Friday, January 10, 2020

KANSAS CITY LEGACY OF REAL ESTATE RACISM EXPOSED YET AGAIN?!?!



This morning we take a quick peek at a SPONSORED CONTENT DOCUMENTARY that covers familiar ground and doesn't really add much new to the discourse other than the fact that most media nowadays is merely promotional garbage . . .

Here's the premise of a clip funded by the AARP:

"During the Great Depression, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed into law a series of programs called the New Deal intended to rebuild the nation. Some of those programs encouraged discriminatory housing policies such as redlining, resulting in dilapidation of 85% of Kansas City’s black neighborhoods . . .

"Land of Opportunity is the story of integration in the Santa Fe Place neighborhood as one example in the fight for housing rights across America following the Great Depression."

Take a look:



You decide . . .

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

AARp has been left leaning for quite some time. They made quite a pretty penny from the Obama administration.

Anonymous said...

So tired of all the virtue signaling and brainwashing ...people are racist for good reasons, always have been always will be.

We are different, there is no denying the truth.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^And that would be relevant because... ? The documentary was very good but barely scratches the surface on a history of government-sponsored and often government-mandated housing discrimination, which, by the way, is still going on via gentrification.

Anonymous said...

^^^ +1 on 6:08. It's worth watching. Not everyone is familiar with Kc's history. This does a great job of showing the impact of local policies.

Anonymous said...

Maybe KCMO should back up all their talking with real action and have folks like Cordish set aside some percentage of their "luxury apartments" downtown for "affordable housing".
The taxpayers are already supporting Cordish projects, so this could actually be a "public" program. Maybe after smiley selfies Lucas finishes up with his Chiefs food bet with the Houston mayor, he can get right on this.
Diversity!
Inclusion!
Momentum!

Anonymous said...

^^^^ those apts downtown aren’t for people like you, whine all you want but if you’re poor or kolored forget about it, slies downtown is only for people with money moron, get over it.

Anonymous said...

6:14 they do have a “special” version of poor peoples apts down there, but poor means you only make around 40 or 50 thousand a year. There’s nevar gonna be section ape apts downtown so get it out of your dumbass head your kind are not and nevar will be welcome.

Anonymous said...

The Gubbmint should send all those wonderful Gentle Giants out to JoCo to live beside those fat assed "Karens" and "Beckys" who voted Democrat and see how they like it. Until that happens we can all stand by for more lectures on "Diversity" and what a 'strength' it is while in actuality suffering through the destruction and chaos that it brings in reality.

Anonymous said...

6:14 (#1): The policies weren't just local. FHA and VA loans were pretty much unavailable to black buyers, and housing developments that received FHA and VA construction loans were required to have racial restrictions. There is a lot of good material on this. A good starting point would be Richard Rothstein's 2017 "Color of Law."

Anonymous said...

I think each racial group should be proud of what makes them unique. It's fine to talk about diversity and getting along, but at the end of the day, the racial groups have different social ques, references and experiences. Blacks are most comfortable associating with other blacks because of a shared cultural experience and a common history of hardship. Most whites, even liberal virtue signaling whites, cannot offer any sort of genuine camaraderie. There cannot be any relationship built upon mutual respect when one party is looking upon the other party with a sense of pity, which is exactly what many whites, especially liberal whites, do. Self-respecting black folks don't need or want white pity.

Anonymous said...

Real estate segregation is making it extra difficult for whites to get section 8 housing in Overland Park.

Anonymous said...

10:45: You make some very good points, but I am white and have black friends whom I view as equal, and at least in one case, more than equal. It happens by getting to know each other.

Admit it. I'm assuming you're black. There are many black people you would avoid having as friends. Not because of their race, but because of their behavior. And if you think I'm going knocking on doors in white trailer parks looking for comaraderie, think again.

