Sunday, April 05, 2020

TKC READER: CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC JUST PROVED ARGUMENT FOR AMERICAN SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE!!!



Quick note with facts to back it up from one of our BEST & BRIGHTEST TKC READERS:

Citizens who lost health coverage in past 2 weeks due to economic collapse:

USA 3,500,000
Australia 0
Belgium 0
Canada 0
Chile 0
Denmark 0
Finland 0
France 0
Germany 0
Greece 0
Hungary 0
Italy 0
Japan 0
New Zealand 0
Norway 0
Portugal 0
S Korea 0
Spain 0
Sweden 0
Turkey 0
UK 0
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You decide . . .

50 comments:

Anonymous said...

Billionaires should be the single-payer.

Anonymous said...

NO.

Anonymous said...

Might be the reason someone jumped off their balcony at 4700 Madison a while ago. R.I.P.

Anonymous said...


HA HA HA HA Ha HA... Now this is funny! How many lost insurance to Obama care and had to pay a penalty if they didn't get Obama care???? Dictatorship???? YES IT WAS! How many small business went under due to Obama care socialized medicine?

I'll be the first... I lost insurance due to Obama and when I did get insurance I paid waaaay more for less coverage!

There use to be coverage for the uninsured and Obama took that away too! Remember Truman East?????? You democrats did this deal with it.

Anonymous said...

^^^ Sorry, nobody believes blaming Obama for coronavirus. That's a Trumper non starter. Now, pay for my manicure! It's covered by Cuomocare!!!

Anonymous said...

Ah yes the wonderful and affordable mortgage sized payments of Obummer Care!

Anonymous said...

Italy has whole country healthcare and we all saw how well that worked.

Anonymous said...

Libtards abound.

Anonymous said...

Socialist healthcare isn't the sweet dream all think it would be. How are you all going to like paying 40 to 50% of your check every pay period in taxes?

Anonymous said...

Germany had it since 1848 and it's worked well for them, even during two Depressions and two World Wars.

Anonymous said...

I have a friend in Italy and he says their health care sucks bad. He says a lot of those who died did so waiting to be approved for treatment. Everything he claims has to be pre approved or approved later after diagnosis before you get the proper care. Plus it differs by region he claims. Medical facilities are considered to be adequate for any emergencies, some public hospitals are overcrowded and under-funded. Public finances are constrained by high levels of government debt. So what we hear about Italy being so great isn't all true in all areas.

Anonymous said...

Germany is another country all claim is so great for health care. All workers contribute about 7.5 percent of their salary into a public health insurance pool. Employers match that 7.5 percent contribution.
Health care industry experts in the United States say the German system is a good example of an employer-based model of medical insurance.

“No one pays more than two percent of their family income for out-of-pocket health care costs” in Germany, said Robin Osborn, director of the International Health Policy and Practice Innovations program at The Commonwealth Fund.

“And if you’re sick, if you’re chronically ill, it’s one percent. No one goes bankrupt in Germany because of medical care costs,” she said.

But Osborn does not recommend the U.S. copy Germany’s or any other country’s health care system and adopt it here.

If it's so great elsewhere then why wouldn't' we want it here? The answer is we get better treatment options if we can afford it and the Germans don't.

Anonymous said...

3.5 million lost insurance how again?

Unless they were fired or their place of work permanently closed then they still have insurance. Did a Bernie bro come up with this nonsense?

Unknown said...

It proved the exact opposite. Centralized medicine failed. While local hospitals wanted the develop tests kits, the FDA central planning politburo said no. This idea that a pandemic could happen sooner or later is not new. Yet, the central planners forgot to have basic protective gear on hand for medical staff. Why would we centralize healthcare even more and reward failure?

Anonymous said...

"If it's so great elsewhere then why wouldn't' we want it here? The answer is we get better treatment options if we can afford it and the Germans don't."

And wouldn't you think Germans can get better treatment options if they can afford to pay for them?

Anonymous said...

"3.5 million lost insurance how again?

Unless they were fired or their place of work permanently closed then they still have insurance. Did a Bernie bro come up with this nonsense?"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-news-us-health-insurance-obamacare-trump-unemployment-latest-a9444566.html

Super Dave said...

Germans pay app 20% of their check to cover pension and healthcare in Germany. Then there is all the the taxes which is added to that such as normal income tax like we have here.

So if Americans are willing to pay out app 20 dollars per per every hundred earned for health care then maybe we could have the care some of you think we want. So let's say you make 40K a year and pay 20% of that to Social Security and Medicare you're forking out 8k a year or app 600 a month for health and retirement.

Anonymous said...



6:55 said Germany's socialist healthcare worked well for them in WWI and WWII.

Bahahahaha..........seriously; their socialist healthcare was so lousy it helped Adolf Hitler take power; the country suffered 10 million deaths, bombed to the stoneage, people starved, Germany was divided in two and occupied for 50 years.

Yeah, great example of socialist healthcare.

Notice you didn't include Russia and China which also have socialist healthcare. Wuhan Corona Virus anyone?

Anonymous said...

NO! No to single payer!

Private insurances should continue to skim at least 20% of all health care dollars for their own needs.

That 20% should continue to be sent on TV and print advertising. On sponsoring sports teams and events. On industry conventions and sales staff. On Washington DC and state lobbyists to convince the government to not regulate them and allow higher deductibles and less coverage. On executive perks like private jet travel and bonuses. On stock buybacks. To shareholders as dividends.

Some of the other 80% can be spent to employ bureaucrats whose jobs are to decline medical claims and coverage and shift those costs to customer and bill them.

