The latest Kansas City Red Light Camera fact check reports brings an important topic to mind . . .
POLITICOS AND SOME AUTHORITIES SWORE UP AND DOWN THAT THESE CAMERA WERE OKAY UNTIL THE MISSOURI SUPREME COURT RULED THEM ILLEGAL!!!
And so here's the pittance that will be paid back while spy-cams remain on public streets: Settlement deal reached in traffic camera lawsuits
POLITICOS AND SOME AUTHORITIES SWORE UP AND DOWN THAT THESE CAMERA WERE OKAY UNTIL THE MISSOURI SUPREME COURT RULED THEM ILLEGAL!!!
And so here's the pittance that will be paid back while spy-cams remain on public streets: Settlement deal reached in traffic camera lawsuits
and why exactly can people only recover 20% of the fine they had to pay for the illegal tickets?
ReplyDeleteThanks A LOT Cathy Jolly !!!
ReplyDeleteThe public doesn't want the cameras focused on them, just those pesky cops. It's no fun being held accountable 24/7, is it people?
ReplyDeleteno its not fun to be illegally harassed by those pesky police, like these cameras were doing. 8:24 must not like that pesky constitution. if you don't like pesky cameras watching you while you patrol then find another job. oh that's right you can't. you didn't go to college, and couldn't cut it in the military so you have no skills. i'm sorry for you 8:24.
ReplyDeleteAt least I'm smart enough to stop at a red light. Now, take your 20% back and shut up.
DeletePOLITICOS AND SOME AUTHORITIES SWORE UP AND DOWN THAT THESE CAMERA WERE OKAY UNTIL THE MISSOURI SUPREME COURT RULED THEM ILLEGAL!!!
ReplyDeleteWe will see these politicos in hell with gasoline drawers on. Can't wait.
Cameras were installed in 2009, or thereabouts. Brunner v. City of Arnolds began the work of showing how the cameras were unlawful. Case was decided in 2013. Of course, municipalities took interest in the case because they've invested millions in this technology. This is yet another boondoggle from the Kansas City Public Works Department (Sherry McIntyre and Patrick Klein). There's a long list of failure from this group. If we start now, we can demand their resignations.
ReplyDeleteWhats good for the goose as well has to be good for the gander. All this yelling about cameras on cops in the end is going to turn around and be in the cops favor and all you residents yelling for them will want them removed and then it will be to late.
ReplyDeleteRemember you all wanted that coon in the White House now you can't wait to get him out. You all pushed to give and give to the poor to the point the poor numbers have exploded because people would rather sit on their ass and collect a check rather than get a job earning the money.
You all pushed to go to war against Iraq, you wanted payback and 30 days later you was yelling for it to end you hated it after the body count for Americans went past 10.
You always want till you get, then you bitch when you get and didn't look at the issue with any common sense to begin with and want the changes stopped.
Soon as you get one group wearing cameras for the safety of all you are then opening the door for cameras to be accepted everywhere mark my word on this.
He is only half a coon
DeleteThis is what happens when you elect Sly James mayor. Still think Funk Man was screwed up? Just look at the money that has been wasted here; Thousands on camera agreements, thousands on the city writing, fighting and passing multiple illegal ordinances, payroll for legal and staff, expenses related to the legal battles and now the cowards who paid instead of fighting, in this class, are offered only 20 percent after being coerced, bullied and victimized by the city and state. All of this paid for with your tax dollars.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of voting. How's this present crop of jackles working out for the KC tax payers?
hey captain america... ie smartman... welcome to 2014, seems like you need some catching up on what you missed. just so you know, cameras are EVERYWHERE, we have smartphones we use to take videos and selfies, our convenience stores started getting robbed so we put in CCTV cameras, our cops started killing people for not wearing seat belts and for drinking while on boats so we made them start wearing cameras. luckily the courts have been clear that cameras cannot be compulsory for private citizens/property and there are limits on government use, like illegal prosecution by red light cameras. so captain america thanks for your help in wwII and welcome to 2014.
ReplyDelete11:01 you missed what the man is saying and what he says is right just wait. Once you ok the use of cameras for law enforcement then you set a standard for the courts to work on. If cameras then prove to be ok for law enforcement mounted on a cop then it will be ok for them mounted on a pole. Once these cameras are used as evidence in a court room you open the door for any law enforcement cameras to be allowed. First it was dash cam now it's going to be body cam and next it's going to be pole cameras becoming legal for law enforcement because you the citizens have said ok we want cameras used for law enforcement. Why do you think cops not fighting this more, they know just exactly what they are doing here. First they have recorded evidence that can be used in a court of law they before didn't have to help them win. No more he said she said shit it will all be there what was said. So you see this is how they will get the red light cameras and any others they want to use made legal because you the people are building the foundation for them they didn't have 5 years ago.
ReplyDeleteI needs my respirations bitchezzzz!!!
ReplyDeleteI don't mind cameras, except where there is an expectation of privacy.
