TKC EXCLUSIVE!!! WILL THE NORTHLAND SECEDE FROM KANSAS CITY OVER CITY COUNCIL REDISTRICTING DRAMA?!?!?
Rather AWESOME TKC TIPSTERS got a hold of some entertaining e-mails discussing the redistricting process.
NORTHLAND WHITE PEOPLE CLAIM DISENFRANCHISEMENT AND TALK OF SEPARATING FROM KANSAS CITY!!!
Thankfully, City Council Lady Deb Hermann authors the only sane e-mail in this chain.
Expect more . . . And sit back and laugh as the Northland rages over injustices to their strip mall culture.
Redistricting Ordinance
On behalf of Forward Kansas City, I want to express my utter dismay at the disenfranchising of the Northland which will occur if the ordinance is approved submitting a change in the charter to the voters tomorrow. The United States constitution guarantees the one person- one vote rule. The purpose of this rule is that the value of any one person’s vote will have the same value as any other. Right now the Northland is substantially larger in population than other council districts, especially the third council district. Both and United States constitution and the city charter require that redistricting must take place before the election. Any attempt to deny the Northland its rightful voting privileges will be met with the strongest action available to us. We choose not at this time to state what that action could be, but it could include a number of possible actions from litigation to opposing the election or reelection of council members.
The size of the Northland is way out of whack with respect to its voting strength and size of its districts. The Northland strongly supported a number of you in the last election. Please do not make us feel that support was wasted or unworthy.
We urge you to strongly support what is right for the Northland and right for the City and oppose this proposed ordinance. We will be watching your actions!
Tim Kristl
Chairperson
Forward Kansas City
Re: Redistricting OrdinanceDeb Hermann
No one is disenfranchising anyone. Of course, we will redistrict. I fully support redistricting as required by federal law. Nothing the city council does can change this federal requirement. It has to happen and will happen. However, a few things need to be in place for redistricting to occur.
1.) Census data, which is not yet available. Staff has projections may be helpful but they have no information on the shift in minority population.
2.) Seven votes on the council. (I would comment on this but I can't stop laughing!)
3.) A process that does not further divide this City. (This may not be important to everyone but it is to me.)
It is my strong belief that best way to accomplish 2 & 3 is to quit fighting and start talking and listening. Clearly, this has become an emotional issue, unnecessarily. I am fearful that actions taken now will further hinder our ability to redistrict but, most importantly, to work together in the future. The redistricting process will continue and could be an excellent venue for healthy discussion and, in the end, a responsible, representative district map.
This comes to down to a few months difference. Time that can be used to achieve 2 & 3.
I have represented the 1st District well for 7 1/2 years. It saddens me to think that anyone would think that has changed. I want the 1st District to be able to celebrate being a part of a great Kansas City and be able to work with everyone across the City.
Regards,
Deb
Councilwoman Deb Hermann
1st District at-large
Subject: RE: Redistricting Ordinance (John H. Fairfield)
I am sorry but the south continues to ask the north to wait for its fair share, and in this case a few months matters a lot. PIAC recommendations will be completed and a budget approved before redistricting will occur next year. District lines matter in both of those discussions. We can debate whether they should, but I have participated in too many to assume they will not matter – by law for the PIAC allocations. This is truly a call to arms for the northland, and, though I hate to say it, an indication that maybe it is time to allow the northland to go its own way. 20 years ago legislation was introduced in Jefferson City to allow the north to secede or separate from Kansas City, and form its own city. It was that and a lawsuit which finally brought the city to its senses and triggered a redistricting – that was not perfect but fairer than no redistricting. Do you expect less now. How can anyone say they believe in the constitutional right of one-person, one vote, and support a Charter Amendment that permits the 1st District to be 29% and the 2nd District to be 25% larger than the smallest district.
Those that oppose redistricting know this is unfair, and hope to bully the Council into doing the wrong thing. If the Council gives in to this they will set back decades, not enhance, the unity between north and south of the river.
John H. Fairfield
Developing . . .
noooooooo
ReplyDeleteThe Northland was brought into KCMO against its will and suffered for decades with inferior or no services. Now they have the population and clout, and the old, broken-down, crony run city south of the river doesn't like it one bit.
ReplyDeleteCall it Northlandia.
ReplyDeleteGo! There's the door.
ReplyDeleteyes..no E-Tax for Northlanders....
ReplyDeleteI think maybe the south of the river crowds (the ghetto and the part of KCMO not yet taken over by the ghetto) needs to spend a weekend kicking this around before getting too big for your britches.
ReplyDeleteIf ya can't, then yes, succession would seem like a good idea. JOCO has managed to get along just fine without city hall, thank you very much. As has Lee's Summit.
KCMO will be a low class Raytown if you don't cool your heels! But suit yourselves. Look at the Los Angeles area. LA itself just isn't the main event there any longer! That's not where the money cities are! Hollywood and Orange county! Screw the inner city.
Maybe that's a good thing. Hand city hall over to Freedom, form a South Kansas City Missouri, a Kansas City North Missouri and let Wiley and all the morons in the center city go screw themselves with their big hotels, their expensive zoo, bad sewers, and P&L district and its dress code.
Screw them and their egos!
I virtually never actually enter KCMO's city limits except to go have dinner! Don't do the plaza, the zoo, downtown, don't do the museum, and certainly not the new bar district. What else IS there?
All the other good stuff about our metro is on the periphery, the 'burbs way north or way west or way south!! Thank god for 35/435, which guides us AROUND the riff-raff! Get rid of some stoplights and build walls, and we can use 71 to drive right through the badshit!
I bet if the northland secedes, so will KCMO south of 63rd in the corridor! Call it Brookside, Missouri!
