Saturday, March 15, 2014

TKC EXCLUSIVE!!! KANSAS CITY BROOKSIDE ANTI-STREETCAR RESISTANCE DOMINATES SNAKE SATURDAY IN BROOKSIDE!!!



We warned you about this Kansas City power move . . .

And now . . .

THANKS TO TKC TIPSTERS FOR THIS REPORT OF KANSAS CITY RESISTANCE TO THE TOY TRAIN STREETCAR TODAY @ THE BROOKSIDE ST. PADDY'S DAY WARM-UP!!!

"Strong showing today by the anti streetcar crowd today at the Brookside St Patricks Day parade. They were marching 50-60 people deep all carrying signs. They also received some of the loudest applause as they marched by. "



Developing . . .

98 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Good for them.

Anonymous said...

Sly says. Too bad, it's coming.

the Polar Bear-son said...

Them Waldo folk are pissed at the TT.

Brookiesider said...

FUCK Sly!!!!

Anonymous said...

What's Glazer think about it ? LMFAO

Anonymous said...

Maybe if Sly screams them down they will realize he's the best Mayor ever! Everyone likes a trial lawyer when he gets condescending and sarcastic! Great platform for reelection Mr Mayor! Maybe after you lose you can go live with KJ in Cali

Anonymous said...

Maybe Sue 'Em Sue can sue to protect the desires of a small minority from the majority.

Save our Trolley Trail from its intended use!

Also, Save it from Imaginary Boogeymen!

Also, Save our Neighborhood from having the amenities successful neighborhoods have!

Also, the amenities we used to have that our neighborhood was built around!!!

25 of us don't like it, even if 56% of the neighborhood does!!!

Save us from living in the kind of neighborhood we chose to live in!!!

Help us, there are NO suburban options in the metro that we could easily move to if we didn't like it!!!

Save our homes on a 4 lanes trafficway from the non-existent noise of trolleys nearby!!!

Protect our children who play next to 4 lane trafficways where the cars go 50 mph from a 20 miles an hour streetcar!!!!!!

Also, taxes!!!! Don't make me move to JoCo where the taxes are higher!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

If you are loud, it seems to you like your the majority.

Anonymous said...

Ha. They got blank stares an boos from the crowd.

Gues Maryland politcal hacks don't know KC politics very well.

Anonymous said...

What the hell is a polar bear's son???

Anonymous said...

Nobody applauded. Look at the fucking pictures, you shills. Disbelief on every face.

Anonymous said...

Is that Patrick Tooey at work again??? That guy is a loser.

Anonymous said...

Don't you love how McGurk and the rest of the mayor's staff jump in here and start hammering the Brookside residents?! From 5:52 on its obvious! Your bully tactics won't work on our neighborhood!

Anonymous said...

Nobody will use the Toy Train, but we will see our taxes rise dramatically. When it takes 10 minutes to get Downtown in your car and 20 minutes on the Toy Train that drops you off somewhere you don't want to go...guess which mode people will use.

This war was lost 60 years ago when development jumped the State Line and JoCo opted out of funding regional transit.

Anonymous said...

5:56 that's the dude with his cock burried way up your wife's asshole. Guess what 5:56? She is backing up to the bear begging for more. Cunt face.

elBryan said...

I heard rumors of the group walking, so I took my family to check it out, and it was great. The Brookside residents joined with the ATA union, and they had a Compressed Natural Gas bus in their group. They welcomed my family, and I got a chance to talk to some bus drivers who were extremely angry/frustrated with Sly James and the streetcar plan.

I also met a lot of great people from Brookside, and the Trolley Track Trail was PACKED with walkers, cyclists, strollers, wagons, dogs, etc. It's no wonder they don't want a Streetcar running on it, or even alongside it.

I'm actually surprised that Dave Johnson and Matt Staub weren't there selling shirts. I figure they'll be in Westport on Monday, but if we're to believe that at least 56% of Brookside residents support the streetcar, Johnson and Staub mussed an important opportunity to show that support.

My guess is, the 56% number is from the 2007 light rail election when the entire city was going to share the 1/8 cent sales tax burden to fund regional light rail that wouldn't obstruct the trolley track trail. I wouldn't be surprised if many in the SMARTKC group voted for that plan.

Supporters of Modern Affordable Regional Transit is an organization that shares my values of providing basic infrastructure for multimodal transit, but in a way that respects the needs and budgets of the individual neighborhoods of Kansas City.

