The Star: Missourians to vote on Proposition C, which relates to purchase of health insurance.
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It isn't aimed at the President because he's black. It's aimed at stemming the unconstitutional expansion of federal power perpetrated by Obama and the Democrats.
ReplyDeleteAnd killing sick people!
ReplyDeleteThere is no death panel, only a committee of people who will decide if you get treatment that will allow you to live. Big difference.
ReplyDeleteRight now your "death panel" is a group of sub continent highly educated 3rd worlders unable to keep the lights on in their own country, deciding who will live and who will die. That is reality.
ReplyDeleteGive Patrick Tuohey and his buds at Market and Communications Research, Inc. a call, 816-268-8806, and ask him why he feels like meddling in another state's affairs is so important to him.
ReplyDeleteThe Health Care Freedom Act will prevent Missouri legislators from enacting state legislation that would establish penalties within an individual or employer mandate, or forbid patients from paying directly for medical services.
ReplyDeleteThe Health Care Freedom Act would not attempt to block implementation of any federal law as ...long as the federal law does not require an individual/employer mandate, or forbid patients from paying directly for medical services. Also, the Health Care Freedom Act does not preclude citizens from accepting/joining “Obamacare,” the proposed federal “public plan” or “national health insurance exchange.”
A vote "YES" is a vote for freedom. You can still received the federally mandated healthcare if you so choose. But, it gives those that do not wish for the government mandated healthcare the choice to say "NO" without penalty.
I'd much rather pay my doctor cash, meaning usually a large discount for services rendered than go through the hassle of insurance. That is my CHOICE now, I will not have that choice if this Proposition C does not pass.
I am in the poverty level in America too, but I pay for my medical bills OUT OF POCKET. It CAN be done, but it takes asking and calling around. Most people are too lazy and just want the hand out.
All you folks crying that health care reform is unconstitutional, ever heard of the commerce clause? The supremacy clause? Anyone? Anyone?
ReplyDeleteIf you're interpretation of the commerce clause stands, there is virtually nothing the federal government can't do. I don't think that is what the framers of the Constitution had in mind. It's not what I had in mind.
ReplyDeleteSupremacy clause. Well, there are still things that the federal government can't do. I think this is one of them.
You wouldn't be arguing for the supremacy clause if this was something you didn't want. I, on the other hand, favor keeping to the Constitution either way.
To those spouting off at the supremacy or commerce clause, how about the 10th amendment. For those that forgot it reserves to the states all powers not specifically allowed to the federal gov't by the Constitution. The Constitution is a power sharing document between the states and the federal gov't. It was designed as the ultimate checks and balances documemt. Asserting that the federal gov't has supremacy at all times or that the commerce clause can apply almost anywhere tears at the heart of this balance.
ReplyDeleteAre you saying that the health care industry isn't a part of "interstate commerce?" Give me a fucking break. Sorry that the nature of commerce has changed substantially in the past 220 years, but that's reality. Whether it's drugs/supplies made in other states or countries,the doctors/nurses trained in State A who practice in State B, the insurance company located in State A paying claims to a provider in States A-Z, and so on (and on and on and on), the commercial activities cross state lines and are absolutely permissible under the Commerce Clause.
ReplyDeleteLets face it, not an American on the planet that doesn't require health care.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans just want to poor to NOT HAVE ANY, so yes they're pissed. We need the following:
1. Health Care for all, same access.
2. Get Big Pharma out of our pockets with some price controls, or else an end to the benefits they get from the patent laws which are a license to STEAL from us!
3. Mechanisms to keep health care providers from defensive medicine causing unnecessary tests at the entry point. We just can't afford it.
4. If Today's medicine requires modern technologies like cat scans, then lower the costs by decree, make fewer sites available for cat scans to reduce their costs. We can't charge THOUSANDS for ordinary diagnostics. America just can't afford it! Fix that!
5. Figure out a way to eliminate the PREMIUM charged for ordinary goods, plastics, and others, just because they're labeled 'medical'
... we just can't afford the surcharge. It's killing our economy!
Yes, everything I disagree with Obama about relates to him being black. So stupid, but that's how liberals argue points - with diversion.
ReplyDeletenah nigga nah....fuk dat shit! bama plan stinks lik a hot ho on independence ave on a hot hot day lik today!
ReplyDeleteI don't recall "free healthcare for all" in the constitution? Someone has to pay for all to have healthcare, not me. I see folks with gold rings, watches, buying booze with a wad of cash and then buying steak with food stamps. They get in the Escalade parked at the curb and drive away. This country has gone to shit. Remember November.
ReplyDeleteRadioman, you surely are joking, aren't you? You demand price controls, lowering costs by decree, and eliminating premiums (whatever those are) on medical devices. You want health care access for "all", but want to REDUCE the number of facilities available to take care of "all". That makes a lot of sense, brings thousands onto the medical rolls and reduce the facilities to care for them.
ReplyDeleteYou don't want defensive medicine practiced, but your buddies who wrote the health care bill didn't bother with tort reform. You want doctors to take the responsibility for medical outcomes without giving them the authority to order the tests they need to practice medicine.
YOu want Big Pharma out of our pockets and an end to patents, but forget about the tens of millions of dollars it costs to get a new medication to FDA approved issuance. How do you suggest Big Pharma recoop the costs of bringing a drug to market? You may complain about the profits made by Big Pharma but forget about the lost opportunity costs of the money spent and the large number of drugs that never make it too market. Those cost something to develop even if they don't pan out. Learn some basic economics before you go cussing out Big Pharma. It makes great copy but it is a bald-faced lie, and you are smart enough to know that.
You and your ilk give the impression that you are so into class envy that you are going to enjoy bringing these rich doctors down. You forget the years of study and work they put into getting their medical degrees, when we were all out drinking and having a good time. This is still America and these doctors have a choice. And if they choose to leave medicine because of the onerous conditions we are subjecting them to, what happens to your health care for all mantra?
Do you want health care, good, fast or cheap? Pick two.
Radioman: Why would we Republicans not want the poor to have health care? That's a cheap shot comment.
ReplyDeleteThere are many good and noble things that might be nice but aren't authorized by the Constitution for the federal government to do.
For example, as a conservative I really don't think the federal government should be involved in education. George Bush pushed No Child Left Behind because the same program worked in Texas. He had the right to do it in Texas, but -- although I think it has done/is doing some good -- I really don't think the Constitution allows for federal involvement.
I think the Dept. of Education should be abolished. After all, the U.S. achieved its preeminent position in the world before the U.S. Department of Education.
Prop C actually makes it constitutional for employers to deny health insurance to their employees or opt out of the health insurance contracts that they have on the books thereby immediately stopping millions of people's health care coverage and yet nobody seems to give a shit. Thanks for nothing Mike Talboy and Victor.
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