And Red Bridge, Missouri. Change the name of KCMO to Freedom, Missouri!
Get the idea? Either Learn to get along or let's bring back Segregation, Missouri!
You fucktards!
They should.
ReplyDeletePut another way, another post with no meaning.
ReplyDeleteWorst Co-mayor and council without a doubt in the history of KC. Its not a wonder we are loosing jobs weekly elsewhere.Kc leadership is at an all time low.
ReplyDeleteRadio, I knew you werent really from KC. What compels you to comment so frequently when you are really not involved?
ReplyDeleteDear John Fairfield,
ReplyDeletePlease resign your seat on the redistricting committee immediately. Time is of the essence in regard to the work currently underway. Your missive clearly shows that you are not willing to have a clear and open mind to work through this difficult task. You are unfit for this process.
PS Redistricting will occur. Lines will shift. Northland will be further portioned out. South of the river precincts will be incorporated into mostly North of the river districts. Council members trying to keep current lines in place will be defeated either in council or in court. Rational people understand this. They do not shout threats.
ReplyDeleteHave a very nice evening.
The last chance for KCMO south of the river is to get the usual loudmouths to declare war on the US, lose, and then apply for foreign aid, just like the movie, "The Mouse That Roared".
ReplyDeleteDeclining population, rising murder rates, lack of jobs and development, and a victim mentality; not exactly a formula for success.
The residents who live south of the river should confront the same old self-appointed "leaders" who have done quite well for themselves by pursuing this losing strategy for years and demand change, or better yet, find some new leadership.
NONE of you are involved. You take yourselves way too seriously. Can't even predict who will be a bullshit democratic party leader? So what good are ANY of you?
ReplyDeleteYou're all contestants wearing funny hats and pretending to be excited, hoping to be chosen for today's 30 minutes of fame on The Price is Right!
As to that moron that thinks a lack of CITY leadership somehow affects employment? Utterly pathetic!
If that's typical of TKC's readership, well... heh heh heh. No need to go there.
Here's the thing, the North people have a point. Why does the only part of KC that actually provides a tax base get dragged around by its nose thanks to the ghetto.
ReplyDeleteIf they do split off, bye bye KCMO. We'll be talking about how Avondale and Blue Summit are up and coming suburbs compared to KCMO.
But what ye all forget is that the north is filled with city employees -- police, fire, airport, water department, etc... city services that would take a huge hit and mean a loss of thousands of city jobs, including their own, should this happen.
And if it does split off, those city employees that don't lose their jobs will be compelled to move because the city enforces a residency requirement. It is only of the only ways I have figured out that you can actually get fired for if you work for the city. It is a matter of immediate termination. They even have people follow employees home and spy on them if they think you aren't living in the city limits.
So on the one hand you have people who rightfully want to be properly represented, but on the other hand you have a lot of people who have to live in KCMO and thus choose the only part of the city (other than by Lees Summit) that has decent schools and a good quality of life. Those people aren't going to want to move should this take place and will probably oppose it vehemently.
The Northland is so self absorbed.
ReplyDeleteAnd the inner city of KCMO isn't self absorbed? Self absorbed in its crimes that no one can speak to? Self absorbed in the crime factories that are pumping out worthless high school students? Self absorbed in thinking that a mediocre at best place to live and way of life is a positive thing?
ReplyDeleteKCMO is just like I was when I unknowingly settled there as a youth. Childish and needing a lot of help to get better.
Well this is great. A city and a blog always looking for divisive issues. Just days ago, it was about disenfrancized LATINOS. That didn't fly. Blacks have always claimed disinfranchisement. Which is surprising, given they've run the KCSD and look what a circus THAT's always been.
ReplyDeleteNow its the Civil War again, north versus south. Arguments about who'se more self absorbed.
That would be funny if it wasn't so damned funny! The northland's always been quiet takin care of business while the snooty Brookside Waldo crowd of the LAST mayor's always carried itself like it's still high society in this town.
Meanwhile the real high society, well the moneyed people, have been over west of State Line for decades.
Seems to me the Hall's white fences are on the Leawood side of town, aren't they? Maybe Johnson County should just go ahead and annex Ward Parkway... for most people think that's Kansas anyway, don't they?
Hahahahhahahha! This is sooo funny!
Now comes the northland, not OLD Kansas City, but NEW Kansas City.
We'll know what part of KC is important when we count up where the Popeye's Chicken shacks are, won't we?
Tune again NEXT month, when the divisive issue will be where to put Kansas City's newly planned MUSLIM Community Center!
Oh, not so close to Don Bosco, brown people will get confused! What about the Koreans? We need to have Kris Kobach weigh in about the Constitution issues. What does the Mayor think? What does Alonzo Washington and Terry Riley think?
I suppose it would be racist of me to suggest that maybe if Arabs hadn't been acting like ASSHOLES for the last twenty years blowing each other up, we wouldn't have all this divisiveness?
Or am I confusing them with Jackson County politicians?
RM, you're an idiot. Popeyes is white people chicken, but you would think that just eating fried chicken makes you multicultural. You jackass, you show your ignorance in this post.
ReplyDeleteBlack people chicken is either Churchs or Go Chicken Go. That is it. And it's not just chicken fool. It's fish. Like Lutfi's. That's some fish.
I like Go Chicken Go, and I'm not black. I didn't realize G C G was for black people.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to leave go, but first pay back all of the TIF and PICA monies you have received over the years. Including the monies sent for the new police & fire stations. People that want to leave should be permitted to do so, but the monies you have received was supposed to be for the entire community, not just your community. Pay back all of the monies and hit the ROAD. Jack.
ReplyDelete12:04: If they paid, they'd probably still come out ahead.
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