A questionable tradition of discipline makes for an uncomfortable discussion as the newspaper puts this old school paddling topic up for discussion. Read more:
Rockhurst High alum wants apology for corporal punishment | The Kansas City Star
Kelly Gerling says he was a Rockhurst High School freshman when he was called to school on a Saturday to work off a discipline demerit - by fighting another student. It was 1967-86 school year, and Vice Principal Ron Windmueller brought Gerling and another student down into the school basement to receive their "JUG," or justice under God.
That’s what’s wrong with kids today, they don’t get a whoopin when they do something bad.
ReplyDeleteWhat a pussy
ReplyDeleteAnother story for today’s printing of The Catholic Cuckoo.
ReplyDeleteSounds kind of hot.
ReplyDeleteRockhurst guys are well known for taking care of their own locally in the business scene. This is old, but it does explain a lot. Rockhurst is basically a HS fraternity.....right on down to the robust drug scene.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe the Star published this. His parents probably drove him to school that Saturday ashamed of their son's behavior and supportive of the school's consequences. He didn't seem to be so fragile when he got into a fight at school with another student??? Maybe that other kid is emotionally damaged, deserves reparations and a public apology from this guy as well.
ReplyDeleteCorporal punishment was widespread in this era. You could probably find some kind of hazing, punishment, emotional/physical intimidation in every organization - including the Kansas City Star - and it wasn't always a bad thing.
Spare the rod, spoil the child.
ReplyDeletethe only thing it hurt was my pride.helped me grow up get over it damed convent you wait till these people have died to start crying
ReplyDeleteKelly Gerling is a good man, a competent psychologist. His point is, to document this in WRITING, and have some Missouri legislators change the LAW.
ReplyDeleteTypical of the Catholic church to sweep their dreadful policies under the rug in an attempt to just get back to the business of guilt-tripping and breeding new congregants to shut up and finance their non-taxed empire.
Gerling is right. It is important to formalize and DOCUMENT the recognition of unacceptable corporal punishment and humiliation, for the pleasure of the administrator. He's not calling for reparations. Document the history, anchor it in time. Then change the darn law in Missouri. And Kansas.
Tracy, do you have a solution for fixing the problems at Shawnee Mission West?
DeleteI saw the headline and, honestly, wondered why this was a story (let alone such 'big' story - I've got some assumptions but I'll leave those to others). Are there issues? Have there been issues? Of course there have been but this is a 'move on' story in my opinion. This occurred fifty years ago! You want to talk about things that are happening today, sure. This was six decades ago!
ReplyDeleteI know for a fact in the 80s corporal punishment was meted out in elementary schools in the area. I'll go you one further... In college I had some housemates and friends that came from a smaller, rural school district in Missouri. In 6th grade students (maybe just the boys) received 'swats' for missed words on spelling tests. A bit extreme but different times and different school boards.
Move on from this story...
Jackass.
ReplyDeleteTo bad this isn't practiced more and appears Kelly Gerling didn't learn his lesson. It's assholes like him the so called psychologist pill pushers that have ruined how children today are disciplined which has resulted in the ruining of kids today from having any respect for anything.
ReplyDeleteSounds like he needs another trip back to school for a JUG!
It's gotta be a sign of the times that an American male can tell the world he's a weenie and not be embarrassed about it. The feminization of the y-chromosomal populace continues apace.
ReplyDeleteStory gives me a bone.
ReplyDeleteTracy, this has nothing to do with the Catholic church. Just as child molestation unfortunately happens in all corners of life, so did corporal punishment.
ReplyDeleteAnd 8:12, would love to hear more about the "robust drug scene." Of course, there are no drugs at other schools, right? Jealousy doesn't look good on you.
Have Catholics ever heard the phrase “two wrongs don’t make a right?” I’m thinking not. No matter what disgraceful thing they’re called on (child molestation, corporal punishment, drugs in schools, etc) their instinctual reaction is to deflect by replying that it goes on in other places. As an organization, I suppose it’s on par with some others, but as a church, it’s a hot mess of a joke.
DeleteThere has to be something deeper here under the covers. 50 years ago and you want people to apologize who had nothing to do with it? Well if that’s his way of thinking I want him to publicly apology for all the crazy meds his profession has laced our youth with.
ReplyDelete2:53 - Academic attempts to replicate studies in the social sciences, including of course psychology, have been unable to do so more than 50% of the time, a clear indication that the conclusions of the originally published studies were unwarranted. This puts much of psychology, sociology etc. into the category of science referred to as mumbo-jumbo.
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