Thursday, August 17, 2017

Sound Of Kansas City 18th & Vine Crisis

Think tank consideration of millions directed to an East Side party district without much economic benefit or a sustainable biz model:

Jazz, Race, and Crime in Kansas City

The editorial board of The Kansas City Star recently published a column wondering why more people do not attend events at 18th and Vine, or more specifically, why they did not go to Kansas City's Jazz and Heritage Festival over Memorial Day weekend.

14 Comments:

Anonymous said...

No New TAXES

Anonymous said...

DUI check points keep me out of KCMO. Driving down the street is not probable cause.

Anonymous said...

Avoiding parts of town where the locals shoot at each other seems a wise move. That part of town needs to grow up.

Anonymous said...

This is such bullshit. You want to some racism go to New Orleans. And Memphis is such shit hole with a ton of black crime like KC has. Who wants a jazz only lineup? Look who New Orleans brings in. As for 18th & Vine, it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths. Everyone knows what a scam Cleaver and his fellow grifters ran and are pissed off about it. Fact of the matter is when black people are in charge of something they will absolutely fuck it up. To the south and east of the Jazz District is the fucking ghetto. People do not want to be so close to places where they are surrounded by a massive criminal element.

Anonymous said...

The cleave's buddies don't want white people there, this was built for the blacks. I tried to get a job down there once and was told I couldn't because this was a "blacks only" job. I wasnt offended or bothered about it. This truly is a blacks only area. Problem with that is the blacks won't go there unless it's all free.

Anonymous said...

Tear it down

Northlander said...

Need better parking

Anonymous said...

Tear down the Jazz and Negro baseball museum.
They are offensive and divisive.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone in there right mind intentionally want to go party with boons? If Charlie Parker had been white they would have never pumped all the tax payer money into that 18th and Vine farce.

Anonymous said...

In the cleaves mind it's only a couple hundred million dollars of white taxpayer money, he don't care

Anonymous said...

I won't go there out of principle. Cleave and crew steal taxpayer money so they can pat themselves on their backs and say look what we did for our " community." If this ding dong ran a funeral home no one would die. Business sense near zero. It's not racism - just such a poorly conceived business plan. These "racists" pack Arrowhead every other fall Sunday. Wise up.

Anonymous said...

Let's not forget the Star's editorial (or maybe guest contributor) who attempted to make the argument that: 18th & Vine is failing because of white people's innate racism? WTF, I have to question whether this was a published troll piece or if that racist writer truly believes that? 18th & Vine was the beneficiary of a large amount of tax dollars collected primarily from white people. The "if you build it they will come" motto is from a movie for a reason; in real life it simply doesn't work. Yes, yes, you can point to the street car, but those ridership numbers are inflated and its a "freebie" attraction that can't and won't ever self support.

I don't go to 18th & Vine except for Arthur Bryants, and then only at lunch. Except the last time I went, a clearly violent gang banger was throwing a series of coordinated hand gestures at another black guy who had workman's clothes on, and was SERIOUSLY intimidated. I kept my eyes peeled at the gang banger who slightly pulled back his long heavy jacket (in the middle of summer) after making the gestures, clearly showing something in his waistband. Why would white people want to be around this type of behavior? It's not our community. And BTW, I like Jazz, and have a bunch of digital recordings of Ella Ftizgerald, Louis Armstrong, Dukes of Dixieland, etc.

Anonymous said...

BTW, if anyone still listens to old Jazz, and can't find it anywhere. Reply a comment here and I'll post some links to where I downloaded it. Maybe a little questionable in legality, but it is my strong belief that the music must be preserved, and all the artists that may have benefited from royalties are long dead, and probably their children too.

Anonymous said...

I like jazz and plenty of other music. What I do not like is this subterfuge of using jazz to promote black interests. Jazz music was in no way dominated by black musicians or black history in spite of the current ideal that history can be rewritten on a whim from some black folk or some city operated by a pack of libtard apologists thinking they are puissant.