TKC BREAKING AND EXCLUSIVE NEWS!!! ENDURE THE PAINFUL KANSAS CITY IRISH HANGOVER AND ATA BROOKSIDE TOY TRAIN STREETCAR EXPANSION STATEMENT REVEALING TROLLEY TRACK TRAIL PLANS!!!
Don't expect much from TKC today . . . Let's call it technical difficulties of the St. Paddy's Day kind . . . In fact, keep it down around here or leftover Irish coffee might be hurled the way of gentle readers at high velocity.
However, this regretful passage is worth sharing while trying to avoid the light of day . . . Remember that one of the highlights from recent festivities REPORTED EXCLUSIVELY BY THE MOST AWESOME TKC TIPSTERS was a Brookside Toy Train Streetcar rebellion against Mayor Sly.
CHECK THIS TRAGIC STATEMENT REGARDING IRISH BROOKSIDE TOY TRAIN STREETCAR PROTEST FROM THE KCATA!!!
One rather AWESOME TKC TIPSTERS NOTES . . .
"They admit that they maintained the trail to possibly use for rail again."
Statement regarding Brookside Parade
"On Saturday, March 15, Amalgamated Transit Union (ATU) Local 1287 entered a KCATA Compressed Natural Gas bus into the Brookside St. Patrick’s Day Warm-Up Parade. Parade organizers placed the bus among a group of residents protesting implementation of streetcar. The implication of this association to some observers was that KCATA is against streetcars. In fact, KCATA supports multi-modal transit options throughout the region, including streetcars. KCATA has preserved and maintained the Trolley Track right of way for over two decades with the intended purpose that it could support both recreational and transportation options."
Hungover people need to read that carefully . . .
THAT'S THE ATA TELLING KANSAS CITY THAT THE TOY TRAIN STREETCAR ON TROLLEY TRACK TRAIL IN BROOKSIDE IS CERTAINLY AN OPTION NO MATTER HOW BEAUTIFULLY MAYOR SLY JAMES SMILES AND MAKES PROMISES OTHERWISE!!!
Note to the Mayor's peeps . . . When you call to yell at this dude . . . Mention that Lucy Collett is the hotness no matter what form of transit she takes . . .
Note to bus guy . . . Tell Mayor Sly's henchman that Kansas City buses should be free . . .With a dying breath if need be . . .
We'll have more fighting and all kinds of good stuff hopefully later on in the day but for now let's wake up to the notion that just about everything associated with the toy train streetcar proponents is misleading and mostly thought up by Internets and consultant d-bags paid to compete with online skeptics when they're not pretending to be activists.
UPDATE . . . ATA TRIED TO SCRUB THIS FROM THEIR SITE, SO WE'RE GLAD WE GRABBED A SCREEN CAP WITH LINK STRUCTURE!!!
Click the image or the link for a bigger, better view . . .
Developing . . .
NO support for this in Brookside. Sly's going to take a very embarrassing L on this one
ReplyDeleteIt's so very sad that Kansas City has become so infested with niggers. Why should there be so many (if any) nigger cars in the parade? Who gives a shit about the apes "rims" and bling?? And why would a nigger even attend a St Pat's parade?? Only to teach their young how to steal and intimidate humans.
ReplyDeleteThe free bus proposal would be much less expensive, would benefit people who need a break, and bus riders would not have to put up with hipsters who would not be caught dead on a bus.
ReplyDeleteHere are 3 fathers who between them have 78 children with 46 different women and pay ZERO child support.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2159476/Tennessees-deadbeat-dads-The-men-81-children-46-different-women--theyre-paying-child-support-them.html
Who will pay for their fares on the Toy Train? Even if they ride the Free Bus, they are an expensive bunch. Can Chemo save the patient? There are not enough trombones for these kids if they were in a band.
Now THIS, not the Toy Train, not the new Bus, THIS is SO EXPENSIVE. Obama has SO MANY SONS!
Lotsa hoodies...
Idiot 5:41
ReplyDeleteIts my understanding that blacks have been in Kansas City for a very long time. If you don't like blacks, then you should move to some little town that doesn't have any.
BTW, its you who are the animal.
In South Africa (Read, America in 25 years.), the ANC (The legacy of the HOLY Mandela) does THIS when they don't want to pass a city budget they don't like.
ReplyDelete"In yet another example of South Africa’s pitiful slide into Third World chaos, a recent Cape Town city council meeting meant to discuss that metropolis’s annual budget dissolved into chaos as African National Congress (ANC) councillors trashed the chamber while dancing, singing, and waving mock AK47s.
The ANC “protest” as they called it, was held in the council chamber of the only city of the country not controlled by South Africa’s ruling party.
