Thursday, September 26, 2019

Fmr. Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill Considers Impeachment Case Against Prez Trump

Apropos for #TBT - A conversation with an old Missouri friend who lost an election and is now offering political advice on morning news . . .

“There's two crimes at play here. The first crime is it is illegal to solicit foreign assistance in an American election. The second crime is it’s illegal to use your government office to impact government action in return for something of value.” - @clairecmc

Check the video clip:

Trump allies concerned about impeachment inquiry: Analysts

NBC's Kristen Welker and NBC political analyst and former Sen. Claire McCaskill weigh in on the impeachment showdown between President Trump and congressional Democrats. "You can't be the president of the United States, withhold aid from a country and then call and ask them for a political favor," said McCaskill.

37 comments:

Byron Funkhouser said...

Republicans will throw the orange monster under the bus to save themselves.

Anonymous said...

^^ Shut up you effing moron.

Anonymous said...

Witchiepoo McCaskill needs to check the latest talking points. Claire is right that a quid pro quo would be a crime--such as the crime Joe Biden committed, and bragged about committing on camera, on behalf of his crackhead son. But the transcript doesn't show that, Ukraine has denied it over and over, and now the Dems are desperate to put together a narrative.

Also, Ukraine didn't know the aid was being withheld at the time, making it a rather strange kind of threat. But hey, this is Democtat Hysteria Land, where sharpie markers are a threat to the nation and Russia is going to alter our weather.

chuck said...

8:27 is correct.

The federal bribery statute requires the government to prove that the defendants acted with corrupt intent to engage in a quid pro quo, that is, “a specific intent to give or receive something of value in exchange for an official act.” ... Section 201 covers both federal public officials and those who bribe them.

https://www.law.cornell.edu

Look, you would have to, after reading that transcript, prove what Trump was thinking, because, as much as you hate him, there is no "Smoking Gun" and in fact, a more logical assumption, would indicate, that he was interested in the Ukrainians assisting the US with an ongoing investigation into the genesis of the "Russian Collusion Hoax".

The dog just flat out - does not hunt.

Does that mean, that as Nancy Pelosi has said, that the Democrats won't continue on their Captain Ahab "Moby Dick" obsession in their quest to take down Trump?

No.

But the "Transcript" of the phone call, in no way, reflects categorical evidence of a request for "Something of value" in return for an investigation into Biden's son - Who, was, actually being investigated by the prosecutor that the Ukrainians fired, after Joe Biden, ON VIDEO, admits to getting fired. IN addition, he admits, ON VIDEO, that he will withold 1 billion dollars from the US unless the guy is fired.

DJT is the head law enforcement officer in the US.

Any reasonable American, would see Joe's request as at least prima facie extortion and bribery and worthy of the President, again, the head law enforcement officer in the US, looking into it.

Anonymous said...

^^Or get this...this President is flagrantly violating the constitution, is corrupt, and wholly unfit for office. You are a sycophant chuck.

Anonymous said...

8:46 - well said :-)

Anonymous said...

8:46 is a dildo.
Thanks for posting that pic of Hillary Jr.

Anonymous said...

Chuck, you're an idiot. The whole thing with his son, who was only on the board, was settled before Biden ever asked for the prosecutor to be fired. EVERYONE in the western world wanted him fired. Ukraine looked into the Biden matter and found no wrong doing. Get over it.

Anonymous said...

RE: “It’s illegal to use your government office to impact government action in return for something of value.” - @clairecmc


McAssKill's husband made a practice of conducting personal business meetings in Capitol Hill dining facilities. This gave the distinct impression that his wife's political connections were aiding his real estate/nursing home contracts.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/19/claire-mccaskill-husband-accusations-abuse/

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article173702521.html

Moby Dick said...

I am more afraid of the Dumbocrats than Captain Ahab.

Anonymous said...

Oh Chimpy. Monkeys don't understand government!

Anonymous said...

Chuck, the impeachable act mentioned in the Constitution involves "emoluments", not "bribes". Emoluments are defined as "anything of value", so either winning the 2020 Presidential Election and continuing to occupy the Office of President would have to be considered to be of "no value" or the question of whether or not an attempt was made to use a Foreign Government to influence the Election should be investigated.

Also, once again you refer to a "transcript", which is a record of fact, but the document that was released itself states that it is NOT a "Transcript", but a "memorandum" prepared from the memories of the Translators and White House Staffers who listened to the call. Since those Translators and Staffers are in well-paid positions, and since this Presidential Administration had been marked since its inception by a continuous series of "firings for disloyalty", shouldn't an investigation of the accuracy of any such "Memorandum" be appropriate?

Finally, remember that the Republican Impeachment inquiries into Bill Clinton began with an investigation whether he had profited from a Real Estate deal that went bad, and when it was determined that he had not, was expanded into what the current President would probably characterize as a "Witchhunt", searching madly through several areas until finally settling on Clinton's Sex Life.

Of course, President Trump's Sex Life has been exemplary, so there's no danger of anything similar there, but my point is that a current investigation might expand to examine such questions as how his children can be salaried as "Special Assistant To The President" and simultaneously be running the "Trump Organization", which makes lots of money from the US Government. Or perhaps look at why several Foreign Governments rent suites in the Trump Organization's DC Hotel that are never occupied, why the same suite is "rented" by several Foreign Governments at the same time (at full cost each), and why the Air Force lodges flight crews in Trump-owned facilities fifty miles from a US Air Base that has readily available lodging.

Just saying.

Anonymous said...

