Thursday, December 27, 2018

TONY'S KANSAS CITY #TBT QUESTION: IS OAK PARK MALL BECOMING THE NEW BANNISTER MALL?!??!



Another recent shooting at an embattled shopping mall bring an important question to the forefront amid harsh times for retail merchants.

Old school readers remember Bannister Mall and the story of its demise well. Just like Oak Park, the parking lot was the main source of trouble whilst fear ruled the discussion and popular perceptions far more than any real risk. There were a few mall fights, brutal parking lot attacks along with security crackdowns hoping to retain order -- Eventually retailers gave up on the location that was forced to close long after shoppers of every demographic abandoned the location.

And so, apropos for #TBT and this season of shopping . . .

GIVEN THE RECENT SPATE OF GUNFIRE: IS OAK PARK MALL ON THE SAME PATH AS BANNISTER MALL?!?!?

In fairness, Amazon might pose a greater threat to the mall than gunfire but there's no denying that gunfire and local shoppers running for cover captivates the public. Still, so many photos of dead malls throughout the metro and the nation strike fear into the hearts of locals who don't want an empty retail sarcophagus in their backyard.

And so we offer the question to our critical blog community as shopping mall shooting becomes Oak Park ritual and a countdown to an innocent person getting hurt by the crossfire.

Check the links . . .

KSHB: Witnesses recount confusion, shock after gunshots fired outside Oak Park Mall

Fox4: Suspect who fired shots outside Oak Park Mall is still on the run

KCTV5: Overland Park police investigating shots fired in parking lot of Oak Park Mall

You decide . . .

84 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think the communities are different.

South KC was more working class and didn't have the higher incomes that JoCo has to support the mall.

Also, Overland Park is a much better run city than KCMO and will hopefully help the mall secure the location. Whereas KC has always thwarted businesses and never provided any assistance.

Anonymous said...

Just the Amish celebrating Kwaanza.

Jj said...

^^^ Agree on most of that but shooting is shooting and getting a crappy mall sandwhich at the food court is not worth suffering a mortal wound.

You heard it here first said...

It's be closed in about 3 years.

Pretzel boy said...

The fewer geezers at the mall the better.

Join a gym if you want to walk grandpa. GET THE F OUT OF THE WAY!

Anonymous said...

Shopping on the Plaza is so much safer.

Anonymous said...

@7:40 Do you want to get shot at the mall buying dentures for your gramps?

Anonymous said...

"Geezer" guy is a hoecake

I wanna live, baby! said...

Life is risk.

I think there are a lot of people who would rather go to the mall and see the real world than stay locked away in a basement or a trailer hiding from everyone else and spewing hateful garbage on the Internet.

Anonymous said...

Yes. The orcs will ruin anything they touch.

Anonymous said...

Just keep a certain type away from the mall and you won’t have shootings.

Anonymous said...

Come on let's hear all the cutting edge wisdom from KCMO folks on this.


Weez used to enjoy Bannister in da old daze..n da donuts were fresh and not stale.

Anonymous said...

I agree. We need fewer geezers at the mall!

Anonymous said...


When unstable people like Geezer hater move into your district and the little black kids get dropped off because their parents need free babysitting these things happen. If the mall doesn't put major restrictions in place it will die and close down. Independence Center is the same way, so is the Plaza, and Zona Rosa! Take a look at Metro North and Indian Springs, The Landing couldn't pay people enough to work there.

We all know the truth about who these people are and what will happen next!

Anonymous said...

Wow Tony doesn't mention the "Amish" or the "orcs" or a "certain tyoe" at all. What are you guys talking about, specifically? I mean, if there were a certain group of people who were always causing trouble at a place, he'd henton it, right? He wouldn't just blatantly ignore it, of course not

Anonymous said...

Oak Park Mall has been for losers for decades. KCMO residents could care less what happens at OP mall.

Anonymous said...

We already gave you the cutting edge answer but your too stoopid to understand it, it’s not your fault your kind were born with pea sized brains. I’m waiting for your cutting edge answer by the way or do you just hate whitey all day?

Anonymous said...

Tyoe? Henton? Is that Ebonics or kcps special ed talk? Boy, you’re a mess

Anonymous said...

Maybe if we run Matlock marathons at the old-folks home, we could get less geezers clogging up the malls. Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

^^^^ Maybe if you stop being such a little bitch, Grandpa will let you start sucking him off again and your mood will improve.

