Read the fine print kiddies. You don't pay $1000/rent for June thru Sept..
You pay $4000 October 1.

Anonymous said...

Either pay the rent or move. Not that difficult a concept. Neither the mayor nor the governor has an option to "cancel" rent. As noted, postponement of rent simply kicks the can down the road. Failure to pay rent at one location will hind future attempt to rent. The rhetoric of Quinton Lucas isn't help the black community.

Anonymous said...

this is what makes me think things will devolve into a true depression.

Kansas Scout said...

Not even legally possible. At some point it becomes a "taking" and the City would become financially liable. The tenants would still be liable and the debt deeper. Its a criminal offense to deliberately do the run outs without paying your rent. If this happens, and it won't, it will only make things worse.

Anonymous said...

These people need to cut back on cigs, vaping, booze, tattoos, etc and pay as much as they can toward their rent. 536 is right, and it’s gonna be easier to pay $1000 now than $4000 in a few months.

Anonymous said...

Landlords seem to all be the same.

It's a given that they're not a charity but why are they all obnoxious?

Anonymous said...

Where is Bernie's check book when all the pinkos need it ?

Anonymous said...

Short of declaring martial law, it is very doubtful that any level of government has the authority to alter or void existing private contracts. Maybe martial law is what TenantsKC want, but only if they get to be the generalissimos

Anonymous said...

Rent war coming to compete for people with secure jobs.

Anonymous said...

NO governor, county exec, or mayor has the power to cancel rent or mortgage payments for any landlord or mortgage company located out of the state. In those cases, it's considered interstate commerce, and only the feds can play in that arena. As many landlords and lenders (and landlords' lenders) are located in another state, it's an unworkable no-go that doesn't even deserve debate on a local level.

Anonymous said...

No we don't do a credit check for new tenants; we don't need to do a credit check. The agent will do the credit check. Prior to handing over the key -- 1st months rent, last months rent, deposit equal to one months rent and agent fee equal to one months rent. For a $1200 unit, $4800 cashiers check prior to handing over the key. The "$200 move in" is dead. Thank KC Tenants and Quinton Lucas for the new world.

Anonymous said...

If you lost your job, and your landlord is not working with you, don't pay rent. Save what you can because ultimately you will have to move at some point. Let them file an eviction while looking for another place to live. Ask for a continuance or two when the court date arrives. At this point the courts will be swamped by everything that has been put on hold the past 60 days. When court arrives the court will enter a judgement based on the contract. If you still have no place to stay,appeal the judgement and request a trial. Seek a few continuances. Yes eventually you will have to pay what you owe but you can dam well tie up the landlord for a bit with court.

Anonymous said...

Generally in Missouri, an appeal may be taken only from a final judgment. A judgment is rendered when a writing signed by a judge and denominated "judgment" or "decree" is filed. Rule 74.01(a). A final judgment is one that disposes of all issues, claims and parties. In the absence of a final judgment, the appeal is premature. A judgment that disposes of fewer than all parties or claims may be made final for purposes of appellate review, if the trial court makes an express determination that there is “no just reason for delay.” Rule 74.01(b). In the absence of this express determination, the appellate court has no jurisdiction. Bi-State Development Agency v. Peckham, Guyton, Albers & Viets, Inc., 747 S.W.2d 332, 334 (Mo. App. 1988).

In civil cases, the judgment becomes final thirty (30) days after the entry of the judgment if no timely motion for new trial is filed. If a timely motion for new trial is filed, the judgment becomes final at the expiration of ninety (90) days after the filing of the motion or, if such motion is passed on at an earlier date, at the later of: 1) thirty (30) days after the entry of judgment; or 2) disposition of the motion. Rule 81.05(a).

In criminal cases, the judgment is final when the motion for new trial is overruled, allocution given, judgment and sentence entered in accordance with the jury verdict, and sentence is imposed. State v. Welch, 865 S.W.2d 434 (Mo. App. 1993). In cases where no sentence is imposed, there is no right of appeal. State v. Lynch, 679 S.W.2d 858 (Mo. banc 1984).

Anonymous said...

In Missouri the notice of appeal is filed with the clerk of the trial court no later than ten (10) days after the judgment becomes final. Rules 30.01(d) and 81.04(a).

The form and contents of a notice of appeal are contained in Form 8-A for both criminal and civil cases. Rules 30.01(e) and 81.08(a). See Appendix A. At the time of the filing the notice of appeal with the clerk of the trial court, a docket fee of $70.00 or forma pauperis finding by the trial court must be filed. Rules 30.01(d), 81.04(c); section 488.031. The appellant shall also serve a copy of the notice of appeal on all other parties to the judgment. Rule 81.08(d).

The notice of appeal must specify the parties taking the appeal, the judgment or order appealed from, the court to which the appeal is taken and must be signed. Rules 30.01(e) and 81.08(a). The clerk of the trial court shall give notification of the filing of the notice of appeal by mailing copies to all parties to the judgment other than the party or parties taking the appeal. Rules 30.01(h) and 81.08(d).

In accordance with this Court's Special Rule 300(a), in addition to filing the notice of appeal, the appellant in a civil case must file a Civil Case Information Form using the form attached to the Rule. See Appendix B.

In a criminal case, the appellant must file the Criminal Case Information Form. See Appendix C. The appellant must also file a copy of an appeal bond if appellant has been released on bond pending appeal. These documents are to be filed with the notice of appeal in the trial court and forwarded to the Court of Appeals.

Anonymous said...

And when it's over goes on ones credit rating.

Anonymous said...

Um because they have investors that are on the phone all the time yelling at them.

Anonymous said...

Good strategy. You know the laws well.

Anonymous said...

To wordy for a lay person. I like 12:40 summary

Anonymous said...

12:44 and 12:45 - Nice. Now give us a short synopsis of admiralty law. That will be more of a challenge.

Anonymous said...

the law will be relevant unless it becomes a tsunami. then, emergency morality will click in. hence, it's not cut-and-dried under a worst-case scenario.

a summer rebound from premature opening, a second wave in the fall, an economic death spiral? yes, there's still a finite probability of an unstoppable emergency that throws a wrench into conventional legal outcomes.

Anonymous said...

The landlord has no incentive to continue to allow a renter to stay in the residence unless the renter is paying rent. Neither the feds nor the state can obligate one person to house another person...

Anonymous said...

507, roberts might say it's just a form of taxation.

Anonymous said...

Evictions now. They can move to California.

Anonymous said...

This isnt a good strategy. What have they accomplished when the goal was to stay in the property? Going to any Court in Kansas City, Jackson County is a nightmare. 12:40's comment only works in the best of circumstances. It cost money to defend in court. If youre complaining about not having any, court isnt the way to go and youll have a judgement on public record and your credit.

Anonymous said...

Appeals cost money and youd better know how to prepare a legal brief and make the arguments.