Sunday, December 22, 2019

KANSAS CITY SUNDAY QUESTION: SHOULD CRITICS PRAY FOR PREZ TRUMP?!?



The topic of prayer and politics pushed to the forefront of the American agenda this week and punctuated an intense debate over impeachment.

In a scathing letter on White House stationary, Prez Trump doubted the sincerity of Speaker Pelosi's prayers.

And then a monumental rebuke from a massive American faith community slammed down on the Head Of State in a mannner far more important than progressive opposition.

Here's the best write-up we've seen on the right-wing betrayal and its implications . . . 

(Prez) Trump Is Freaked Out by Christianity Today’s Support for Impeachment - He should be.

Something to consider via insiders . . .

NO REPUBLICAN HAS WON THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT ENTHUSIASTIC EVANGELICAL SUPPORT SINCE PREZ EISENHOWER!!!

This Christian voting block is the foundation of the Republican Party and division here is a warming sign that there is, in fact, some weakness in the support for the Prez.

Yes, there will always be diversity of opinion in any group but WITHOUT ACTIVE ENDORSEMENT FROM EVANGELICALS, REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES LOSE THE WHITE HOUSE EVERY TIME. Don't believe it? Ask Prez Gerald Ford, Prez Bush I, Sen. Mitt Romney and Sen. John McCain.

The local connection . . .



Former Kansas City Mayor and faith leader Congressman Emanuel Cleaver, II doubled down on the sentiment and after impeachment noted that he does not hate the President and prays for the Commander-In-Chief.

From his letter this week:

"Impeachment, at least for me, is a stomach-churning experience. I do not hate this President. In fact, in my faith tradition, we are taught to pray for “kings and all those in authority.” Therefore, I pray for President Trump. When the day is spent, I kneel beside my bed and pray for our leaders and for the reconciliation of our nation."

Drilling down even further to the KCMO discourse -- Via his blog former newspaperman Bill Tammeus asks:

How should we be praying about impeachment, conviction?



His money line:

"In the case of national issues, whether that means war or unemployment or impeachment, I think prayer should be thought of not as a tool of demand but as a tool of exploration, of humility, of longing. We should be open to answers we don't expect. We should not assume we know the result for which we should be praying. Rather, we simply should put ourselves in God's way and listen."

And so we ask . . .

HAS THE IMPEACHMENT DEBATE CAUSED A MOMENT OF DOUBT AMONG FAITH COMMUNITIES OR IS PRAYER THE LAST REFUGE OF POLITICAL SCOUNDRELS?!?

For better of worse, the debate over faith and politics inspires the 2019 American Christmas given that this time of year is mostly consumed by chubby shoppers busying themselves with running up credit card debut in order to garner cheap Chinese junk.

You decide . . . 

41 comments:

Anonymous said...

Interesting.

But I think the real question here isn't about praying for the President. That's a matter of choice and personal preference between a person and God.

The real question is, should an elected official make their prayers public and part of their sales pitch to voters.

The answer on that is a resounding NO!

Anonymous said...

^^^^ Good comment.

But if that's true for Democrats it should also be true for Republicans who wear their faith on their sleeve and claim that God is on Trump's side.

Also a NO!

MKCC said...

I was inspired that our president hooked up with stormy daniels and playmate karen mcdougal around the time his wife was pregnant. glad my president was able to do some deep polling on these women without protection and come away clean.

Obviously he is a man of great faith. More power to him!

Anonymous said...

^^^ cheap shots all.

Just like immigration and border protection, the president wants to end abortion and that is the real reason the evangelicals support him. that's the greater evil that overshadows everything.

Anonymous said...

^^^^ Except the admonition of God to
"JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED"

Anonymous said...

Trumps not going anywhere. Get used to it.

Anonymous said...

^^^ Trump loses. If the Christians have given up on him. He's toast. Sorry that you love Trump more than God.

Anonymous said...

I pray Cleaver goes to heaven, after he pays of his loans.

Anonymous said...

Sad that none of you have considered the possibility that all of your politics and leaders just using religion to manipulate voters.

chuck said...