The last thing we need to do is spend most of our health care dollars on actual health care costs and needs.

Anonymous said...

And yet you're blaming socialist healthcare for Germany's losing World War II? Beyond weird.

"So if Americans are willing to pay out app 20 dollars per per every hundred earned for health care then maybe we could have the care some of you think we want. So let's say you make 40K a year and pay 20% of that to Social Security and Medicare you're forking out 8k a year or app 600 a month for health and retirement."

And yet, since that eliminates copays and insurance hassles and provides a decent pension, that doesn't sound too bad. Weird.

Anonymous said...

We already pay more than any other industrialized country AND get less for all that money spent than other countries. We are suckers.

With a single payer system, we would spend less overall AND cover more people and medical needs.

Anonymous said...

^^^No you wouldn't in the end what Dave says is just for health care only and he rounded it off, it's actually more than that. So if you're were having to to pay out 50% and more of your check every pay period you might change your mind real fast. And like he points out that's on a very low salary, a lot of people make more than that. Look what you would pay out if you made $80.000 a year. $1200 a month alone and more even. American isn't Germany and you all ain't going to want to live like the Germans do.

Dr. Covfefe said...

All is under control. The numbers are going down, not up. 10M unemployed in just two weeks. Economy utterly destroyed. MAGA!

Anonymous said...

And yet Dave said that was for health care and retirement. Weird.

And while I like it here, I didn't notice Germans being all that deprived the times I was there. There may be homeless camps on the sidewalks like in LA and San Francisco, but I sure didn't see them.

Reality Speaker said...

And now for the rest of the story:

It is interesting that many folks from those countries listed with zero health care losses, choose to come to Western Countries, mainly the U.S. for their surgeries and other serious health issues.

Couldn't possibly be because our private health care and insurance structure results in BETTER MEDICAL CARE could it?

Anonymous said...

And yet many Americans are traveling overseas for their surgeries. Weird.

Anonymous said...

Only works in a homogeneous society, just like democracy.

Anonymous said...

I have purchased my own insurance for longer than most of you have been alive. I never waited on someone else to tell me I needed to nor did I wait on someone else to provide it for me. Maybe some people need to due more than wait on others. Hard to swallow reality of a person complaining, yet they have an overabundance of toys and playtime instead.

Anonymous said...

The thing that keeps the US from getting a National Healthcare system is simple.

Under every National Healthcare system, a Doctor only earns about the same as a College Professor!

And THAT is the reason we will never have such a system.

Anonymous said...

The easiest way to get to single payer is for Americans to just stop paying their medical bills. As long as they continue to go bankrupt by paying, then the system will continue as it stands.

Anonymous said...

The USA has cities larger than some of these countries. The comparison is false and show nothing.

Anonymous said...

Nobody is advocating for a true NHS like England. Medicare for all / single payer is not about converting US doctors & hospitals into a VA government owned system.

It's getting rid of the for profit private insurance companies that suck dollars out of the system and provide zero in health care services.

Hospitals, clinics, doctors and nurses would all still work for their current owners.

Anonymous said...

During the World Wars in Germany the soldiers were treated first. The civilians mainly died.

Anonymous said...

False info from Super Dave...more claims. No citations.

Anonymous said...

THESE STUPID OBAMA JIGS COULDNT TAKE CARE OF THE MILITARY HEALTH CARE LET ALONE 360000000 people’s healthcare

Anonymous said...

Somebody is screaming in all caps.

Anonymous said...

^^^^ some trumpet who finally found out his blood pressure medicine is gonna keep him from even getting it up enough to masturbate.

Anonymous said...

8:38, the weird freak, just told a blatant lie.

Anonymous said...

FUCK YOU COMMY CUNTS

Anonymous said...

6:48: And yet if you Google "medical tourism," you'll see he didn't. Weird.

Anonymous said...

People with employer provided health plans who were laid off in the past month still have coverage under COBRA. Election and premiums are not due for a month after termination. They will be high, but if you have the virus it's money well spent.

Grip Madlock said...

They have Cobra if they choose to pay the mile high cost of it

Anonymous said...

9:23: And yet you obviously have no clue about what sudden unexpected unemployment can do to a family's finances. Not surprising but weird nevertheless.

Anonymous said...

It's interesting nobody actually defends the private insurance companies and their obscene spending on non-health care items. They are silent about bureaucrats that have to pre-approve your treatments and tell you which doctor or hospital you can use. In fact everyone that has had medical claims, also has a story about having to call and complain and fight against incorrect denials and wrong billings.

All conservatives do is yell "socialism" which is a really crappy arguement, although it's not surprising since private insurance company actions are often indefensible.

Mo Rage said...


The only, only Western, industrialized nation to NOT have universal healthcare.

But we're supposed to be the smart ones.

Anonymous said...

Stupid. When you compare Countries of little population to one with large populations. Toss in all the Welfare monkeys and illegals bleeding us dry. Notice that those that comment are always low level achievers and those that pay little in taxes. Try making over 6 figures and see who gets fucked. That 6 dollars an hour doesn't make you an expert , a patriot or a tax payer. Just a subsidized pussy that types the cries of a lazy welfare fuck.

Anonymous said...

^^^ Typical GOP ignorant insulting selfish racist reaction. It's all they got.

This is why Republicans are going to lose across the board in November. Bigly.

Anonymous said...

"Notice that those that comment are always low level achievers"

And yet here you are. Weird.

Anonymous said...

Throw Free Cheese to you Welfare Rats and you'll eat until you want more free. Never read a post that includes that a person needs to work harder or be more responsible.

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