Let's be absolutely clear about one thing. The "transcript" that was released yesterday was nothing more than a memorandum written by the White House. It is in no way is a verbatim record of the call. What's even more astonishing is that morons who wrote the memorandum still manged to implicate the President! This stuff is too outrages to make up!

Anonymous said...

Except that it's exactly the quid pro quo that you're accusing Trump of.

Anonymous said...

Translation: Trump did an end run around our plan by releasing the transcript, so now we're floundering.

Anonymous said...

The problem is that the call is basically the Ukranian president sucking up to Trump. There's a passing mention of Biden at most. I know you pinned your hopes of relitigating the election on everything from sharpie markers to lapsed porn stars, and dragged the country through 3 years of a Nothingburger investigation that was corrupt and fraudulent from the outset, but this one is already over. Impeachment is very unpopular with independents, even if there was an impeachable offense here, which there just isn't.

Buden's toast, the Dems look even more desperately partisan after their latest fumbled hit job, and you're just gonna have to win an election after all.

With Warren. Lol

Anonymous said...

It literally is a transcript. Here's the dictionary definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transcript

If you would like to disagree with the dictionary then we don't have much to talk because it literally is a transcript

This helps trump a lot and basically ensures a 2020 victory. You don't have to be a trump supporter to see that

Anonymous said...

This President is going to be impeached. That's no longer in question especially after today's hearing about the Whistle blower brief. Impeachment is warranted and the President does not survive this. He does not deserve to. he is a traitor. If at this point you still support him, then you are a traitor too.

Anonymous said...

You mean the partisan 'whistleblower' who didn't see what they complained about? Right.

Why are you even pretending to believe in the actual process? You know you can't win at the ballot box, so you've come up with one bogus allegation after another. You were screaming impeachment on day one and it has never stopped.

Just more yawnable partisan hackery, unraveling by the moment. :)

Anonymous said...

He's also legally not "whistleblower" and it's propaganda that gets repeated. Legally, a whistleblower has to have first hand knowledge and this person does not by their own admission. This is also how they can stay anonymous because legally he is not a whistleblower. Not a trump guy, but jesus christ these impeachment libs look like retards and weird spergs about this whole thing

Anonymous said...

@10:55...


transcript noun
tran·​script | \ ˈtran(t)-ˌskript

Definition of transcrip

1a : a written, printed, or typed copy
especially : a usually typed copy of dictated or recorded material

b : an official or legal and often published copy
//a court reporter's transcript
especially : an official copy of a student's educational record

2 : a representation (as of experience) in an art form

3 : a sequence of RNA produced by transcription from a DNA template

I guess your insistence that what was released was a "transcript" relied on definition 2, an "art form", right?

Anonymous said...

Dude, let it go. Just get ready for the election.

Anonymous said...

Too bad Claire isn't available to be an unbiased Senate juror in an impeachment trial.

Lightweight Josh boy is too busy playing with facebook to even bother with it.

Anonymous said...

To 11:24 AM, I accept your concession that you were wrong because it is indeed a transcript.

Anonymous said...

I care so little what she thinks or has to say I skipped the article and came straight to the comments.

Super Dave said...

Claire is now a political nobody, the people spoke and no longer care what she thinks.

Retro ROCKER said...

McCaskill needs THE President out of Office. He is why She lost her election .And Remember She Was in Cahoots With the Obama administration. We are finding out now THE CORRUPT Obama administration. Remember Her fund raising in West L.A.COUNTY. THE PETAFIL AND THE AND the cult members donations.

Anonymous said...

The good news is Devin Nunes is on the case, errr, I mean the bad news. No wait. Fuck, I don't know. Repubtards, help me out here is Devin really that fucking stupid or just evil genius?

8:53 is on the money. But in Trumpworld, you just keep repeating the lie over and over and guys like Chuck and the rest of the base believe it.

Anonymous said...

12:20 - it's pretty clear it's not a transcript. The document isn't even labeled a transcript. I mean a transcript would contain line after line of Trump stammering and other notes as 'not discernible language' or 'unclear statement'. That's clue #1, it is in fact, not a transcript.

Anonymous said...

How are you liking the nothingburger today? Lol

Anonymous said...

So how long till Biden leaves the race? Two weeks?

Anonymous said...

Guys, when Adam Schiff is literally making up fake quotes from Trump to boost the silly story, it's time to retire the fake scandal.

I'm sure Trump's grateful for the 15 million he made yesterday on this bullshit though. Lol

Anonymous said...

I mean, it's a nothing burger if you're ok with the President calling another President from another country to dig up shit on your political opponent and sending your personal lawyer to oversee it. Nevermind you also said the AG was gonna be involved, he just completely contradicted that and said he wasn't involved.

Yes, yes, this is all very normal. If Obama did it, if Clinton did it, it would also be nothing burger then too.

What will be great now is finding out who the sources are inside the WH. And getting access to the real transcripts that get hidden because everyone in the WH knows the impropriety they show.

It's funny, it really is. All this shit hidden away, kept from committees, etc. that are just nothing burgers. A whole lot of of that going on for nothing burgers.

Anonymous said...

^^^ Your way behind. That's what happens when you watch to much 'Mad Cow' See ya in 2020 MAGA

Anonymous said...

^^^Dafug is Mad Cow and where am I off base? Guy in the WH thinks he's Don Corleone or Paul Cicero or some shit.

Anonymous said...

Please go away Claire.

Anonymous said...

Consistency is not your friend. Joe Biden, who did exactly what you're accusing Trump of, is just fine right? Get back to us when you stop shifting the moral goalposts minute by minute.

You're in fantasyland. There's nothing there. Why is it so hard to admit that Trump made you all look like dopes for the umpteenth time?