Whilst Prez-Elect Trump has been engaged in a Twitter tirade . . . TKC Blog Community member SUPER DAVE offers his more even-handed analysis an insight into the recount process and electoral college debate. Take a look:
Super Dave: Yes The Electoral College Works
The 2016 presidential election is over, or is it? America is now entering into the Christmas holiday season and in years past when a presidential election was held the least talked about issues were those complaining and protesting because their choice of candidate lost. The Electoral College was designed for a reason and this election proved without a doubt why it was created and why it is a very important part of the presidential elections in our country. One has to only go back and look at how the country voted to understand how the electoral process works. If a person is unable to study how the electoral vote works I rather questioned their ability to even be able to consciously pick a candidate based on that candidate’s ability to be a leader. The groups that we are seeing doing most of the protesting are the same groups that probably promote the everybody is a winner outlook on life. We can’t all be winners, I know, I’ve not been a winner “all my life”, I’ve never expected to be a winner all my life. If you look at each states demographics on how they voted it’s very easy to see the areas that Hillary exceeded in votes are the areas with the larger number of government supported families and heavily populated areas that as a rule contain our largest cities. Also included in those areas as a general rule is a large university or several universities filled with students looking for free handouts to get their education something the Democrats feel is needed.
You take the total number of voters in California, who voted this year, that tally comes to over 13 million voters. California is our third-largest state; second-largest state is Texas where 8.9 million people voted. If you take the states of Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, Oklahoma, and add the state of Texas to the total of those who voted, you then have enough people that voted to exceed those of California by app 1.8 million voters. So it took six states here in the Midwest to have more voters than the state of California alone. Of the six states listed here Hillary was defeated by over 2 million votes. This is why there is a need for the Electoral College, and why the results of the Electoral College should stand as they are right now. The populations of a few dense areas of population should not dictate policy or political choice over the country as a whole. The Electoral College is a significant tool in balancing overall decision-making on candidates in our country. What I find interesting about this protesting is take Kansas City for instance, a streetcar was built based on the view and votes of a given few, the city as a whole was not allowed to have a say at on the whole process but are being dependent upon to pay for it. An electoral based election in Kansas City would not have let the streetcar be built. So in short see how this works?
Hillary conceded the presidential race in the early hours the day after the election. She knew she had lost, she also knew she was leading in the popular vote as well but only in certain demographics. Her whole campaign knew she lost, that’s why she conceded as every other presidential candidate who has lost as ended up doing. But for some reason the give me’s, the we are not supposed to lose people, can’t accept that the whole of America does not agree with them. The nation is divided right now and it’s not by race and it’s not by racism, it’s divided by those who are thumbing their nose at all the hard-working people who sweated and toiled building this country. Jill Stein is another person who I agree with some other political analysis in saying she’s using this recount as a fundraiser for her party. If that’s what she wants to do I’m fine with that. But she’s not ordering a recount to benefit her, she’s ordered a recount in hopes of benefiting Hillary’s supporters. And in any recount motion that is filed I feel that the whole of America is deserving of a list, of all the donors to be made public that supported this recount.
The behind-the- scenes of political dueling, of political bargaining and under the table payoffs needs to all start being made public to the citizens of this country. No longer should the citizens of this country have to tolerate devious political actions, devious elections, along with mass media hysterics, lies and attempts to control our country. The owners of the Washington Post, CNN and all the others; who on a daily basis attempt to brainwash and persuade the citizens of our country, to follow their political hacks, should all start being held accountable for their actions and thoughts. If mass media wants to be able to shove down our throats anything they feel is acceptable, they should also allow comments to be made on their publications by the citizens of this country in a form of free speech that is open to all. As Chuck would say, “What’s good for the goose, is good for the goose-stepping gander.”
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Nice work Dave.
ReplyDeleteI agree with a lot of what you said here, mostly about the media created controversy.
In the end, even Al Gore decided to do what was best for the nation and not put us through a recount where even more people lost faith in their votes.
Fuck al Gore, fuck Jill Stein, fuck Hillary and sure as hell fuck Donald Trump.
ReplyDeleteCountry's headed for another civil war.
ReplyDeleteFigured it'd be another decade or two away but might as well overturn this election and get to it.
This has to be one of the strangest arguments ever in explaining the Electoral College. Even given the opaque writing style, it's still possible to see that the writer is arguing that some people's votes should count more than others. It's not clear, however, why the writer believes this or why it might, in some way, be defensible.