Anonymous said...

with jim crow laws & subsequent massive wave of the black migration, is it really a surprise restrictive covenants came about? at the turn of the 20th cent most Northern towns were all white, chicago had 3% black people, chicago in 1940 300,00, 1970 800,000. detroit 6,000 black ppl 1910, 120,00 blk ppl 1929. some weeks in chicago had 1000s of blacks arriving per day by trainm wgere they going to go and what they going to do? I suspect N white folks thot they had not signed up for that when they fought in the civil war. whites that fought in WWi came back to chicago and their jobs taken by recruited black laborers for less mney. Blacks were largely uneducated and unskilled compared to massive post civil war euro immigrants, who would get loans? This is how it played out, it was a cluster fuck. Should all the poor and huddled masses of euro immigrants in late 1800 & early 1900 have built the exodus of S black ppl housing, to be fair & nice?

Anonymous said...

Difference between a white Violent Criminal and a black criminal is merely the excuse for. You can shoot, hang, draw and quarter a white guy and I am not going to make an excuse, tear up my neighborhood, scream racist, blame history, lie for the POS or care that he/ she gets what they deserve. Now see what double standards some have. I don't expect anyone to house white people, give them checks or excuses. And you ?

Anonymous said...

i do not know if black folks are still waiting on that 40 acres and a mule, but how does knowing this help black people buy homes today or maintain a good credit score? buying a cheap house in KC does not really take much effort, even with a low paying job. 16 pregnant and guns can fuck that up for anyone.
How about banking? Always seemed arbitrary and a con that banks make folks pay off interest before the principle. Stupid chart those repayment charts, laid out precisely as if they were constructed with mathematical rational. Those can be reformed.

Anonymous said...

4:58-7:42: How could anyone argue with your extremely well reasoned and eloquently presented responses? You are truly a credit to the effort you expended to earn your GEDs.

Anonymous said...

^^^ on that note:
'In 2018, Hispanics achieved a net gain of 362,000 homeowners, according to the 2018 State of Hispanic Homeownership Report released this year by the National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals (NAHREP).

The report also found that from 2008 to 2018 Hispanics accounted for 39.6% of U.S. household formations and while Hispanics make up roughly 18 percent of the U.S. population, they accounted for 62.7 percent of net homeownership gains, as noted by a National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals' (NAHREP) 2018 report.

Sadly, the windfall hasn't been even across the demographic board. African-American homeownership has dropped to an all-time low, falling 8.6 percent since its 2004 height.'

So you all getting dumber while the latinos getting smarter!

Anonymous said...

8:21 you are going to have to get more than a box of crayons to prove your mettle.

Anonymous said...

interesting documentary about santa fe place.
Confused what the main point is if making this about the injustices of housing past/present. Do black folks want white neighbors b/c it will no longer be a segregated neighborhood and therefore increase property values? did middle class blacks want to be in neighborhoods with similar income levels not similar skin colors or they just wanted nicer housing and there was a lot of bullshit to go through for blacks with good incomes to find nicer housing and it was all in white neighborhoods? in 1950 47 black men were killed per 100,000 compared to 3.8 white men. so they were killing each other in much much much greater frequency in 1950 than white ppl then too.
once groups of mid & upper mid class black folks had enough income/influence to break redlining, was white flight a good or bad thing b/c it opened higher end residences more affordably to more black residents? the disgust for gentrification seems black folks do not want white neighbors, or they do not want their affordable neighborhoods to become not affordable? the points seem to conflict. those are some pretty nice houses with nice woodwork, currently not very affordable even the ones in not good shape. would black folks be pissed if white folks started moving back into santa fe place and would that be ironic?

Charles Whitman said...

40 Acres and a Mule. This was never a law. It was a suggestion by Gen William T. Sherman post Civil War, and there wasn't even a mule. This idea only lasted a couple of years, depending on which theory you believe. In any event, it was NEVER the law of the land. It is ridiculous to think you are "owed" that.

Anonymous said...

black people in KC do not walk around KC and think gee i want white people to be my neighbor! but that is exactly the premise of fixing the problem. Moving section 8, laws requiring acceptance of vouchers in established white suburbs is explicitly done b/c studies tell them that all black poor schools hinders black educational and economic development, b/c y'all a bad influence on each other. so isolated pockets of black folks being surrounded by white culture is supposed to good for black people. which part of that premise do you like? what is not going to happen in foreseeable future is building lower income, 1,000 sq ft homes in mission hills for 100K.

Anonymous said...

11:09, et al: If you were really interested, you could do some research on the questions you asked and assertions you raised.