I'm looking forward to hearing more of their ideas because this is actually the first group in Kansas City that isn't just against taxes, despite what Sly, Staub, and Johnson & Johnson would have you believe.

#smartkc!

Anonymous said...

Grow up, Gunnar. We'll support you on Hale-Cook, but stop trying to ram the streetcar down our throats. OK?

Anonymous said...

No streetcar in Brookside. Vote sly James out of office for trying to fuck us all to appease a few libtards.

Anonymous said...

We attended the parade and that bus with the anti-streetcar marchers was awesome!!! So clean and quiet. And a somewhat smaller size than most of the city buses in use now. Perfect for the city and would blend in so well with other traffic. The city could probably buy a whole fleet of them for thr $50 million price tag of one mile for streetcar construction.

Anonymous said...

The streetcar is a very expensive and very stupid idea. It is a form of transportation that was deemed obsolete almost everywhere but a few tourist destinations back in the 1950's. It is little moe than a bus that cannot turn. Having a streetcar does not make Waldo the garden district of New Orleans. It does not make Brookside Blvd. Market street. Kansas City struggles with providing basic services, accreditation of schools, decaying infrastructure and a per capita murder rate that makes Chicago look more like Des Moines. This will be a money pit and the TDD will be just another taxing entity for those who think the feds, the state , Jackson County and the city aren't getting enough of the dwindling pie. The difference will be that the TDD is far less accountable to the taxpayer.

Anonymous said...

Streetcars became obsolete after automobiles became commonplace. There is no comparison. Who wants to walk a mile to wait in the weather and then board a streetcar, ride it through stop after stop after stop, and get off and walk a mile to your destination? That's crazy in today's world.

Anonymous said...

So wait your AWESOME TIPSTER said there was going to be a special guest. And it was a goddamn gas powered bus? whoop de freaking doo.

Anonymous said...

The bus with the streetcar opponents really was a beautiful sight. Said it runs on compressed natural gas, very cool. Wonder if Sly James has even considered making Kansas City famous for a fleet of super comfortable buses that go everywhere and have internet connections. That kind of city-wide service would serve far more citizens than a railroad track with 2 cars going back and forth.

Anonymous said...

I believe the tipster said there was going to be a special BIG participant. There was.

Anonymous said...

Who? Hitler? Was Hitler there?

If it wasn't Hitler I'm not interested.

Anonymous said...

After Sly's spys report back to their master about the parade and the the educating of Brookside and Waldo residents about what's about to be shoved down their throats, he's going to have to change his tactics. He has learned his bullying has no impact on Brookside/Waldo residents. We are not afraid and we will not be conquered.
We are organized and motivated and we will resist. The war has started and we just won the first battle.

Anonymous said...

jeez 7:50 guess Hitler WAS there

Anonymous said...

hey 7:51 What? I didn't see Sly there.

Anonymous said...

Some idiot at 5:52 said:

"Save our trolley trail from it's intended use".- The original agreement between the railroad and those owning property adjacent to the tracks was for the land to revert to those property owners.

"Save it from Imaginary Boogeymen."- Your hallucinations don't frighten me.

"Also, Save our Neighborhood from having the amenities successful neighborhoods have". -I don't see anyone trying to put a streetcar line through Mission Hills. You must have an interesting definition of success.

"25 of us don't like it even if 56% of the neighborhood does". - then you have nothing to worry about. Except that when we show people what the streetcar will cost them personally those numbers you tout may not be accurate.

"Save us from living in the kind of neighborhood we chose to live in". -Well, most of us chose to live in a neighborhood with fairly low property taxes, a nice walking, running, biking, dog walking trail with no streetcar.

"Help us, there are No suburban options in the metro area that we could easily move to if we didn't like it".- see "Hipster Manifesto".

"Save our....blah, blah". The only noise I want to hear is the sobbing of hipsters punctuated by angry outbursts of "it's not fair". Music to my ears.

"Save our children...blah, blah, blah". - At least drivers can avoid that kid chasing a ball. Streetcars cannot swerve, remember? They can only go where a track takes them. Versus a nice shiny fuel efficient bus which can pretty much go anywhere.

"Also taxes!!! Don't make me move to JoCo...." - see "Hipster Manifesto".

Grow up.

Anonymous said...