ReplyDelete8:08, if you think our the electoral college process isn't defensible then you must think our making laws via the house of reps and senators isn't defensible. the electoral college is nothing more than the sum of all the reps and senators from each state.
ReplyDeleteWe're heading for a Maoist insurrection
ReplyDeleteHomelessness is only a problem when there's a GOP president
ReplyDeleteThe debt is only a problem when there is a GOP president
Race is only a problem when there is a GOP president
The electoral college is only a problem when there is a GOP president
And on and on and on
^^^^Good Points
ReplyDeleteWhat happens when you ask an imbecile a question?
ReplyDeleteRe-read The Words of Stupor Dave and find out.
There's really no controversy.
ReplyDeleteJust a desperate attempt to get some attention and raise some money by a pitiful third party candidate who got around 2% of the vote in the general presidential election.
And Jill Stein is the biggest flake of all the candidates, which is saying a lot in itself.
All the superficial entertainment will continue, but the election is actually over.
Time to get serious and find some people who actually know enough to at least try to put together some coherent policies and govern a nation of 330 million.
Please fasten your seat belts.
8:57 just proved what an imbecile they are.
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YASS!
DeleteThe 2016 presidential election is over, or is it?
ReplyDeleteYes it is. Thanks.
Chuck has also called for the genocide of blacks and Muslims, why don't you quote him as an authority on racism?
Jesus Stupor Dave you hit a new low daily.
We need some common sense here. I am afraid the tweeter in chief isn't helping the nation heal.
ReplyDelete9:48 you Hillary lovers need to all go away and STFU.
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9:48 gobbles the goop
ReplyDelete10:29 squeezes out the poop.
ReplyDeleteThis is some highly concentrated stupid right here.
ReplyDeleteClintoon Nasty Network, along with the usual mockingbird media minions, continue their efforts to TRASH TRUMP in hopes of a CLINTON CORONATION!
ReplyDeleteAfter President Trump is sworn in, that special prosecutor is heading up the long overdue: U.S. vs. ToHellWithHillyHijinxHavingThatUnsecuredServer, U.S. vs. HadItUpToHereWithLiarsAnd Crooks, U.S. vs. ShortCircuitsAndFaultyMemoryAreNoDefense, U.S. vs. ClintonFamCharityScam, and U.S. vs. WhiteHouseFurnitureAndFixturesRecountsPlusReimbursementsDueToSuperGlueAndNailItAllDown !!!!!
CNN made a billion dollars with the Trump campaign. A ballot recount stands to make them earn even more!
ReplyDeleteThe only reason for the electoral college was the fear of a true democracy and demagoguery. The elite founders were afraid of the passions of the unwashed, uneducated masses. Recall that Senators were originally elected by the state legislatures. There is no real argument for protection of less densely populated areas. We do not elect people to represent square footage. We elect people to represent people. The question you MUST ask yourself is: Have we matured as a nation enough to responsibly directly elect the President?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you expect from a guy who mourned pedophile Uncle Ed returning to prison for breaking his probation orders?
ReplyDeleteWhile the Clintonistas are indeed poor losers President-elect Trump is becoming a sore winner.
Super Dave makes Glazer look like a genius.
^^^^^When you can't address the issues, it's always nice to have an ad hominem attack available.
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When the author doesn't even touch on the real issue, changing the system would require a Constitutional amendment, you have to realize the author is clueless.
I think Super Dave covered the story very well and I found his thoughts to be on point. You haters in here would find fault in a 100 pound gold bar. 2;06 if I remember right a local convict was the person who was attacking Ed and Ed got sent back on a technicality.
ReplyDeleteA lot of things work but are actually antiques that no one needs. This country has an electoral college so the two party system can keep control. The rest of the "reasons" and comments are all B.S.
ReplyDelete^^^^^^^^^^Look stupid you can't have a small portion of the heavily populated areas controlling how the whole country should be.
ReplyDelete9:57, a violation of the conditions of your parole are not a technicality. And it sure sucks that someone who did their time in prison and turned their life around would be berated for being a good citizen and reporting a crime.
ReplyDeleteNothing SD wrote was ground-breaking or timely. He just regurgitated what many, many others had stated much earlier which did not fail to mention what it would take to change the system.
If he were preparing a meal it would be described as used food. That which was previously consumed and then passed through the digestive track.
12:34: Why not? A small portion of the super wealthy run the country now.
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