Anonymous said...

Young geezer babes once danced nude at Woodstock and young geezer dudes smoked a lot of dope before becoming stockbrokers and lawyers.

Anonymous said...

True. My geezer grandma used to work the pole 60 years ago. Total babe back in those days.

Anonymous said...

Overland Park best consider a wall to keep the KCMO loonies out.

Anonymous said...

Are we sure it wasn't a geezer in a stupid red hat who shot up the food court because he couldn't get tapioca anywhere?

Anonymous said...

Yes. Next question?

Anonymous said...

8:48 It was your murderous blacks, probably yo crackhead uncle who just got out of prison for murdering his sister for taking the last piece of chicken! Hahahahaha!

Anonymous said...

Shots fired shots fired! Geezer hater is down, geezer hater is down!

Anonymous said...

^^^ the only "shots" were those being thrown back because a 91 year old woman got tired of Geezer Hater's mouthiness and beat the shit out or him! All the grown ups at the mall were celebrating!

Anonymous said...

Can confirm: It WAS a dispute between two geezers taking laps at the mall. Seems the dispute was the classic Murder She Wrote is better than Matlock blood feud that has claimed so many lives recently.

Anonymous said...

^^^ stay down, stay down! It’s too painful to watch you bleed out after your own people shot you!

Anonymous said...

LOL @9:22AM Now that's funny right there!

Anonymous said...

9:22AM for the win!

Anonymous said...

Naww, it was an argument over Good Times and The Cosby Show.

Anonymous said...

^^Weak shit. Do better. Be original.

Anonymous said...

They need to get rid of the food court

Obviously, both of the shootings here happened in the food court area. They should just do away with the food court for everyones safety

Anonymous said...

How dare you bring up orcs in this discussion. Orcs are nothing like blacks. They have their own language, they have a real culture, most of them have jobs, and a few might know who their father is.

Katie H said...

Take cover! Take cover!

Anonymous said...

Oak Park is one of the few places in KC where I make certain I carry.

Thank God I only have to go there a couple times a year.

chuck said...

Coming soon, Wakanda Park Mall in formerly lovely JoCo.

The problem with Wakandans is that "Vibranium" isn't "VIBRAINIUM".

"Vibranium" isn't actually anything you can wear that makes you smarter and more civilized, it is a metaphor for "Affirmative Action", "White Privilege", "Institutional Raicsm" and the endless nomenclature which is an ever thinner patina on the dysgenic entropy that is the existential nature of a Black Sub Culture we are not allowed to question or criticize.

Repeated verification = justifiable belief.

My justifiable belief, is, that just like Bannister Mall and the literally tens of thousands of blocks, neighborhoods and cities that black violence has destroyed, Oak Park Mall will suffer the same fate. Politicians, the media and willfully impercipient Progressives will look the other way, while the Rule Of Law is diminished and ignored in search of placating violent, spoiled, indolent thugs who want you fuckin dead whitey.

Cities all over America, are decriminalizing petty theft. Open borders, legalization of Child Marriage and genital mutilation in Europe, the entire laundry list of whacked out shit the Progressive lunatics want and it will get worse.

Lock and load.

War is coming.

Anonymous said...

Ha! 10:06 who is 9:48 and buttboiz with 9:22 is wigger triggered!

Anonymous said...

funjis will close anything down if you get all of the saggy pant fake gold teeth wanna be gangsters strolling around talking in ebonics etc

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I still don't get it. Help me out here: you guys go on and on about black people being the single most important factor here. It's as though white people don't want to even be around them for their own safety. Why doesn't Tony mention that? If it's that obvious why doesn't he just say that's the issue? You all say it. Why doesn't he? Isn't that kind of as stupid to be unwilling to admit the real problem, if that's what it is?

Anonymous said...

America WILL become South Africa. Apartheid will evidently become the only solution to our demographic problem.

Anonymous said...

Oh look the Russian Bathhouse bot again @11:29. Sent to stir animosity amongst the feeble-brained geezers like chuck and his ilk.

Anonymous said...

You will know the end is near when they put guard towers in the parking lot.


Multiculturalism
Looses
Kontrol

Anonymous said...