In expressing their objection to the new budget—which dares to asks “consumers” to start actually paying for services such as electricity and other utilities (instead of making the—largely white—taxpayers of the city continue to pay for everything), the ANC councillors chanted slogans, banged on desks, dumped documents on the floor of the city council chamber, and then began dancing the “toyi-toyi” dance."
http://newobserveronline.com/cape-town-south-africa-black-anc-councillors-trash-city-hall-dance-with-mock-ak47s/
Looks like the Progressives, or erh, Regressives have taken over. Welcome to the Utopia.
ReplyDeleteDid Glazer discover this ?
ReplyDeleteWell you have never been here Byron so STFU
ReplyDeleteThere is widespread support for a streetcar in brookside and waldo. Not many of us are Atu bus drivers. No offense, but a bus driver protesting a streetcar is like a teamster protesting a highway. The anti streetcar voice I brookside is the same minority that voted against it last time. Plus obviously kids like Bryan stadler form northeast and sue burke who doesn't live in the city and Atu drivers who also don't live here.
ReplyDeleteNot the strongest coalition...
The MetroLink in St. Louis has increased crime in that city. I bet no one ever considered that with this Toy Train.
ReplyDeleteNo there isn't widespread support for a streetcar in Brookside and Waldo.
ReplyDeleteThe Kool Aid your consuming apparently produces some pretty potent hallucinations.
Westport Trucky,
ReplyDeleteMake me bitch.
I enjoyed the Brookside parade it was very lively and colorful, but without the drunkeness and related inconveniences the downtown streetcar supporters are trying to cram down everyone's throats.
ReplyDelete@kclightrail is grasping at straws today obviously. Maybe it's about time to send the white coats to their tweet central for a quick mental checkup.
ReplyDeleteSheep Shagger, you need to settle your hilly ass down. Your way too old to be getting web bad. Old ass perv.
ReplyDeleteAll of my neighbors in brookside are for street car and other transit. The anti people in the parade were quite funny.
ReplyDeleteWhen the only tool in your kit is making things up what do you expect 8:53?
ReplyDeleteNo one can trust anything Johnson says over there. It's becoming obvious he is becoming a desperate boy now that a real opposition has emerged.
ReplyDelete8:56: I'd be interested in how you would know ALL your neighbors are for "for street car and other transit." I'm in the area, and I'm pro-bus (which I actually use), but certainly not pro-streetcar.
ReplyDeleteBecause I'm all knowing, and I'm right and everyone else is wrong. Everyone in Kansas City is for the Street Car.
ReplyDeleteROFLMAO good one 9:08!
ReplyDeleteBrook side was built and designed to be a streetcar suburb The neighborhoods layout is for streetcars and pedestrians it is it's raisin d-etre
ReplyDelete9:08's obviously been reading the Hipster Manifesto! And if we don't like it, we can always move!
ReplyDeleteBrookside doesn't want or need transportation that went the way of the stagecoach. Nor does it need a clique of hipsters to dictate to it how to live.
ReplyDelete9:11
ReplyDeleteWhat you're going to get is Raisins in the Sun every summer like there are now on the Plaza. These raisins will bring with them, the usual criminal intent seen now all over the US.
But go ahead, enjoy.
Either 9:11 comment is a parody or he is taking the grammar and punctuation part of the manifesto way too seriously and adding bad French (or dried grapes) for extra measure.
ReplyDeleteIt's called auto correct
DeleteI'm a 45 year old gen xer I have trouble texting sorry
Delete"In reviewing the 2008 ballot results, Johnson and the council stumbled upon something curious: There was no real correlation between the proximity of voters to a proposed rail line and their votes. Light rail was unpopular in both the Northland and in southern parts of the city, near where it extended to Bannister Road. Basically, people residing more than five miles from City Hall tend to oppose light rail. But people who live within that radius consistently vote in favor of light rail." December 04, 2012 The Pitch - Is the downtown streetcar a development engine or a luxury vehicle?
ReplyDeleteYes Johnson and Johnson figured out a way to get around a real citywide vote.
ReplyDelete"But people who live within that radius consistently vote in favor of light rail."
ReplyDeleteAnd that's only because they thought they could get added property values without paying for them. Now that their property taxes will go up, their pro-=streetcar votes will be somewhat more subdued.
If you anti street car people don't stop asking questions, and get in lockstep with the program, I am going to have to display my superior strength by crushing this empty plastic water bottle.
ReplyDeleteLOL will Glover crush his also in response?
ReplyDeleteBring in the streetcars and let more homeless ride into Brookside for free!