HA. You had me believing the SPIN tony, until that guy said look at the crowd. He's right. No one is into that.

Hahaha.

Tell Danny Coffee and Paddy Tooley that their spin backfired. Ha.

Anonymous said...

We were all laughing at you Stalder because you uptown white trash stink so bad. Go buy some deodorant and a comb.

Don't ever come down here again. Jesus.

Anonymous said...

The bus was brought to you by Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1287. Teaming up with the neighbors of Brookside who have "organized" to object to a boondoggle of a spending spree proposed by our City Council. Be afraid, be very afraid.

Anonymous said...

So 50-60 ATA union members who don't live in BKS and a wanna be hipster cartoonist from Northeast came in to protest an actual transit investment that would lead to more union jobs?

Brilliant. When you find yourself on the same side as Show ME, you're not making smart decisions. Union, taxpayer or otherwise.

No wonder labor is waning.

Anonymous said...

Fund the ATA more. Buses like the one displayed are a great compliment, but not an effective substitute for, a fixed rail spine. That's and economic fact, but don't let reality intrude on your suburbanite "nobody like my split level culdesac anymore" crying or your over-60 change-hating NIMBY reactionary blather.

Shit changes, old white people. Get used to it.

Anonymous said...

Go fuck up Northeast some more Stadler. Tear down another block or 2 and build more parking lots and more thouroughfares thru neighborhoods. Its worked so good for Northeast...

Maybe you should make a hilarious cartoon about that.

Anonymous said...

Johnson and his minions sure are out in force tonight on this post.

Anonymous said...

You mean his lemmings? Minions is to much of a compliment.

Anonymous said...

Street car fools on the prowl. They would never do this with their money.

Anonymous said...

Street car fools on the prowl. They would never do this with their money.

Anonymous said...

I thought I heard a hipster cry. It made me smile.

"Shit changes, old white people. Get used to it." - this is almost certainly written by a young white hipster who is too stupid to realize that one day, sooner than he thinks, he will be one of the "old white people" unless his resentment of others gets him boxed first through a heart attack or stroke.

Anonymous said...

About the only thing the trolley hipsters need is a spatula to scrape up their buddies when hit the wall up and coming here.

I'll be selling them for $5 bucks each at the next trolley hipster meetup where they run their game on an unsuspecting public.

Anonymous said...

Old white people? That's a racist and age-ist comment. Score, two for the price of one. Kinda dumb though.

Anonymous said...

A railroad track with two cars going back and forth. Now that's funny.

Anonymous said...

So the Streetcar Neanderthals are upset tonight?

Maybe they can build a time machine so they can go back 100 years where they'll be happy with all the trolleys clogging everything up.

Anonymous said...

8:55. They are so upset they are posting tonight on yesterdays story. Too funny.

8:53, like two buses going back and forth that cannot turn.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why the hipsters hate everyone over 30. Such angry hateful youth, these millennials. They will be over 30 soon enough, buy a compact car, buy a house, buy a second car for the family, have a baby or two, give in and have to buy the SUV to transport the kids and their friends to soccer and ballet after school, look back and realize they haven;t ridden a bus since they were 20-something.

Anonymous said...

I went to SNAKE SATURDAY IN BROOKSIDE today with my little cousin. We had a good time.

I saw a nigga trying to step to her and I broke my foot in his ass quickly. And slapped his ass in his mouth.

He said, "What's the problem?" I said you're a bitch…and I aint and I want to kick your ass.

Hid girlfriend step up and tried to intervene and I punched her in her mouth knocking out all her teeth.

Then I made her suck my dick afterwords.

Anonymous said...

Most disgusting post of the day. What is wrong with you?

Anonymous said...

Time to quit. That is just too stupid.

Anonymous said...

F-ing always high as a kite Hand. Costing the school district 2.5 million for 50 kids in his neighborhood to rehab a school that will never have more than 150 kids while all the other schools in the district are falling apart even dangerous with crowded classrooms putting children and faculty at risk. Now his selfish ass is ramming this street car bs down our throats while Brookside and Waldo pay the second highest taxes in the city already. He and his hipsters are going to bankrupt the city and the school district within the next ten years. Okay the district is already on it's way, he's just speeding it up for us.

Anonymous said...

So true. Ol Gunnar Hipster Hand is the most talked about behind his back hipster in Brookside. Sick of his shit, especially because he will directly profit from the streetcar design build. Where are the anti streetcar yard signs??? Where do we contribute to the anti streetcar effort ???

