TKC READER SUNDAY HOT TAKE: SHOULD McCAIN HAVE FORGIVEN PREZ TRUMP?!?!



Weekend news coverage has mostly been dedicated to the memory of Sen. John McCain who recently lost his battle with cancer.

However, one of the partisan talking points that dominates discussion among partisan hacks is his debates with Prez Trump.

With respect to the American hero, a AWESOME TOP ECHELON TKC READER offers this ALTERNATIVE HOT TAKE:

"Of course Senator McCain deserves the respect and admiration of all Americans but I'm troubled by how his death is being politicized in the media and used as yet another opportunity to attack the President. Never the ritual of all the local politicians coming out to get their share of the spotlight. TKC, what troubles me most is talk that emphasizes how Sen. McCain didn't want the President at his funeral. While he is entitled to that decision and those left behind can honor his memory in whatever way they see fit I think this question needs to be asked: What kind of message is that sending to the rest of us? Are we learning that we must take bitter political feuds to the grave with us instead of realizing our commonality in our own mortality? What we're seeing to day is a lot of media wanting us to place politics above patriotism and life itself."

Check the links:

WaPo: In death, John McCain shows an alternative to Trump

CNN: McCain's tributes aim veiled shots at Trump

NYT: Donald Trump Offers Condolences to Family of John McCain, Senator Who Defied Him

US: President Donald Trump's brevity on John McCain speaks volumes about their strained relationship

LA: Bad blood between McCain and Trump lingered, even as Arizona Republican neared the end of his life

You decide . . .

Comments

  1. TKC, only half right here. the McCain family can do whatever they want, it's their party.

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    1. It's not a private party, the whole country is part of it.

      But I see the point here. President Trump cast as the bad guy again and again and used to harden the public against him before he is removed from office. This is how the media works, it's not about behaving decently like McCain often did, it's about winning.

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  2. McCain's value to political conservatives is inversely proportionate to Nancy Pelosi's high regard of him. Leftists do not say nice things about people who got in their way.

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  3. Just one more clown that did not face the facts that the Globalists set up all this "free trade " bullshit to strengthen multi-national corporate power AT THE EXPENSE of the Shitizens of USA. These treaties were all extra-Constitutional. The past Presidents since Reagan all sold the US down the river, off shored manufacturing, eviscerated family farms.,...etc and now that someone finally comes along and clearly sees the importance of a country having a robust manufacturing base and a country that can actually fucking FEED ITSELF....now, assholes call it "Trumps Trade War".

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  4. McCain could never forgive Trump for you know, actually winning the Presidency. Anyone with a brain in their head knows McCain took a dive in 2008. Trump refused to do so.

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  5. Security Guard Cameron Wright8/26/18, 7:39 PM

    McCain was a Soros-funded Traitor.

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  6. Ursula Haverbeck8/26/18, 7:50 PM

    McCains' father was a traitor too, he tried to cover-up Israels' attack on the USS Liberty on 6/8/1967 and threatened the survivors. Makes me wonder if treason is hereditary.

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  7. Screw wet start McStain.

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  8. McCain never behaved decently. He always sold out his own party so he could celebrated and held in high esteem by the socialist left and main stream media.

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  9. privileged douche McCain had BOTH a father and grandfather who were 4 star Admirals -
    who got him into Annapolis - where he graduated at the bottom of his class-then got his ass shot down in Nam..then became RINO-in Chief --good riddance

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  10. Anyone who was in the Hanoi Hilton deserves the respect of this country
    A senator who promises his voters he’ll vote a certain way if they elect him, then betray them, deserves scorn

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    1. Support The Troops KC8/26/18, 8:44 PM

      ^^^^^^^ +100

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  11. ^^^^^^^winner

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  12. 7:20----Dead, dead on the money.

    He was a uni-party piece of shit.

    He damaged the country - badly over the last two years with his narcissistic, myopic, solipsistic, - "It's all about me" check out this "dossier" bullshit.

    Here we are - STILL - pretending that Trump took a check, or wrote a check, or whatever - while the lie is told, while the narrative is repeated again and again, like the sermon on the mount, sans the fuckin loaves and fishes.

    I am sure the Ayatollah is thrilled he is dead, so that someone else can suck the devil's dick.

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  13. there is your elegy Jon, you piece of shit, you should have died "in Country" like so many people I knew.

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  14. Strother Martin8/26/18, 9:20 PM

    The traitor McCain made over 30 propaganda broadcasts for the Communists, this is why he was called "Songbird John" by his brothers-in-arms. When he was elected to public office, he tried to have the broadcasts made "classified".

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    1. 920, if they tortured the fuck out of you for 4 years straight, I can guarantee you'd make whatever fucking video they tell you to make. I'll give the guy a pass on that.

