We blogged all of the deets of this case way back when it was first filed . . .
Now KCTV5 offers important reporting of the court proceeding . . .
KCMO police officer says he was discriminated against because of race
Basics of the case:
"In court lawyers for the one-time homicide detective, now patrolman tried to paint a picture portraying two current deputy chiefs and a captain as being racist."
On the other side . . .
"The defense is firing back. They are trying to lay a foundation painting Rives as a troublemaker with more citizen complaints against him than any other homicide detective."
The reality is that very real racial divisions within the KCPD have seemed to subsided recently for a lot of reasons but mostly (in the opinion of many insiders) because KCPD Chief Forté stood with the rank and file and against local control . . .But hard fought progress can be tough to maintain amid a changing political landscape, budget pressures and continued controversy.
Developing . . .
One guy's racial division doesn't represent all of KCPD. That's important to remember.
ReplyDeleteWho knows why but the KCPD has been a failure for so long it would be good just to fire them all and start over.
ReplyDeleteSo does think mean you going to be one of the new recruits, 7:12? I'm sure since you are qualified to comment on matters of which you have no idea, that must mean you are qualified to be a cop.
ReplyDeleteThe sell by date on Affirmative Action, Quotas, Set Asides etc etc etc passed 25 years ago.
ReplyDeleteNow, polarizing and pernicious rules which promote unqualified personell into sinecure exacerbate division and mitigate the effectiveness of any organization. The primary tool African Ameircans are taught to use in the marketplace is the color of their skin. It is the Hammer for which the zeitgeist provides an ever escalating amount of nails. Indeed, in many instances, it is the only tool needed, expected and wanted. A primogeniture birth right, based on "Protected Class Status".
Appearance in place of substance is the goal of these programs.
What does citizen complaints about an officer have to do with what is being alleged? The question is did or did not the Kansas City, Missouri Police Department discriminate against this officer? What connection does citizen complaints against the officer have to do with whether the Police Officials discriminated against this officer? Hopefully, the jury isn't brain dead.
ReplyDeleteIf someone hates his or her own race, is that reverse racism, Byron?
ReplyDeleteBringing up citizen complaints at KCPD is like asking if they sell hot dogs at the sports complex. If he had all these alleged complaints and they really count for something then why the hell didn't the P.D. act on them? They have an internal affairs unit, right? So he was still employed after all these alleged complaints so what was the disposition of the complaints in the files of internal affairs? This is just one more local government agency where the blacks want their buddies hired and they want to run the whole show even though they are a small fraction of the representative population. If this trend continues you wont be abler to get in the city building or get anything done unless you are connected to someone who is black. Just another example of why all the trolly cars in Spain wont fix what is fucked up with Kansas City.
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ReplyDeleteI don't hate my own race, I only hate racists. Reverse discrimination is a myth.
A couple of years ago, a TKC reader who works for the Kansas City office of the Social Security Administration tried to have my benefits taken away. The result was that I received a letter from the Kansas City office of the Social Security Administration saying that my benefits are longer subject to review.
ReplyDeleteThey are quite aware of what I'm doing here, & quite aware of the real motivations of these people who claim I am committing 'welfare fraud'. You don't have to call DC, or as Nancy Wilson said, move here to conduct a vendetta against me. These decisions are made right there in Kansas City. All you have to do is walk in & tell them that you've been saving every post I made on this blog, & that you demand that my benefits be taken away & they will jump right to it. But, be warned, they may laugh at you.
should be 'no longer'
ReplyDeleteByron, tell that to the hundreds of folks who were beaten during "Hate Whitey Night" at the Iowa State Fair and again at the Wisconsin State Fair.
ReplyDeleteI would submit, that there is no more virulent form of racial discrimination than black on white hate crimes which the Attorney General of the United States, has promised NOT to enforce because, they are black on white. He proved this, when the single, one and only white on black "Knockout Game" victim, who is black, generated teh Feds filing charges against the white perp. This is notable, becasue unless you are living in a cave without media access, you would see the hundreds of videos, news stories and commentary by folks, just now, conveniently, noticing the black on white incidence of "Knockout Games" inflicted by Black perps on White victims.
I would submit, that these links here, to hundreds of hate crime attacks by blacks on whites in the last 12 months, which were the situation reversed,would be national news 24/7/365, are indeed racist. Racist violent attacks by blacks on whites.
http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2013/09/recent-black-on-white-crimes.html
Reverse discrimination is the very purposeful, intended results of the many laws passed elevating blacks beyond whites by law. Affirmative Action etc etc. That is the very purpose of the law, categorically. Whether or not you endorse the law, or hate it, there is NO doubt that it is indeed, legal reverse discrimination.
Again, violence, the incessant violence against whites by blacks cannot be undestated and as it becomes more and more a part of the MSM, in spite of the MSM's best efforts, your position, in now way tenable now, becomes ever more ridiculous.