Anonymous said...

Juicy J,

They rant all they want but the streetcar is going to happen. We have a gangster Black Mayor

Haverkamp Langsford, Carriage Club member said...

Yep, those glassy-eyed dolts in the crowd are clearly rabid streetcar supporters.

Come on you moronic train cheerleader fucks, surely you can do better than that.

elBryan said...

I more or less like the idea of Hale Cook because of the dire state of white families trusting KCPS, but I'm glad you bring it up, because it illustrates the premise behind streetcar perfectly; figure out how to redefine "urban" from inner-city poverty to trendy white hipster.

The bus already serves Waldo/Brookside, and if the residents there demanded it, the ATA could make improvements to their service, but there are some (white) people who will never be seen taking public transit unless they can put it on Instagram.

Po Lar Bear said...

8:37 that was not a Hipster cry, that was the cry of a garden variety idiot. Nothing more.

Anonymous said...

Stick to the stick figures Bry-Bry.

Amateur urban planning and your new hobby of attempting to redefine words like urban in a racist fashion aren't your strong suit.

Unfortunately, as neither is "neighborhood activism".

Maybe cartooning for the birthdays news is you zenith, kiddo.

The adults in brookside don't give a shit what you and the other kids on this blog think.

Anonymous said...

lol epic fail tmj wtf boondoggle lolCat CK sux:

"their commenting on yesterdays story"

#angstyysuburban20somethings

Anonymous said...

8:19 which is why you keep commenting on this blog right? Because you don't give a shit what the opposition thinks

Anonymous said...

Uh oH, guys:

Actual Brooksiders with real people opinions have founded our online echo chamber for subrubanite 20 something angst!!!!

And some of them don't agree with what we think they should do about transit in the city they live in.

Come on, guys, we need to post 15 or 16 times a piece and say the same shit over and over:

"KC sux, I mean CK"

"I'm so glad I don't live in KC/I am a GROWN UP who lives in Brookside for decades, maybee even centuries, and 100% of people agree with me"

"IF they don't agree with me they are paid contractors/RussJohnson/David Johnson/Staubio"

"I'm a big grown up man!!!!"

"I pay taxes, and streetcars kill children and they are loud!!!!"

"Sly is a bully!!!! we need more meeting where no opposition is aloud to speak and if the mayor answers our silly planted question but we don't like the answers he is condescending bully yelling!!!"

"I'm a GROWN UP"

"Hipsters like it (that's bad!!!!!BAD)"


Come on guys, don't let real people comment in our sandbox. This is bullshit. I need constant reinforcement!

Anonymous said...

9:01 appears to be yet ANOTHER Gunnar monotribe.

Anonymous said...

9:25

20 something Lenexa angster scared that his play place got found by real people.

Anonymous said...

9:01 is that eternal student, living in his parents' basement, car hating, Caleb Michael Files.

Anonymous said...

OBVIOUSLY it's time for the latest version of the Hipster Manifesto to be released. You people just don't seem to appreciate all of our contributions to this bilge-filled backwater. Feel free to reprint our Manifesto, but PLEASE use the latest version!

We hipsters are getting soooooo tired of all the negativity surrounding the glamorous streetcar we have decided this city (using the term loosely) will have, so we are hereby issuing the fourth draft of our Hipster Manifesto. After all, if it worked for Marx, it should work for us. We think Groucho would be so proud if only he were alive today, and if he wouldn't approve, well he could always move. Even if Groucho would not approve, Zeppo, Chico, and Gummo most likely would. Harpo never said anything, anyway, so who cares?

It’s obvious that some people in Kansas City are behind the times and do not understand the contributions we hipsters are making to this once moribund cowtown. As incredible as it seems, some people actually (can you believe it?) object to the fact that they are inconvenienced by all of the benefits we are bringing to flyover country simply by breathing the air in this midwestern backwater. Well, all we can say is get used to it. We’re here, and we’re not going anywhere—well, for a while, anyway. The following are the new rules we hipsters are establishing for this burnt out burg. If you do not like them, you can always move.