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  15. Did Trump ever apologize? Not just to McCain, but everyone in the military he has insulted. To POWs or Gold Star families? To veterans? Racial slurs during award ceremonies. Holding wounded warrior fund raisers and then welshing on pledged money - that's worse than an insult.

    Trump doesn't love the military. If he did, he would have served instead of asking for 5 deferments.

    He is still a coward and won't go where US troops are fighting now. No trips to visit with our soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria.

    McCain was right about our traitor-in-chief.

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  16. It wasn't political, it was personal.

    Trump insulted his manhood & his valor.

    Trump was a draft dodger.

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  17. John McCain armed and funded “moderate rebels” in Syria and Iraq. News flash...there are no moderate rebels. Jahbat al nusra which was quasi ISIS was one of those groups. FSA cut people’s heads off, and a whole laundry list of others. John was a war monger.

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  18. I am truly amused by the Trumptard spewings on this thread.
    One of the defenders of the Coward In Chief even called John McCain "a privileged douche" - if that was true, then what name (it would have to be twenty times stronger) would fit Trump?

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  19. Five Reasons Not to Mourn John McCain
    1. On July 29, 1967, the spoiled brat McCain pulled a prank and wet started his jet as while aboard the USS Forrestal. His mother lovingly called him a ‘scamp’ and it was well known he was a practical joker and rule breaker. He finished near rock bottom in a class of over 800 at Annapolis because he tried to break every rule in the book there while also making terrible grades. Such a prank befits his character. The huge flame created touched off a bomb on the plane behind him which led to more bombs going off from other parked planes, which then led to the deaths of 134 sailors. McCain did nothing to help during the fire. He was whisked off the carrier and protected because his father and grandfather were Navy admirals. The Deep State Swamp media has since tried to cover this up. They protect their own.
    2. He was not a hero. Getting shot down and captured may make him a victim, but not a hero. He probably didn’t pay attention during a training class, and so he didn’t pull in his arms when he ejected over North Vietnam–and that’s why they were broken. His captors knew he was the progeny of four star admirals and if anything gave him special treatment. McCain begged for medical treatment and sang like a bird at the ‘Hanoi Hilton’ to get it. He gave up vital intelligence that led to the deaths of more aviators. 
    3. Upon his return to America he immediately stabbed his wife in the back. She was badly injured in a car accident and he couldn’t be bothered to help her. Instead, he quickly dumped her and married a wealthy heiress who could fund his political career. People get divorced all the time, but the manner in which he proceeded only underscores his cold-hearted selfishness.
    4. He’s painted as a happy and brave ‘Maverick’ and strong ‘Independent’ by the Deep State media. Wrong. He was a jackass of major proportions. The ‘Warrior’ of the Senate was owned by the Deep State and George Soros in particular. McCain became a shill for open borders who also supported globalism and carbon taxes to fight ‘climate change.’ At the same time, he was the worst enemy of military veterans, whom he left mistreated and in the lurch. Now there’s a bill in Congress meant to provide aid for vets and they want to name it after their ‘hero,’ McCain. Disgusting.
    5. He supported Bush in the Iraq war, even though the entry into that quagmire was based on lies. McCain claimed we would stay there 100 years if necessary. Such stubbornness and war mongering combined with his flash-temper only highlight the fact that he should have been nowhere near the nuke button. McCain was a reckless ‘hot head’ 

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    1. ^ curious, I looked up a lot of these things to see if this person is correct. Almost nothing you're reading above or below this comment is correct. For instance, there was a fire on an aircraft carrier that McCain happen to be on, but it was caused by crew members making mistakes and one of the Rockets firing off of a different aircraft sitting off a chain reaction when one of the Rockets hit munitions. Is this some sort of cut and paste conspiracy stuff. If you think the military has the ability to cover up and blame the death of 134 people when there's four or five thousand Witnesses from the aircraft carrier and the surrounding ships, you've never been in the military to see how inept it is.

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  20. An additional five reasons:

