Wednesday, October 30, 2019

KANSAS CITY MAYOR QUINTON LUCAS: ANTI-VIOLENCE OR ANTI-GUN RIGHTS?!?!



Today's legislative push from Mayor Quinton Lucas played well inside of his bubble of supporters but might earn greater skepticism from hard-line advocates of Constitutional gun rights.

And so we ask:

IS MAYOR QUINTON LUCAS ATTACKING 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS EVEN MORE VICIOUSLY THAN HIS PREDECESSOR?!?!

Juxtaposition . . .

Mayor Sly's gun rights legislation was more ambitious but unlikely and easily shut down by Missouri politicos. Credit where it's due, Mayor Quinton Lucas has a better understanding of City Hall ordinances and federal gun legislation. He seems to be focused on GUN TAKEAWAYS where enforcement has been theoretically lacking.

Here's his explanation:

"This morning, I visited Rose Brooks Center to hear from survivors of domestic abuse and announce my latest ordinance that would keep guns out of the hands of perpetrators.

"I’m proud that we’ve been able to highlight Domestic Violence Awareness Month by introducing important and creative policy such as this, and I’m grateful to Rose Brooks for their partnership in crafting this ordinance."

News roundup . . .

KCTV5: Kansas City mayor introduces gun proposal to keep firearms away from domestic abusers

KSHB: The ordinance would allow police to arrest a person carrying a firearm who has been convicted of domestic violence, whether a felony or misdemeanor, or who has been issued a restraining order.

Fox4: "Similarly the ordinances involving minors, this is another example of a federal law that's already on the books but simply isn't being enforced on the local level. Federal prosecutors rarely pursue these cases since they are relatively minor to other cases."

Again, in theory this effort doesn't accomplish anything new but, once again begs the question:

WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE MAYOR QUINTON'S NEW ANTI-GUN LEGISLATION GIVEN THAT KANSAS CITY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE ON THE STREETS?!?!



Fact check:

"Fifty years ago, the Kansas City Police Department had a goal to reach 1,500 officers. That goal was never met, and today the department still remains far short of that number."

The goal was actually to put those officers on the streets and not just include office workers and administrators in the total. So current department stats on manpower are actually horribly skewed and the KCPD is far more enthusiastic about spending on more surveillance gadgets that also helps to track political opposition.

More to the point . . .

MAYOR QUINTON LUCAS TOUTS LEGISLATION THAT'S UNPROVEN TO STOP CRIME BUT HAS SO FAR DRAGGED HIS FEET IN WORKING TO HIRE MORE COPS!!!

Accordingly, the level of local murder so far in 2019 demonstrates that a political solution is unlikely to be effective in addressing Kansas City violence when the reality is that city hall has always had trouble allocating resources and doing much beyond press releases.

You decide . . .

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

At least he's doing something.

Sly's response to violence was nothing but giving more money to developers.

Anonymous said...

He's already spinning away from his original campaign promise.

First on his list was tackling crime. He said he wanted to see Kansas City neighborhoods become safer and that he felt that would require getting smarter police presence out onto the streets.

“It’s all about how you allocate law enforcement. Police are an important part of the equation for fighting crime,” Lucas said. “To the extent that we can see the presence of officers throughout our neighborhoods, I think that’s going to be key for our long-term crime-fighting efforts.”

Anonymous said...

He wants the money to go into bike lanes and streetcar extension. Not for hiring more cops.

Anonymous said...


KSHB: The ordinance would allow police to arrest a person carrying a firearm who has been convicted of domestic violence, whether a felony or misdemeanor, or who has been issued a restraining order.

Question: Are diversions or alford pleas on domestic violence charges included? Or excluded, allowing diversion recipients to still carry guns? If so, people will just pay to get a diversion.

Anonymous said...

Tweety Q's a left winger. So at least we know crime will get worse.

Anonymous said...

If you think Quinton is a bad mayor already, just wait until he comes all the way out of the closet. He is worthless now but it will get much worse.

Anonymous said...

Look how many women and trans people are being murdered. Wife Beating is not protected under the 2nd Amendment.

Anonymous said...

If you have been recently convicted of any felony you should not have a gun to begin with. This latest from city hall is nothing but a pile of shit that will solve nothing and stop nothing.