ReplyDeleteStreetcar should go down Paseo to Cerner. Case closed.
ReplyDeleteLike most brooksiders I have a general opinion about the streetcar (seems like a good idea) but am waitig for more details before deciding. Very few of us are influences by blog posts and comments as parade protests.
ReplyDeleteI have attended to meetings, one anti and one pro/informational. The save our trolley meeting was offensive. The organizers shouted people down, sad outright no pro streetcar questions would be allowed and acted like bullies.
The pro streetcar meeting was more professional, more informational and there was no "condescension" just answer that some people didn't like when they asked the same thinly veiled questions over and over and attempted again to shout people down.
It's not going to swag me. Facts will. I'll make my decision based on a matrix of financial considerations versus what I and many other see as a real benefit to our infrastructure and future.
But the timber of this blog and the more childish anti streetcar advocates is not helping your case.
Why yes. KCATA owns the trail. They're going to act in the city's best interest.
ReplyDeletenot exactly exclusive.
Byron D. Funkhouser
ReplyDeleteTick tock tick tock
Be careful what you wish for.
What 9:36 is saying translates into I am afraid of confronting a large, diverse, smart, well educated, savvy, and experienced block of citizens because I might actually be wrong and don't want to admit I've been gullible and stupid enough to buy into the scam this streetcar racket and tax scheme really is.
ReplyDeleteQuite honestly all I've seen is many streetcar supporters don't have much of an opinion on anything. They just buy what they are sold and never question authority.
ReplyDelete"But the timber of this blog and the more childish anti streetcar advocates is not helping your case."
ReplyDeleteOh, please. The pro-streetcar people seem to be the more childish--especially the one who always comes up with the clever "sue" and "Susie" couplets. And even the one today who claims all his neighbors support the streetcar. There's enough childishness to go around on both sides.
The sad part about this is this could have been put to a citywide vote and it might even have passed if all the numbers were right.
ReplyDeleteNo one wants to see downtown turn into the trash heap of the Midwest but not everyone wants to live in a downtown city center either. Trying to push that into peoples faces and make them pay for it isn't a very wise political move.
Asshole @9:46
ReplyDeleteGive it a rest, asshole. Either do something or STFU, stupid troll.
We'll see who's being childish very quickly. The truth is the citizens against a streetcar being run through Brookside, etc, are not anti streetcar. There is no need to run a streetcar through south KC neighborhoods that are perfectly capable of managing their own affairs. It's totally ludicrous.
ReplyDeleteFlint Lock, looks to me like you're the one fucking a sheep. Pervert, troll.
ReplyDeleteNO you can't expect - St. Louis billionaire Sinquefield to fund the "anti kcstreetcar" opposition.
ReplyDeleteNow put your tin foil hat back on Dave and take a pill.
TKC BREAKING AND EXCLUSIVE NEWS!!! IF I SUGGESTED BLACKS BE SHOT AND DUMPED INTO A MASS GRAVE, MY READERS WOULD PROBABLY GO FOR IT!!!
ReplyDeleteByron D. Funkhouser
ReplyDeleteMake me Bitch
Oh Johnson's starting up with that tactic now huh 10:12? Trying to brand his opponents as wacko's and freaks what have you or something?
ReplyDeleteHow this guy ever got taken seriously to begin with is beyond anyone's ability to comprehend.
No 10:13 only those that deserve it.
ReplyDeleteStop yelling, some people have hangovers.
Dave's been going after Susie since the beginning. She has has earned more hard won real world business experience then he'll ever attain in 20 lifetimes.
ReplyDeleteGuy's a total jerk
9:36 "like most brooksiders", here's what a lot of the fuss is about. The taxes associated with the formation of the TDD:
ReplyDelete1. TDD tax assessments hit all property within a half mile of trackline. Residential property owners on top of existing taxes are $.70/100 ASSESSED value, equal to $133/100k MARKET value. That is an 8.7% bump to existing property taxes which in BKS are fairly high already. Business property owners pay extra $.48/100 ASSESSED value, non-profits (churches, some schools, etc.) pay $.40/100 if property MARKET value is greater than $300k. City funds are tapped at the rate of $1.04/100 ASSESSED value. This is for 25 years.
2. 1% sales tax throughout entire TDD which will be from the river south to 85th and state line east to I-435. This is a huge bite, it is regressive and will hurt everyone but especially the poor.
3. The city funneling funds through this mechanism to the streetcar essentially creates a third tax because the city gets its money from us so expect the city to come ask for higher taxes to cover this new expense.
Voting in the TDD creates a new taxing authority. This will naturally appeal to those who think (mostly other people) paying taxes to the city, the county, the state and the federal government is just not enough. The TDD will be far less accountable to citizens than the elected members of the other taxing authorities.