    6. He was a spoiled and entitled brat who was repeatedly backed and bailed out at every turn by his pappy and grand pappy. He should never have been admitted into Annapolis in the first place. He should have been kicked out of Annapolis for his outrageous and rebellious behavior. He crashed a total of five military aircraft. He loved partying more than flying. He should have been kicked out of the Navy for crashing several jets during his daredevil clowning. He should have been no where near the Senate. The NeoCons rigged the primaries for McCain who contemptuously laughed at Ron Paul during the debates. He should have been nowhere near the Republican nomination, but the Deep State wanted McCain, the reckless ‘hot head’ to lose to Obama. He chose Sarah Palin has his running mate and years later blamed her for his loss. The hot head backstabber never took responsibility for his actions. 
    7. He displayed great contempt for his constituents while showing his arrogance and hatred for America by never bothering to resign from the Senate when he knew he had terminal brain cancer. He wanted to go to the grave with his power, thus depriving Arizona from representation.
    8. He made sure trade restrictions were softened with Vietnam and hailed as a forgiving man of peace. Wrong! He did it so he could get his Budweiser distributorship there. He was first in line to make money from such legislation. The lust for money and power ruled rule-breaker McCain.
    9. He supported ISIS terrorists and wanted us to start another war in Syria, which might have lead to World War II. McCain was not a ‘maverick.’ He was an establishment war-mongering stooge and enabler for the Deep State.
    10. He leaked Hillary’s paid-for pack of lies, the Steele Dossier, to James Comey, in an attempt to bring down President Trump. This was illegal, but hey—he’s John McCain! Instead of showing remorse he said, “Anyone who doesn’t like it can go to hell!” A faux conservative, he voted against his own party and President Trump when he could—including his vote to keep ObamaCare. The lying back stabber McCain became much loved and he’s now being profusely praised by the Deep State Swamp and its propaganda media. That only proves what a scum bag he truly was.

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  21. McCain was only out for himself and only used the Republican tag to get elected.
    McCain was in bed with the deep state and the progressives. He failed his country in Vietnam.
    @8:31 is correct.

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  22. The president was a draft dodger, he called Mccain "not a hero" and had no respect for him. Trump was an ultra rich guy, that uses political connections to avoid doing military service.

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  23. Anyone, anyone, calling out McCain being spoiled and entitled, yet supporting Trump is a moron of epic proportions. This is the problem in the US today, you have so many assholes who take this stance and these are voters in our country. Truly disturbing.

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  24. Be fair, McCain should have forgiven Trump.
    That is, as soon as Trump apologized publicly and admitted publicly that he was a Draft Dodging asshole!

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  25. McStain :

    https://truepundit.com/washington-post-mccain-fudged-his-navy-record-linked-to-5-major-mishaps-as-pilot-one-disaster-killed-134-american-sailors/

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  26. McCain is basically Dick Cheney except liberals love him so they can act like they're objective and non partisan.

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  27. White House flags return to full staff less than 48 hours after McCain's death

    Libs heads exploding...


    U.S. Code › Title 4 › Chapter 1 › § 7s section m

    The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress.

    God forbid we have a president who follows and respects the law.

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  28. OMG - all the folks who want to protect our 72-year-old "Baby" President from all the no-good very bad people who don't love him. Trump Baby has shown his lack of compassion, his lack of heart, and his lack of soul. Not just with McCain, but with other ordinary folks. It's all about Trump all day all the time. Sad....

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    1. You lost. And will continue to lose. Get over it.

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  29. 12:01 shows how far Trump enablers are up his ass.

    Following the law??? Bullshit. Why did Trump sign a proclamation to fly flags at half staff for Barbara Bush until her burial? Because it's been protocol and courtesy, that even Trump was OK following for Bush (or maybe you can apply your code equally and say Trump broke the law...)

    This has nothing to do with following the law. It's Trump's last fuck you to a POW because he doesn't like soldiers that get captured. Pathetically petty.

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  30. The Trump flunkies are now reduced to defaming an honored POW and spitting on his grave.

    Based on the comments, you would think McCain was in the same class with Bowe Bergdahl or Chelsea Manning.

    It's just one more reason why all these shithead Repukelicans need to be voted out in November.

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    1. Hey, do you remember the left crapping all over MCain in '08?

      Now you revere him as a convert to your weird Trump hate religion. ;)

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  31. 12:01 has been Trump fucked.

    U.S. Code › Title 4 › Chapter 1 › § 7s section m

    God forbid we have a president who follows and respects the law.
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    And Trump just ordered the flags to be lowed again via proclamation. He just broke the law dipshit! Can't wait to hear the rationalization for this one. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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  32. Hilarious seeing the Dems/Left descend into the intellectual crap hole after being so smug and smirky on their lofty perch of the 70's and 80's.

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  33. Winning Winning Winning8/27/18, 5:25 PM

    In Stunning Reversal, Michael Cohen's Attorney Backpedals On Trump-Russia Claims

    "I regret my error"


    LOL

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  34. 8:26 - Nope, don't remember. Didn't happen.

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  35. You won. Own it. Govern sometime.

    Where's that wall? When is that check from Mexico arriving? When does Trump fix immigration? Where's that great cheap healthcare? When is the VA fixed?Where are all the raises? Where are all the new manufacturing jobs? When is this American carnage ending? When is the swamp drained?

    What happened to day one, it's going to be so easy, and he alone can fix it?

    Suckers. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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