ReplyDeleteWhat is worse than cameras is this shit where the cops fake cell towers to suck illegally seized data off your mobile devices even though every freaking Federal district court in the country has said it can only be done in an emergency and reviewed by a magistrate. This has been going on for some time and yet no one seems to get their ass in the air about it.
Perhaps it's a good time to remember that driving a car is not a fucking right.
ReplyDelete+1 12:52 ... 1:03 okkkkkkkk???? and perhaps its a good time to remember that A is a letter? whats your point?
ReplyDeleteAny fool can listen into many things if they know the freqs or equipment to use. I know I have listen to cell phones and pagers for years while passing the time. If the cellular system uses newer digital technology, it is possible for a price affordable by most radio hobbyists to buy a digital data interpreter that connects between a scanner radio and a personal computer. The digital data interpreter reads all the digital data transmitted between the cellular site and the cellular phone and feeds this information into the computer.
ReplyDeleteThe Stingray is a small device that mimics cellular towers – tricking all wireless devices on the same network into communicating with it, which enables local police that utilize it to very accurately pinpoint your location, listen to your calls and capture data from any wireless device even when not in use.
The devices come with a hefty price tag for most people, but local law enforcement across the country are acquiring them with grants from the Dept. of Homeland Security. Gee, big surprise there huh?
These devices have been around for a number of years, but their use is only now becoming widely known. Last Thursday, Erie County New York sheriff Tim Howard stated that his office has had one since 2008, but is now finished making public statements about its use.
Although manufactured by a Germany and Britain-based firm, the StingRay devices are sold in the US by the Harris Corporation, an international telecommunications equipment company. It gets between $60,000 and $175,000 for each Stingray it sells to US law enforcement agencies.
Originally intended for terrorism investigations, the feds and local law enforcement agencies are now using the James Bond-type surveillance to track cell phones in drug war cases across the nation without a warrant. Federal officials say that is fine — responding to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by the Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF) and the First Amendment Coalition, the Justice Department argued that no warrant was needed to use StingRay technology.
10:11, Pat and Sherri have cost taxpayers tons of cash, yet these unqulified, bitter assistant city managers manage to keep their job. These two plus Schulte should be fired immediately before they cost us another $750k lawsuit.
ReplyDeleteLol, I assumed you meant Pat Tool-y and Sherry DejAnus
ReplyDeleteWhite people love to name their kids Pat, Sherry, Jon, John, Bob, Bill, William, Joe, Joseph, Sandra, Sandy, Ted, Allen, Alan, Al, Jen, Jennifer, Jessica, Sue, Susan, etc. You're right, we have to be more specific.
ReplyDeleteGiven that the Supreme Court ruled less than 90 days ago that a police officer may not seize data off your mobile device, even if you are under arrest, without a search warrant, why would police believe they can do it electronically and the data seizure is somehow exempted from the requirements of the 4th amendment?
ReplyDelete4:38. Ever notice how black women names start with "La" and end in "a". Ever notice they are always on their cells phone too. What's up with that
ReplyDelete4:38. Ever notice how black women names start with "La" and end in "a". Ever notice they are always on their cells phone too. What's up with that
ReplyDelete5:21 the police can collect any data they want. just if they collect it improperly it isn't admissible in court. and fruit of the forbidden tree only exists if the defense knows of the improper actions. so you can imagine a scenario where the improperly collected evidence is used to get evidence that is proper without telling the defense of the original improper action. I.E. I listen to your phone calls and hear you will be at Billy's at 8pm to throw away some old tires. The police then have a squad car patrol near Billy's at 8pm. Bang busted for illegal dumping. now use your imagination to see understand what this could mean
ReplyDelete5:21 you better learn real fast how the game is played before the game owns you.
ReplyDelete7:20 It could mean depositions where the police involved are giving the opportunity to purger themselves. *grin It could also mean discovery and calling the operators of the questionable equipment can purger themselves. It could mean cops going to prison for civil rights violations and all kinds of fun stuff.
ReplyDeleteAs for the game, I remember being involved in a case in the early 70s where a sheriff and his deputies did a stake out on a retail auto center. In the end two suspects were wounded and a third killed. To cut to the quick, after some enquiries the sheriff communicated that the stake out resulted from an informant tip. Unfortunately I knew the snitch and I knew he was working for the Feds at the time. Not only did the snitch deny providing the information, but he further related that the sheriff's chief investigator had contacted him and instructed him to go along with the story that he provided the tip. To keep this short, the sheriff and several of his top deputies ended up being indicted on a illegal wiretap, which is where he actually got his tip. True story and too bad for a lot of good cops who stepped on their dicks. So my advice is if you are the type of guy tempted to break the rules in order to get a collar make sure you are willing to give up your integrity for the rest of your life. Once you fuck it up you are done.
ReplyDeleteGlazer after all this time hasn't figured out nobody like a snitch and for sure a rat snitch.
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