But you're not.

Anonymous said...

11:19 :

Coons wouldn't know what to do with mule anyway.
They would fuck it or shoot it.

Anonymous said...

Great documentary..

No one mentioned scam predatory loan that striped homes from minorities from the 1980s to the present.

Folks that had owned homes for generations were tricked when scam lenders had loan officers fabricate loan documents forge signatures and switch fixed rates to adjustable rates fully aware of income of borrowers..

Used loans in schemes to sell to fha in scheme to recoup face amount of loans then raise payments then borrowers lost homes. Robo Notaries showed up taking loan docs promises of copies that never came then borrowers received switched forged loan docs.. or notaries stating borrowers appeared in front of them in another state hours away to sign scam loans...



Missouri changed law to non judicial foreclosures making it easy to foreclose in courts without due process...

Fabricated appraisals allegedly done by Newsomes and others for ameriquest mortgage long beach mortgage and secret preditory lender's allegedly secretly controled by james b. Nutter mortgage.

Then there was the j.c. Nichols manifesto.. plaza guy wrote up this in 1950 to control cities minority populations...and stop minorities from moving into certain neighborhoods.

Some of the folks in documentary allegedly know about nutter and early loans where he'd own even your bed until loan paid off allegedly.

Nutter located smart minorities like Edna Perry, the wimes , and others to sell homes to minorities and then get loans thru city wide mortgage and other lenders he controlled allegedly.

Lots of folks got homes then lost them.... crooked mokan title nation title and foreclosure attorneys in st. Louis and kc including infamous linda tarpley allegdly controlled to fabricate info to pass to courts to take homes allegedly.



This is another story that needs to be told....

Anonymous said...

The kid that produced the documentary is sorta cute. But anytime I hear complaints about restricted neighborhoods, I challenge with this: name any non-restricted area that is as nice or nicer than when it was developed. Unfortunately, a lot of non-Euro people, especially blacks, just ruin every area they infiltrate.

Anonymous said...

8:45, you so clever with your meaningless guilt tripping. right back at u fool: instead of expecting an answer in this forum, or from the documentary makers, you imply i am supposed to hunt down black people in the street, ask them, and think they will have a answer. maybe u have an answer and could tell us, but you don't and won't. I have done some research, which you believe is not good enough if i was interested, that is as far as i am going to go. i have spoken out for various groups of people who would never do the same for me and would certainly assume i never have for them, so i am trying not to do research and not give a fuck.

it was a finely presented documentary on santa fe place, but this is an event from history, presented with a dearth of context, and presented with what seems no conclusion. Particularly because it is not really about 'integration'. it is about the black woe.

30 million ppl in US in 1865, 92 million 1910. black woe was just as lost in the plains or chaos or hazy urge of self-fulfillment in the mythical land of opportunity as everybody else's.

Anonymous said...

i have washed a black homeless woman's hair in a bar bathroom. She starts yelling at me when i walk in to help her, instead of turning on my heel, i pull her coat away from her neck so it will not get wet, as she demanded, then i start pouring water over her head with a cup she had there, NOT GOOD ENOUGH! WASH IT LIKE YOU WASH YOUR OWN HAIR! So i roll up my sleeves and start lathering up her hair and washing it out. Then i left back to my table with my arms and sleeves dripping water. She comes out of the bathroom all happy.
SO WASH MY HAIR BITCH, THEN WE CAN TALK.

Anonymous said...

good will exists to have it beaten out of you.

Anonymous said...

6:00: And yet the research has been done for you. All you have to do is read it. Weird. The book the young man is holding is available from the library. It would be a start.

Anonymous said...

all i been doing is research for about a decade, probably more than you have ever done, and not just more about the black woe. the book probably doesn't have answers to my questions either, weird. Why should i again prioritize researching or listening to your woe over anyone else's. You condescending overstuffed trout.

Anonymous said...

i have had enough black friends to have listened to enough of their intellectualized black woe ad nauseam.

Anonymous said...

more in your line of thinking: if it is a start, for you or anyone else in KC, that is just sad and weird. redlining is at least decades old news, GUESS IT WAS NOT IN YOUR GED CURRICULUM. TWAT