Reverse discrimination in the work place is codified legally.
Chuck, "Hate Whitey Night" has nothing to do with reverse discrimination. It is actually a response to the discrimination against them. Why do think they 'hate whitey'? Why shouldn't they 'hate whitey'?
ReplyDeleteActually Byron, you do hate your own race and have proved it time and time again with your comments. I think it is some weird kind of psychosis, which diagnosing would be out of my pay grade.
ReplyDeleteI don't think you can help it, having been brain washed by our Liberal American Overlords in the media, politics and entertainment for your entire life. Hey it's cool to be ethnomasochistic and laugh louder than all of your other white friends when Jamie Foxx goes on SNL, tells everyone how cool it is in the movie Django to "Kill all the white people".
Hating whitey is somehting, that in my opinion, you were taught.
I don't blame you any more than I blame D Bowe for going to the well for a Civil Rights defense. It is just what you know.
I gotta go to work now, but Byron, the question itself--
ReplyDelete"Why shouldn't they hate whitey" says it all.
ReplyDeleteBlack racists concoct icons to justify their bigotry and hatred.
Black racists require an icon to excuse their irrational hatred of white people. That icon can be made manifest in a personality or in an event.
To achieve iconic standards that justify belligerent hatred, relative facts must be obscured. In other words, black racists must concoct lies and accept those lies as reality. They are called 'false positives.'
The most apparent iconic event is the historical blight of black slavery. The black racists' narrative follows this simplistic line: White people bound black Africans in chains, stock-piled them like animals in slave ships, and delivered them to forced labor under brutal conditions fostered upon them by white plantation owners.
That narrative is a lie.
The facts are: Blacks transported from Africa were already slaves prior to being sold to traders by their black owners, typically chieftains who acquired their human chattel during tribal warfare. The economic value of those slaves compelled European traders to assure their health during transport. Chains were often required to prevent the African passengers from harming one another as inter-tribal hatred was apparent. (Keep in mind Europeans who sought a new life in colonies also endured brutal conditions as they sailed across the Atlantic.) Honest historians, such as Henry Louis Gates, Jr., are careful to explain that tens of thousands of black slaves were owned, not by white plantation owners, but by free black Americans. Their living conditions improved, being housed in wood frame structures often better than the humble abodes of many white people, such as Abraham Lincoln's cabin.
Rosa Parks, Emmett Till, and Trayvon Martin provide individual icons that justify black-on-white racism. Black racists wallow in the tragic ends of angel-faced street thugs like Till and Martin, but never give consideration to violent black crime, particularly that committed against whites that compelled tolerant whites to segregate Montgomery's buses. Oprah, in particular, makes much ado of Till and Martin.
Published as nonfiction in 1976 and produced as a spectacularly successful mini-series a year later, Roots: The Saga of an American Family gave progressives the perfect pedagogical tool with which to instruct their less enlightened brethren in the quiet horrors of American culture. In fact, it quickly became the dominant narrative, a curriculum standard, a veritable sacred text.
ReplyDeleteIn the book, Haley quietly laid out an indictment against the United States that was always loaded and often gratuitous. Improbably, it was whites who entered Kunta Kinte's forest and enslaved him, not Arabs or other blacks. Conveniently unconscious through the period of transaction, Kinte saw no black, Arab, Portuguese, or Spanish slave traders, only Americans. As the rare Muslim captive, Kinte was well positioned to reject Christianity as crude and hypocritical. Fortuitously sent to revolutionary Virginia, Kinte was able to dismiss the birth of America as inherently fraudulent.
The real fraud, of course, was Haley, who plagiarized large sections of the book and made up what he didn't steal. Neither a punishing lawsuit for copyright infringement nor the unraveling of Haley's fake genealogy dimmed his star. The book and video remained a staple in history classes across America.
9:39 & 9:45: Interesting. Given what's going on in Africa now, it would seem to me that African-Americans who were born here may well owe reparations to the descendants of those who brought them here.
ReplyDeleteChuck do not use a four letter word at Byron such as work. Use words Byron knows.
ReplyDeleteRemember kids, racism only means whites hating other races, never the other way around.
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I don't hate my own race. I don't hate the black race, either. That's the real issue. The only people who say I hate my own race, or call me a racist, are people who hate the black race.
ReplyDeleteByron, I don't hate the black race, and I say you hate your own race--sometimes it seems you hate even your own species.
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting that you say such things as, "Why shouldn't they 'hate whitey'?" When you won't grant any validity to reasonable posts calling into question the stereotypes of da man be holdin' back da brother.
And I say that as a person who has known and still knows many--MANY--black people who are at least middle class and even some black Oklahoma oil millionaires who can buy and sell just about anyone who posts here.
Byron is black folks! Not one white person in the world would stick up for all the killings that the black do. He blames the white man for everything. Fucking Abraham Lincoln!