The pretense that Pelosi, Cleaver, Democrats all, are sincerely "praying for the President is the definition of preposterous.

Behind closed doors, since 2015, Democrats, the media, Hollywood and the Deep State have conspired, plotted and initiated moves designed to indict any Trump associate, trap any Trump associate (Perjury Traps), trick any Trump associate (Mike Glenn), slander any Trump associate in the media in the effort to illegally subvert the 2016 election.

Just the lies they told, the entire bunch of them, during the "Russian Collusion" hoax, from Adam Schiff, to Pelosi, to Cleaver, the media and the lies told under oath, by shitheelfucks like Brennan are TOO MANY TO COUNT.

But sure, let's pretend that we all now believe they are "Praying for the President."

Anonymous said...

I'm a Democrat, and concerned about the less fortunate and poor and struggling more then anything, and will now pray for Trump as well.

Oh is there Chiefs game today? We should pray for Mahomes too. That he makes many touchdown passes and leads us all to the promised land known as the Super Bowl.

Amen

Anonymous said...

Presidents come and go. We've had 45 of them so far.

Pray for the U.S.A.

Anonymous said...

“U.S. Attorney John Durham, who is conducting a criminal investigation into the origins the Russia probe and FISA abuse, is focusing in on former CIA Director John Brennan.“

Just the tip of the iceberg. The deep state is going down, this is what happens when a good man is president and has true intentions for the hardworking American people. The people that need prayers are behind all the greed, corruption and lies. They are everywhere in government, on both sides of the isle, they are all about to get a rude awakening!

Anonymous said...

^^^^ Who ever said the President was a good man?

I guess you're not one of the employees that he refused to pay over the years. Those spy games are all conspiracy theory trash. Politics is a popularity contest and this presidental troll has made too many enemies out of better people.

Anonymous said...

"...Republicans who...claim that God is on Trump's side." Doubt that's true. Give prominent examples.

chuck said...

The picture at the top of the page, is Antonio Ciseris "Ecce Homo" (Behold the Man) portrait of Jesus and Pontius Pilot, prior to the famous "Ablutions" trying to calm the populace before an out of control riot could take place.

Jesus had essentially started a bar fight in the Temple, knocking the shit out of people and turning over tables with money, because he (Remember, Jesus was a "Zealot" in the true sense of the word, a "Zealot" in the tradition of the Maccabees.) thought it disrespectful.

The Jews, languishing under the suzerainty of the Roman Imperium, were constantly rioting, revolting and testing the military in their efforts to remove Roman rule.

Roman rule depended upon cooperation from Jewish leaders. There was no great Roman army in Judea, only the threat to bring one if necessary.

So, who killed Jesus? The Jerusalem leaders saw Jesus, his followers, and interested crowds as a threat. He openly proclaimed the “kingdom” or “empire” of God and was called “king of the Jews” (Mark 15:2; Luke 23:2). This title is treasonous since only Rome could appoint or sanction kings in provinces; they had not sanctioned Jesus. So to protect their position as rulers against a potential threat, they ask Pilate to crucify Jesus.

It was, again, a bar fight. They broke the butterfly on the wheel in hopes of maintaining power, money and sinecure. Their political positions and political stations.

Finding yourself, in between and in disagreement with the Powers That Be, can result in a conspiracy, of interested power brokers, who, in the end, will NOT take Barabbus.

The shores of history, are strewn with the wrecks of empires. Many, if not most of those wrecks, were first weakened from within, by lies and criminal politicians who sought power for power's sake and constantly created fake hoaxes, conspiracies and narratives designed to keep them in power, at great cost to the nations they pretended so serve.

Cleaver, Schiff, Pelosi, the media, bureaucrats in Washington D.C., they are all liars.

They do NOT pray for the president, they pray for more power.

Anonymous said...


like any good Democrat "Catholic" --Pelosi supports free Obamacare drive-thru abortion mills

Anonymous said...

9:04 agreed, Trump is not going anywhere until he naturally passes away. Then he is going to Hell.

Anonymous said...

Byron was in the Raytown Coffee Shop this morning.

Anonymous said...