If you live anywhere from downtown to 85th Street, we reserve the right to hold marathons in your neighborhoods on any and all given Saturdays we choose. You should plan to stay in your homes and off the streets when we hold these events. If you are so inconsiderate that you simply must get out on one of the Saturdays we have occupied your neighborhood, please plan to do so after we are finished with our marathons, as we will do everything possible to thwart any automobile traffic we see. If you object to our taking over your neighborhoods for a good cause, you are a whiner, a cheapskate, and probably an obese doughnut-eating anti-fitness freak, and you do not deserve to live anywhere, let alone in the pleasant neighborhoods we have decided to honor with our presence so frequently. If you’re Jewish and are trying to get to temple (we hear this excuse a lot—even from people who are probably not even Jewish), we’ll you’re not supposed to be operating machinery on the Sabbath anyway, so there. If you do not like this, you can always move.

We reserve the right to install any and all streetcar lines whenever and wherever we decide. Although we live in condos and apartments downtown that offer property tax subsidies, you are required to pay for the streetcars whether or not you ever use them. And don’t tell us to take the bus. We know there are a lot of them in this backwater, but buses are so Twentieth Century and are certainly not worthy of us hipsters. If you do not like this, you can always move. (Continued)


Anonymous said...

The taxing structure of the inevitable streetcar project was SUPPOSED to be a secret, but obviously someone blabbed. Yes, those who live within a half mile or so of the line will pay more in property taxes, and yes it’s supposed to be only for 25 years, but you know the city’s never gonna let go of that dough! And yes, the whole city gets to decide to impose this tax on the few who live near the streetcar lines and who also get to put up with the noise, dust, and all the other neato stuff that goes along with it. Well, so what? You should be happy the new technology will bring us closer to you. Why just having us ride within a half mile of your house should be worth something! And besides, if a whole state can vote to deny the tax breaks married people get to gay people, well, what’s wrong with the whole city making a minority of property owners pay a little more for the things we want? What’s good for the goosed is good for whatever. And a lot of people in Brookside and Waldo are gay, anyway, so they’re used to getting shafted when it comes to taxes. (A few of us hipsters are gay, so we put this in just for them; we do have to pander every now and again even if we don’t really think they’re as kewl as us.) If you people in Brookside and Waldo do not like our taking over your neighborhoods for such events as marathons and streetcars and paying for our new toys, well that’s your problem. You should of thought about that before you moved into such attractive neighborhoods in the first place, and you can always move.

Each and every streetcar line should have a stop at a Wal-Mart. While in principle we hipsters would not be caught dead in one of these places, in practice we do like low prices. Starbucks only pays so much, you know, and, let’s face it, with so many of us majoring in fine arts history, Wal-Mart is a good source of employment until we can get our real lives jump started or find a job at Starbucks, so, although we do like to keep it quiet, some of us actually have jobs at Wal-Mart and no cars. Don’t get us wrong. We certainly don’t want to live near a Wal-Mart. Heavens, no! Why, have you seen the kind of people Wal-Mart attracts? Eeeeeeew!

While we condemn any overt discrimination against people of color, we don’t really want to have anything to do with them (unless they happen to be hipsters, like us), hence our aversion to buses and our unwillingness to cross Troost and certainly Prospect. It’s all good and well to talk equality, but really, people! We are, of course, willing to use racism as a tool against any and all of our opponents. If you don’t like marathons, streetcars, and higher taxes for things we want, you’re a racist, in other words. See how well that works? If you don’t like it, you can always move to some Ku Klux Klan enclave in Utah or wherever.

Most of us cannot afford cars. (Starbucks only pays so much, you know.) And those who can afford cars do not like them, so we have decided that such car-friendly facilities as Kansas City International Airport are much too convenient and must be replaced with, for example, a single-terminal airport so that when our hipster friends come to visit us we will be able to hold our heads up and be proud of the fact that we will have an airport that is just as inconvenient as those in larger cities. If you do not like this, you can always move.

We reserve the right to make and answer any and all calls whenever and wherever we are, whether in a theater, a movie, a church, the restrooms at COSTCO, Half Price Books, a library, wherever. Our calls are much more important than anything you have going on. So what if you have to wait a few minutes longer when the cashier has to wait for us to end our call. Will this kill you? How rude can you get? If you do not like this, you should stay at home, shop online, and watch TV. Or better yet, you can always move to an Amish community. (Continued)

Anonymous said...