ReplyDeleteIf you people had any sense, you would ignore the growing troll problem on TKC. But instead, you morons entertain, invite, and encourage it. Well done.
ReplyDeleteAnon 11:30
ReplyDeleteI'm not justifying it, I'm explaining it. Why shouldn't they "Hate Whitey"? Its not an unreasonable question. They experience racism, not the phoney reverse racism the white's complain about, but the real thing almost every moment of their lives. Anyone who denies that is a liar.
Troll 12:41
ReplyDeleteStop calling me a troll & I'll stop calling you a troll.
You'll notice that the troll is attempting to divert attention from its trolling by pretending to be legit. This is the first sign this is a real troll. They have nothing to offer, except to get you to respond. You don't respond to it, the desperate cries become louder and louder until they finally sulk away to another blog to pollute and annoy.
ReplyDeleteTroll 2:18
ReplyDeleteYou are describing your own behavior. I've been here for four years. Anonymity is the hallmark of the troll.
Byron lies about having a free pass. EVERYTHING is subject to review!
ReplyDelete1-800-269-0271 SSA FRAUD !
12:41 & 2:18: I think it's funny to see Byron's responses to people who point out how illogical his posts are. He reminds me very much of a person I know who has Aspberger's and will only acknowledge "facts" that fit his preformed opinions. He's been that way all his life, and he's even older than Byron.
ReplyDeleteWell what an idiot he is. I have found out your benefits can be changed at any time if a valid reason is shown. Now Byton can say what he wants which as a rule is wrong but he is only running damage control and trying to get folks to back off on making any complaints. Oh by the way fool send this letter to Tony so he can post it on here. I want to see who signed it. Then we will see who is going to start sweating bullets. Plus Byron, I can assure you I won't be making no half ass complaint. I as well promise you will be investigated very well. I am being coached on this and it will rattle many a cage before it is all over.
ReplyDeleteBullshit. You're just a troll being a troll.
ReplyDeleteI love how anonymous cowards demand full disclosure from real people. You won't even use your name.
Now, I have to send Tony a copy of the letter? Why? In your universe everyone on disability is committing fraud. These are just childish threats. Its already been tried. Nothing that you can tell them will negate the information (medical records) that they already have. You be careful that you are not investigated for making threats like this. What you are doing is a crime.
ReplyDeleteWhite Knight= Racist
ReplyDeletewww.socialsecurity.gov
Lets see the letter!!!!
Unbelievable stupidity.
ReplyDeleteLike I said, they understand your real motivation.
ReplyDeleteAnon 6:23
ReplyDeleteThere will be no investigation. Nothing that you can say, or show them, will persuade them. You're just a pathetic stalker.
Late night big /TALL man talk. Scared of Nancy.
ReplyDeleteByron is a liar. He has no letter!
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ReplyDeleteGuess you better show the letter Byron. Otherwise...
Why does every single thread end up with Byron calling attention to himself and acting like he knows more than anyone else? This is the first time I've said anything about him at all. I'm just tired of him interfering with any real discussion of issues and making himself the topic.
ReplyDeleteActually 2:37, I was hoping to put an end to this silly nonsense. Why on earth would I be afraid of Nancy, or anyone else for that matter. I'll be 60 years old in two months. My disability will soon convert to retirement. Will you give me examples of people who still worked past 65 to demonstrate your need to feel superior?
ReplyDeleteThis thread has been off topic almost the entire time. If this wasnt deliberate then Byron is just a natural troll.
ReplyDeleteThis thread has been off topic almost the entire time. If this wasnt deliberate then Byron is just a natural troll.
ReplyDeleteByron provides round-the-clock entertainment. It's kind of like Duck Dynasty for those of us without cable.
ReplyDeleteAh! I see, 7:50am. Carry on, then! Byron's response was totally incoherent. I have no idea of who Nancy is and I don't think my one and only comment...that I was sick of every thread being about Byron...indicates that I have a need to feel superior. I just have a need for a break from Byron's unending BS. But I can answer one of Byron's questions. People who have experience and knowledge get consulting work long after their 65th birthday. Some even start second careers after 65. I really don't know why you claim that you can't work when you can obviously sit on the internet for hours on end.
ReplyDeleteSee, I told you ...
ReplyDeleteAll anonymous people are superior to real people. That's trolldom. I really don't give a fuck about this anymore. I'm none of your business.
11:27: I didn't mean to imply you had a need to feel superior. I merely said Byron provides round-the-clock entertainment. He makes me feel superior. (As in, if that's the way someone with an IQ of 129 thinks, thank heavens I'm stupid; of course, we don't know what the standard deviation was--or whether it was 129 based on that average in W. Va. being 100--on the alleged IQ test, but that's another matter entrely.) What effect he has on anyone else is their business.
ReplyDeleteChuck at 8:17 am.... are you certain that you are not, in reality, Dennis Miller?
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