America is getting dumber, and dumb is getting louder. College educated people are having fewer children, while those who didn't finish high school and can't really afford any kids and are not emotionally capable of raising children who mature into responsible adults continue to breed like rabbits. The have-nots are now the ruling party in America based solely on their numbers alone. Oak Park Mall is merely a glaring symptom of a festering problem in America.

Anonymous said...

It is time for oak park to follow independence center and former African I mean Indian Springs and put a police annex in the mall right there by the food court. We should not have to have an alert system because going to the should be a fun peaceful experience. They need to keep these clearly dangerous Amish people away.

Barney Frank said...

Short fall,he was already on his knees

Tracy Thomas said...

10:46, you beat me to it. Close the food court.

I also like 12:17's police annex within the mall.

The retailers paying those big leases should DEMAND it. En masse. Tell the mall owners do it now, or we all leave.

As it stands, the food court is for loitering. Unlike Starbucks, it's free. Remember they have a secret combination on the bathrooms at Starbucks on Main above the Plaza. Keeps druggies from shooting up or transacting business.

In London, in order to use the bathroom at virtually any store, one must have a receipt/buy something. Enact that policy as well.

The mall is for retail business. It is not a free entertainment and loitering or settling fights arena. And it's not for free babysitting service--drop your carload of kids off with $2 for a soda, steal whever else you need the rest of the day.

No wonder Nordstrom's is leaving. I bet they speed up their Plaza construction. And pressure to have the movie theatres closed down.

Times have changed since Bannister Mall failed. That became a gang hangout, and there was mischief and hazing in the parking lot. Come back with the finger of a white woman, etc. that's why they built guard towers in the parking lot. This was well before smart phones. Bannister Mall was right IN the midst of a poor area with resident black teens who walked there on foot.

Oak Park Mall is experiencing mobile influx of crime. But the result will be the same. I would not recommend any retailer lease a space there.

Anonymous said...

Unless criminals LIVE at the mall, it is all a "mobile influx." Is there a dorm or something?

Anonymous said...

Thanks Tracy, I'm sure the retailers give a shit what an old bat who never ventures out and has absolutely no fashion sense judging from your horrid picture thinks.

Anonymous said...

She's great and has points to make.

Unlike you.

Anonymous said...

They call me the geezer hater,
I’m a chronic masturbater,
I sit on the stool, tugging my tool,
Hoping that gramps joins me later.

Anonymous said...

KCMO is being CONNEN. The Eastern Block in the Council has convinced a majority of the council members to support high levels of spending in the 3rd district, ie 18th and Vine, the Jazz Museum, Linwood Grocery and all of the ongoing overhead associated with these projects.
These investments have no payback what so ever and will serve only those who live directly in these areas. Of course, these Council members would not propose a taxing district which would support these expenses.
At the same time basic city services such as roads, snow removal, street lights, curbs, and police are neglected.

Anonymous said...

Ummm...@1:08PM get your eyes checked pops..Tracy is a hideous troll.

Anonymous said...

^^+10000!

Anonymous said...

So what's then REAL issue here? Is it black people? The writer doesn't say (beats me why, just a bunch of strung together cliches and nothing else) and you guys kinda around the edges and make hints.

So what is it? What are people afraid of?

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^Says the hideous troll.

Anonymous said...

@1:30PM this issue here is that geezers have infested the malls and are shooting it with rival geezers over which TV detective did it better. Unless Oak Park Mall steps up and starts barring these thugs from doing "hot" laps around their malls for turf, this kind of shit will happen over and over again.

Anonymous said...

Yeah 1:02 you really are an ignorant jackass

Anonymous said...

God, so boring. New material maybe? Do better. Any one of us can do your act better than you at this point.

Anonymous said...

ATTENTION: FOX 4 has released photos of the two subjects. Told you so!

Anonymous said...

1:42 God, so boring. New material maybe? Do better. Any one of us can do your act better than you at this point.

Anonymous said...

Section Ape Park Mall

Malls
Love
Killers

Anonymous said...

1:42 You’re right! Those damn worthless koloreds with pea sized brains again!

Anonymous said...

Young black males have ruined the security and shopping experience of oak park mall. Time after time with the gunpoint robberies in the parking lots to the shootings around the food court where they loiter and start fights.


Anonymous said...

Old white geezers ruined the mall long before that. Time after time they have clogged the paths of other shoppers. They fuck up the parking by going 2 miles an hour through the lots with their blinkers on. They foul the air of the mall with their rancid, full diapers. So gross!