We are not going to be bothered by learning the differences between your and you’re, its and it’s, to, too, and two, “should have” and “should of” and all the other rules of grammar, punctuation, spelling, and capitalization. These rules are for the small minded, and we have our minds occupied with much larger and more important things like tweeting and updating our Facebook pages. You say a sentence should start with a capital letter and end with a period? we say who cares if you can’t understand what we’re trying to say well that’s you’re problem and you can always move

We hipsters think it's time to revisit the story of the emperor who had no clothes. In that story you will recall everyone believed the emperor was dressed in the finest clothing possible until a little brat offered his unsolicited opinion that the emperor was not wearing any clothing. Well, who would you believe? Everyone who admires the new clothes or the little brat? Please accept that we hipsters have a vision for Kansas City, and we will impose that vision on you, vote or no vote. So don't be like the little brat and spoil the illusion--er, I mean vision--for everyone. Never mind the man behind the curtain even if he does look a little like the mayor, in other words. And if you don't like it, you can always move.

We, like the employees of “The Circle” in Dave Eggers’ insightful book of the same name want you to “like” us and rate us highly. If you do not give us top marks, we will only contact you for further explanation and justification for not rating us highly, so you might just as well save us both a lot of time and rate us exceptional in the first time around. Remember, we’ve been rated “outstanding” all our lives for just breathing, and we like it that way.

In the future as we hook up and reproduce, we, like everyone kewl, will be moving to the ‘burbs. You certainly don’t expect us to stick around this debt-ridden hole once the price tag for the streetcar and the new airport comes due, do you? Hell, no! We won’t stay! Our helicopter parents cleaned up after us all our lives so far, and now it’s someone else’s turn! We, like Hitler, need our Lebensraum, although some of our best friends are Jews. And our new living rooms will be in the ‘burbs, probably even in JOCO if it’s still kewl. One of the neatest things about Kansas City is the state line. Once we cross it, presto, and all of the city’s problems are now someone else’s problems! It will be springtime for JOCO and winter for KC, so all you smug JOCO folks, so snug as a bug in a rug, watch out. We’ll be coming to your towns soon, and boy will we make changes there. You won’t recognize the place once we do our thing, and if you don’t like it, well you can always move.

Please feel free to suggest additions to the Manifesto. Like us, it’s a piece of work in progress.

Anonymous said...

Funny. Anyway your not going to get honesty from the James, Johnson, and the Downtown Streetcar minions clique.

It's all been one big reassuring lie from day one.

Anonymous said...

Just keep spreading the Manifesto.

Anonymous said...

More spam from the antis.

When your lies aren't working in real people, just keep patting each other on the back in chat space...

Them when real people find your troll board spam it!

Anonymous said...

What could be more ironic than a bunch of internet blogosphere 20 something's and cartoonist who lives in the city's first suburb calling actual homeowners and taxpayers in the city's premier urban neighborhood "hipsters" from outside the "urban core"!

You kids are precious.

Anonymous said...

As an actual no-20-something homeowner and taxpayer in Waldo, I say fuck the streetcar and the increased property tax it will bring with it.

You pretentious twits are a menace to society.

Anonymous said...

Stop your bitching street car is coming.

Anonymous said...

Here's the facts.
Main Street line will cost between $400,000,000 to $500,000,000 to build, millions more to operate. With the other two lines is jumps to $8-900,000,000 million. Who pays? Mostly, it is the low income folks through a regressive 1 cent sales tax increase. And then the homeowners who will not benefit anywhere near what they pay out.
Then there is the unfair voting structure. Create a huge area for a TDD and structure the vote so the homeowner can be out voted, essentially disenfranchise their voting rights. How fricking undemocratic is that!

Anonymous said...

@7:57 , Bear, "hipster" is merely a subset of the garden variety inspite of all efforts to be a unique subspecies. Subsequent posts confirm it was hipster whingeing.

Anonymous said...

The tax rates are this, for all real estate within 1/2 mile of the Trolley Trail:
1. $0.70 per $100 assessed value of homes.
2. $0.48 per $100 assessed value of business property
3. $1.04 per $100 assessed value of property owned by the City.
4. $0.40 per $100 assessed value of property owned by a non-profit organization, first $300,000.

Anonymous said...

Wrong. Where are you getting your numbers? I don't want this goddamned streetcar, but your numbers make no sense.

Anonymous said...

The numbers are from the FAQ sheets the City passes out at the information meetings they held since last year.
The numbers are correct.
Please do understand the difference between assessed value and market value.

Anonymous said...