Still think this is a good idea?
What I find most encouraging about this whole issue is that it has brought some of the most liberal and the most conservative people in BKS together for a common purpose which is to fight a boondoggle that will hurt many and benefit few.
"CPC just approved ANOTHER drive-through, this time on #KCstreetcar route. Policy must catch up with our intent."
ReplyDeleteLOL seem's like Karma is starting to catch up with these charlatans.
Come ride the downtown trolley and tour the miracle of drive through development! LOL
Free buses make more sense and would benefit more people.
ReplyDeleteThey lost the Jimmy Johns battle this should be interesting watching the hipster pandemonium unfold over another drive through going in downtown.
ReplyDeleteSo if you own a 350k nice brookside house you are forced into the Holocaust of having to pay $1 a day in taxes on a public transportation project that will raise the value of your house.
ReplyDeleteCRY ME A RIVER.
You Brooksiders forget that even as early as the 90s B-side was the red headed stepchild to Sunset Hills. Broken down old bungalows full of Eastside crime.
You all sand some wood floors and seal some stucco cracks and suddenly they think they live in the Ward Parkway Corridor!
Let you in on a secret: Your 1920s bunglow houses aren't as cool as you think. We all remember when they were garbage.
I was unable to attend the first anti-streetcar meeting, but it was my understanding that it was intended for just anti-streetcar residents of kansas city to get together and discuss their ideas for combating the city's plan to destroy the Trolley Track Trail. The mayor showed up unannounced and uninvited, and then tried to take over the meeting. I spoke with many who were there that agreed that the mayor was mistreated, but that's also pretty tacky to show up at a meeting and make it about yourself. Jim Glover tried to do that at one of our neighborhood meetings and I had to reign him back in.
ReplyDeleteLook, I'm sure that "everyone" that the pro-streetcar people in Brookside knows are like-minded. Those people probably only know people in their age group, and like four or five of their neighbors at best. What I've found in Northeast and from people I talked to at the parade in Brookside, is that most people don't even know much about the streetcar, and are generally intrigued by the idea of a train without giving the cost much thought. However, once you ask people if they place the value of streetcar over public safety, education, or sewer upgrades, streetcar becomes less popular. And that's the point. This isn't about "Do you like new toys?" But about "Can you afford this toy and still pay your other bills?"
UMKC did a study in Northeast and asked people to organize topics into their order of importance, and streetcar was number 14 on the list. Crime were the first six issues. In the online surveys we've done among active neighborhood association members, only about 40% said they supported streetcar (despite some neighborhood associations signing letters of support.) And again, when asked if they placed streetcar as more important than public safety or historic tax credits, streetcar dropped to last place, with like 17%.
So this is how streetcar wins; by disenfranchising voters and suppressing debate. The less we know, the better. If you really support the city's current streetcar proposal, these are the sleezy tactics that you are endorsing. Our city would like to pretend that the Pendergast era never really happened while in reality, it's back in force.
The City has already submitted a petition for Phase 3. Which means they want a streetcar hardly anyone one is going to use to run from 51st street to Cerner Corp.
ReplyDeleteTotally ridiculous waste of money.
Actually, the Pendergast era may have been underhanded and sleazy, but at least it was somewhat competent.
ReplyDeleteThe current gang is underhanded, untruthful, secretive, bullying...and utterly incompetent.
Please name one single aspect of actual city government that has improved since Sly took office.
Cheerleader in chief; and he'll be long gone and the rtaxpayers will still be paying $10-15 million/year in bond payments for the streetcar for decades.
The house of cards is about to fall down around these folks' ears.
The real cool thing about the Pendergast era was that people knew their place and smelly unkempt morons didn't go wandering into Brookside leaving their droppings everywhere.
ReplyDeleteThere were three people in the "protest."
ReplyDelete11:12: What is your point? That Brooksiders should be thrilled to pay an extra $365 in taxes per year for this new toy? Are you guaranteeing this will raise the property values? Could it be that just maybe we're happy with the area the way it is (which is why we live here in the first place) and might just have other uses for that $365? Like maybe paying a month's tuition for our kids at private schools because the public schools are such a mess?
ReplyDeleteBrookside is many areas. Some are broken down bungalows; some a little nicer. From the second part of your post I'm detecting a little envy that you can't afford Brookside and maybe are kicking yourself for not having bought here in the 90s.
But, again, your point is not very clear.
3 people? LOL have another "drink" 12:01
ReplyDeleteThat's weird I went to that KCATA link and got a blank page. Looks like they retracted the statement.