Anonymous said...

I usually agree with Tracy and today is no exception.
Food courts are loitering magnets where folks can be eyes for jewelry. And how well they might be able to defend themselves.
There is no guarantees of safety anywhere... but there are more and more reasons to shop Amazon- and Safety is another one.
100 years from now kids won’t understand why you went to a store to shop.
If Ocasio Cortez isn’t laughed out of Congress soon- no need to shop as everyone will wear the same stuff and Socialism will take over.

Anonymous said...

You can find 7:40 in the back of Spencer's Gifts rubbing up against the young boys.

Anonymous said...

Oak Park Mall: We need to have metal detectors at the doors to get in.
This would solve the shooting problem in the mall.

Anonymous said...

The traffic here has to be a hundred times higher than the Kansas Shitty Star.
Seems more of their comments are from foreigners bragging they make thousands each week doing little to nothing all the while giving you a link to do the same. So sad to see what the future of the Star is:
Hijacked by foreign ads.

Anonymous said...

^^^
They call me the geezer hater,
I’m a chronic masturbater,
I sit on the stool, tugging my tool,
Hoping that gramps joins me later.

Anonymous said...

@1:37
They call me the geezer hater,
I’m a chronic masturbater,
I sit on the stool, tugging my tool,
Hoping that gramps joins me later.

Steve Hanson said...

Ban black thugs, you ban most gun crimes. Statistics are liberals' worst enemy.

Anonymous said...

But how do we stop the geezers from getting in? Tapioca detectors at the doors? But, do we really want to patting down their diapers?? Ewwwwww!

Anonymous said...

^^Good question. I suggest we get the rest homes to up the Thorazine levels in the morning. That should keep them doped up for the day.

Anonymous said...

Hahahahaha! Even poets are sick of geezer hater. Nice!

Anonymous said...

Aside from getting knocked the fuck out (to use your favorite phrase) by 2:10, you exactly prove my point. Not one original thought in your head.:)

Anonymous said...

@2:22Pm-Do yo think if left the news at the home on Fox all day, that would curb the geezer influx in the malls? Seems to work with most of them. Thoughts?

Anonymous said...

The geezer hater on this blog is about as worthless as the come. He mocks people who have retired with disposable income from savings and investments. Proclaiming to TKC that THEY are the problem at the mall and not young black males with guns. He gets very very defensive when it comes to stories about homosexual priest abuse and transgender related issues. Don’t you dare bring up Westport counter culture freaks that will really upset him. The truth is...is that he is a beta male soy boy who couldn’t fight his way out of a paper bag. He doesn’t even know what gender he is. He is confused, lost, and unwanted. His vocabulary only consists of FOX News and diapers. Such an intellectual, right?

If geezer boy was a country just think how easy it would be to push him around and take him over. Only to make him sit in a corner while he cries.

Tracy Thomas said...

2:03 suggests metal detectors at the doors.
That won't work, because: a. now you can 3D print a gun. And think of all the metal in our purses etc even underwire bras, sometimes. . so it would really slow down entry to the mall for legitimate shoppers, plus creep them out.

Currently, there is a pathetic sign on each entrance door at Oak Park Mall--no GUNS. Now who pays attention to that? Who obeys that order? Not the bad guys. So the most dangerous place for the public to be is in a so-called "gun free zone". The thugs are armed. They know that pretty much everyone else who is law-abiding IS NOT!! Change that policy. When thugs realize that the moment they draw a gun,, they will be shot--they will think twice. They will fear the public, not just the rare mall cop. They will be outgunned and outnumbered. Result: Less thuggery and violence.

And no, the problem is not the color of a thug's skin. It's the sociopathic belief that they can take whatever they like--stuff or lives. With the expectation that in a "gun-free" zone, they will escape Scot-free. (Sorry to the Scots!) Change that policy.

And by the way, you trolls are just not all that smart, are ya? By definition, trolls are anonymous cowards. Whereas, I sign my name.

Anonymous said...

Tracy for the win!

Interesting no comment from the other voice of reason, Super Dave.

Anonymous said...

Do you wear underwire brassieres? What size? Will they really set off a metal detector?

Anonymous said...

3:35 wins it for me! Best. Knockout. Ever! Hahahahaha!