10:02 just because he didn’t pay you for sitting around all day watching gay porn.......

Who care's said...

Religion controls poor people.

Anonymous said...

10:46 (Wow you're a prolific little poster here today, aren't you): So you're offended that Nancy Pelosi believes women should be able to control their bodies? What a concept. And drive-through abortions? Aren't you getting a tad bit untethered from the fact-based universe?

Anonymous said...

Trump is the closest thing to an honest president we had since Kennedy.

Anonymous said...

Sure, because Christians want the party of abortion on demand in power.

How is your other brain cell doing?

Anonymous said...

Well, no.

Durham has said he is running a criminal investigation, and is investigating the illegal conduct of government officials who investigated Trump.

The more you know!

Anonymous said...

Up until the very day of birth, with no restrictions. At all.

She sure is some Catholic when it's convenient

Charlie Horse said...

When you prayed, God said Yes, No, or Wait until 2016. Now when Dimocrats pray for the demise of our President, God says No F'ing Way Retarded.

Byron Funkhouser said...

There is no god. Prayer is just squinting your eyes, & talking to yourself.

I've never understood how people who are "Pro-Life" can be Pro-Gun & Pro-Death Penalty. If a Catholic owns a hand gun is he allowed to take Communion? If he supports Capital Punishment?

After you men decide that women are not allowed to have abortions, women will continue to have abortions. It's called personal freedom & it's none of our business.


10:53 has a secret he's dying to share, but apparently, nobody cares about his conspiracy theory. I am NOT in a coffee shop in Raytown.

Anonymous said...


Bryon knows how to pray as he states "Prayer is just squinting your eyes, & talking to yourself."

The Cleave stated "Impeachment, at least for me, is a stomach-churning experience." Stomach-churning for KCMO residents is the Cleave not paying back his loans.

Anonymous said...


Bull Crap Cleaver. You have hated this president from the start now you are acting like Mr goody two shoes and YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN so stop trying to act the part. You are for abortion, money laundering, globalism, and socialism. Stupid Son of a bitch!

Anonymous said...

Jesus was killed over a bar fight, folks.

The Gospel According to Chuck Lowe.

Anonymous said...

Did the cleave evar apologize for trying to cause a race war with his race baiting over the Paseo? Didn’t think so. He is as racist as he accuses all white people of. I wonder if his boy mlk is praying over him now for all his sins he’s committed in the name of god and the money he’s stolen. By the way, do you people know that the cleave who claims to be the poorest congressman has over 7 million dollars in investments?

Anonymous said...

Chuck said: "Jesus had essentially started a bar fight in the Temple, knocking the shit out of people..."

Yeah, I missed that part of the gospels. Could you refer me to the passage about Jesus "knocking the shit out of people"? I did sees the "turn the other cheek" story, but not the knocking the shit out of people.

Up-Chuck makes me sick. Add one more topic to the list that he knows nothing about.

Anonymous said...

We're all still waiting for Trump to pay back his defaulted casino loans too.

Anonymous said...

4:30 you really are stupid aren’t you? Poor baby, he was speaking metaphorically, god you’re an idiot.

Anonymous said...

4:39 4:41 awwww chimpy, do some monkey shines for us or no bananas for you! Hahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

^^^^^Fanboy! You're back. We missed you. Did you get kicked out of Missy B's again?

Anonymous said...

Chimpy, Chimpy. It's good to see you try, but you never do this well. Stick to bananas lol

Anonymous said...

^^^^Did you work on that retort all night?

MDLQ said...

.......So we know the biggest abortionist is 'god'.
and all the jesus freaks praying to god to stop the abortions he causes......
the miscarriages, stillbirths, the birth defects......still continue......
just thank your .......all loving, all good, all sweet, and very compassionate
god.....trumPutin does! and DencePence too........
as they all file into the "Ovum" office and "Lay hands" on "HIM that the lord
has given us........."
What a HOLY LOAD OF SHIT..........
....Happy Festivus......from the "Rest of Us"..........

Anonymous said...

My favorite prayer, told to me by a revered boss, is: "Thank you, Jesus, for not making me believe in you so much I go nuts."