Criminals will always have guns and will use them against people. Till you make the criminal either stay in jail or learn how to behave in society all these so called feel good laws on paper are not even worthy of wiping one's ass with it. Guns are not the issue, the issue is the caliber of those who abuse guns ownership.

Anonymous said...

Lucas is NEITHER anti-crime or anti-gun rights.
He's anti-addressing the real issue and cause of the carnage in the urban core and very pro-playing make-believe with all these "programs" that do nothing at all.
But mostly he's just pro-ineffectual.
Just like the last guy in the bow tie and clown suit.
Maybe the Chamber of Commerce will address the homicides!
Momentum.

Anonymous said...

QUESTION: if you have a diversion on domestic violence is it considered an conviction. OR ARE YOU INNOCENT, and thus able to have guns??? Most DV cases end in diversions, NOT convictions

Anonymous said...

Lucas is definitely not anti-gay bar in Lawrence.

Anonymous said...

How many of the murders have been committed using legally obtained and owned firearms ? Laws will do next to nothing to change the lawless lifestyle prevalent in the murder zone of this city.

Anonymous said...

The number of police officers isn't the issue; the number of police officers not doing police work is the issue. Time and time again I have called the police non-emergency number with an answer on the first ring by a police officer; but a police officer never arrives. On more than one occasion I have called back time and time again for the same issue and was told a police officer was dispatched but that is not true. Show me the number to indicate Kansas City is short on police officers. The level of crime is not an indication of too many of too few police officers. The existing police force is neither effective nor efficient. Adding more police will not help. The police don't show up...

Anonymous said...

Funny how the same people commit crimes and we go for a gun grab from ones that do not. The libs always look to blame something beside the guilty party. Post pics of each and every person that kills. You won't see one gun. You will see the same people however.

Johnston said...

^^^^

Damn good point @8:04. Also think @7:17 raises a great question. I hope our council will press him on these issues instead of bowing to social pressure.

Anonymous said...

Essentially, this ordinance doesn't do ANYTHING. It just reinforces Federal law.

Great, another excuse to blame Trump about something!

Anonymous said...

The federal Lautenberg Ammendment has been law for 20+ years. They finally noticed it and will now start enforcing it? Did they not get the notice when it was made Federal law? How stupid.

Grappa said...

KCPD are too short staffed to enforce much. I'm glad the mayor is keeping busy but this is kind of pathetic. Damn good research on you @8:28.

Anonymous said...

I didn't know disarming KC was part of his campaign platoform.

Anonymous said...

Kansas City, Missouri 28.3 officers per 10,000 people 1,356 total officers 39.2 total employees per 10,000 people 1,875 total employees in the police department

median for cities with a population of 200,000-500,000 16.9 officers per 10,000 21.1 employees per 10,000

Nothing to indicate the number of officers is not sufficient for the City of Kansas City. More police isn't going to decrease the level of crime any more than throwing more people in jail decreased the level of crime.

Johnston said...

@9:14 Let's try it and find out. Much better than just bringing up a law that already exists but hasn't worked. If we keep repeating the same mistakes, we'll get the same results. Significantly increasing the number of officers hasn't really been tried in decades.

Anonymous said...

It might behoove the officers to remove guns from D.V. offenders, if only to protect themselves from being shot. Many police shooters have prior D.V. records. Don't you want to proactively save policemen?

Anonymous said...

Every street has someone with 200 rifles and pistols. These individuals are not at risk of gun confiscation because they are rich. The rest of us are worried the doctor or rich uncle won't be able to afford another armory if these are confiscated. For the rest of us, we keep our ears peeled for ricochet bullets followed by gunfire. Seeing someone drop dead from a gunshot happens every other year. We actually worry more about floods, brownouts and shitty cable than we do about door to door gun confiscation?

Dee said...

The mayor is doing the right thing. And even if I don't agree with every single bit of gun legislation I will say at least he's busy doing something. The last man are pretty much ignored the problem for 8 years.

Anonymous said...

"The ordinance would allow police to arrest a person carrying a firearm who has been convicted of domestic violence, whether a felony or misdemeanor, or who has been issued a restraining order."

How will the police know that the person is carrying a firearm, unless he does it openly. Stop and frisk? If so, apply that technique everywhere.

Anonymous said...

Is there any evidence that this will lower violent crime? No there's not, but it's a busywork thing to make it sound like he's addressing the issue

Anonymous said...

Qrime will only continue to get worse, this much is obvious