ReplyDeleteThe streetcar/ train will be a total flop and will require more than the 1/2 mile residents to begin to pay for it. If you live in Jackson County brace yourselves.
ReplyDeleteIt is a scam.
"Brook side (sic) was built and designed to be a streetcar suburb The neighborhoods (sic) layout is for streetcars and pedestrians it is it's (sic) raisin d-etre (sic)"
ReplyDeleteAccording to Wickipedia, "The houses in a streetcar suburb were generally narrow in width compared to later homes, and Arts and Crafts movement styles like the California Bungalow and American Foursquare were most popular. These houses were typically purchased by catalog and many of the materials arrived by railcar, with some local touches added as the house was assembled. The earliest streetcar suburbs sometimes had more ornate styles, including late Victorian and Stick. The houses of streetcar suburbs, whatever the style, tended to have prominent front porches, while driveways and built-in garages were rare, reflecting the pedestrian-focused nature of the streets when the houses were initially built. Setbacks between houses were not nearly as small as in older neighborhoods (where they were sometimes nonexistent), but houses were still typically built on lots no wider than 30 to 40 feet."
Santa Fe was built to be a trail to the west for wagon trains. Perhaps things change. If Brookside was designed to be solely served by streetcars, why does nearly every house have a driveway and a garage?
11:12, why should anyone take an uneducated math challenged salesman's word on this. Your hypothetical BKS $350k homeowner will pay $465.50/year to start. Home values near the tracks will go down, not up, especially those adjacent to the tracks provided they are fortunate enough not to have their home condemned by the city for "economic development".
ReplyDelete9:36, the meeting in Brookside was specifically to organize opposition. If you did not understand this I'm guessing you are offended only because you were one of the mayors toadies who thought they could crash the meeting ,take it over or at least filibuster. Their presence was an awkward and pathetic attempt to stomp out the opposition which evoked the necessarily firm response you claim to have witnessed. The mayor embarrassed himself by losing his temper and showing his contempt for a lot of people who voted for him and will not make that mistake again.
11:15 elBryan, you are dead on.
Case in point:
ReplyDeleteLabeling every undecided voter or even those who disagree with you "hipsters" or "toadies" isn't winning you any votes. And if you step outside the echo chamber of this blog and a couple Facebook pages you would know you need every vote you can get in brookside, because this neighborhood is pretty pro development, pro infrastructure and not very swayed by anti tax tea party stuff.
The streetcar opposition in Brookside are not tea party fanatics 4:41. I don't know who put that into your head but whoever it is, is way off.
ReplyDeleteBrookside is pro responsible development. No one there is interested in big corporate chains coming in and slapping up TIF financed glass towers and putting small local business people out of business with corporate chain outfits.
ReplyDeleteNext year is an election year for mayor and city council. I think we should throw all the bums out, and I voted for Sly.
ReplyDeleteDid you hear the latest. Another $43 million added to the streetcar price tag for Prospect Max bus line improvements?
ReplyDeleteThe Psycho's are running the asylum ladies and gentlemen.
Better spend some money on the Nigger problem, won't matter about the fucking Toy Train if you get on it and get shot, stabbed, raped, robbed. That's where the real money needs to be going. Free buses make sense. Way to much money being grifted with Toy T crowd.
ReplyDeleteBrookside was developed with the car in mind. Streetcars were already on the way out when JC Nichols started buying up property in the teens. Read up about Nichols, and his vision of neighborhood homes and shops, both with easy in and out access for the modern marvel that is the motor car. Every home was built with a driveway and an auto garage. Even the [plaza was designed around shoppers using the automobile. Google it.
ReplyDeleteThe real issue is are people going to wake up and realize they are being duped?
ReplyDeleteMay 7, 2010 - Are wireless streetcar technologies ready for DC to build a fully wire-free system? Not yet, but in a few years, they might be. Wires might not last for that long. Battery and supercapacitor energy storage technology is evolving so quickly that in a few years, technologies will allow longer and longer distances without wires, and one day, complete wire-free operation.
ReplyDeleteSo when KC falls behind the pack that means we will have to completely rebuild the entire system to "compete with everyone else".
Wake up Kansas City
Yes, WAKE UP. Don't build the kind of infrastructure that everywhere else, bigger and smaller, more dense and less is building.
ReplyDeleteDo NOTHING. Keep everything stagnant and declining. That's the secret to a successful city.
Just ask St Louis. When silly assed hipsters in Chicago wanted to build railroads, St Louis laughed. "SAVE OUR MISSISSIPPI BARGES!!!!"
Worked well.
Now the only are of St Louis that isn't shrinking is...along its TRANSIT SPINE.
Buses are transit.
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