12:32, if those are incorrect please post a source for the "correct" numbers.

Of course you can't because no such source exists.

Those are the numbers and trying to attempt a disinformation campaign will not work.

Anonymous said...

The numbers might not make sense if you do not own real estate . Owning a home makes you very familiar with how much tax you pay each year on it.

Anonymous said...

All you have to do is look at this web site. Sly has already figured it out for you:

http://www.nextrailkc.com/assessments.html

Find your property and it will tell you exactly how much the streetcar tax will be for you every year, forever. Your mortgage payment or rent will go up by this amount to cover this extra tax.

elBryan said...

12:53 FTW.

and LOL @ 10:16 AM! He just said The River Market and Crossroads are the Premier Urban Core neighborhoods!!!

Pretty sure those were created to be Financial and Commercial districts, and renting a loft for three years does not make your opinion more informed or valid than a homeowner who has invested in their neighborhood, and is being infiltrated by regressive taxes from a gerrymandered district for the purpose of replacing an adequate bus with an over-priced electric train.

The TDD goes down in August, and Dave Johnson is back next spring with a new TDD proposal that eliminates Brookside, and any other portion of the city that votes against him this time. Mark my words; and that is why TDDs need to be reformed. I want Dave Johnson and the businesses with stickers in their windows to put up 30% of the estimated costs in bonds before allowing a vote to form a TDD is even allowed on the ballot.

Put your fucking money where your mouth is. This is not how disenfranchising and gerrymandering is not how democracy and taxation is supposed to work.

elBryan said...

*** disenfranchising and gerrymandering is not how democracy and taxation is supposed to work. ***

Anonymous said...

Thanks for posting the link to that tax calculator.

I would have to pay $350 a year extra on my modest Brookside home. Over 10 years that's an extra $3500. I had no idea it would be so much.
maybe when other people start seeing the numbers in black and white reality will hit and they will drop their support.

Anonymous said...

There is one error in the tax rate table at 1220. The word exempt should follow $300,000.

Anonymous said...

The taxes are bad enough but all the unseen-hidden costs of this boondoggle are seriously alarming.

Anonymous said...

I hear downtown streetcar project is already 50% over budget at $150 mill costs and they haven't even started digging up to lay the tracks yet. it was supposed to cost $100 mill. Where's the extra money going to come from? I think I know the answer to that....

Anonymous said...

These cockroaches living downtown pushing this streetcar scam on people are getting sweetheart property tax deals on their condos that need to be looked it. It's no wonder downtown is debt.

Anonymous said...

Mine came to more than $200, but I'm within a half mile of the proposed route. What's the extra charge for us?

Anonymous said...

Ask David Johnson

Anonymous said...

Where's the extra money coming from?

From taxes on Phase 2 of the streetcar project.

Phase 1 can't pay for itself.

Anonymous said...

Downtown Loft - $404,600.00
Property Tax - $796.73

What a deal! It's no wonder they need this new TDD!!!

Anonymous said...

Small House Midtown - $110,664
Property Tax - $1,869.65

Wake up people!!!!

Anonymous said...

If a 500 thousand dollar downtown condo was paying the rates the rest of us do in South KC, they would be forking out about $10 grand a year not $700.

Now is it becoming clear?

Anonymous said...

You don't fool us we know your evil
And your methods are illegal

Good luck Streetcar pimps and pushers. Your gonna' need it.

Anonymous said...

Yea it's a Tony Exclusive but that is because Sly has the "Media" blocked. NOBODY carried the message on T.V.
You loosers are going to stay loosing because no one will ever get to see your message except on Tony's.

Anonymous said...

So are you telling me that the rich downtown TIF district condo owners are getting a better deal?
Does this sound familiar?
Does this sound like the same stuff that came out in 2007?

Are the same "special interest" guys trying for a little more easy cash?

Hipster, lol, more like Huckster said...

9:16 AM, nah, the Hipsters will amount to nothing, do nothing, and will live at home with their parents until the parents die, then they will tell everyone all these wonderful things they did with their worthless fucking lives. That the Hipster mantra.

Anonymous said...

3:51 = card-carrying LOSER. Must be a product of KCMSD to spell like that. And clearly a supporter of idiot Sly James.

Anonymous said...

3:51, I don't think this group will have any trouble getting their message out. They are waiting for Judge Roldan's ruling on whether there will even be an election on the TDD in its present version.