Thursday, August 04, 2016

TKC TOLD YOU SO!!! EXCLUSIVE QUESTION: IS IT TIME FOR CHIEF FORTÉ TO RESIGN AFTER REMARKS ENRAGING RANK & FILE POLICE ACROSS KANSAS CITY METRO?!?



In a story that earned EPIC FREE SPEECH public discussion FIRST here on TKC, Kansas City Police Department Chief Forté is caught in a firestorm over his comments about so-called "unreasonable fear" of African-American males that he claims has precipitated recent deadly shootings by law enforcement.

Beyond the walled-garden of social media remember that the conversation started off with KCK complaints that the Chief's comments were making a bad situation worse. And then, later in the day the KCMO FOP added to the complaints with more criticism of the Chief and a defense of their collective bargaining rights that were allegedly derided by the top cop in a recent interview.

Later in the day, the KCPD Chief responded with a blog post explaining his position and doubling down on the discussion of controversial topics:

KCPD Chief Blog: I'm proud of our officers & will keep addressing difficult issues

Money line:

KCPD Chief: "I do respect others’ opinions, and I apologize if anyone was offended by my comments about police-involved shootings of black males. I said some of those incidents were the result of unreasonable fear and poor training on behalf of the police. I was in no way referencing any particular incident or any particular department. Over the last several years, we have seen many officer-involved shootings of black males throughout the country. These have created outrage, and to ignore these sentiments and give no thought to what police can do to improve the situation would be irresponsible."

The statement deserves to be read in its entirety.

Still, here's the question that is circulating but everyone, but our KICK-ASS TKC BLOG COMMUNITY, is afraid to ask:

GIVEN THE HISTORIC RATE OF KANSAS CITY RISING CRIME AND CHAOS IN MIDTOWN, QUESTIONS REGARDING OVERTIME PAY AND NOW RAGE FROM RANK & FILE POLICE ACROSS THE METRO . . . IS IT TIME FOR KCPD CHIEF TO STEP DOWN?!?!

Behind the scenes and under the anonymity provided by blogger.com . . . Many readers believe this is a relevant question. Among supporters of the KCPD honcho, the weakest argument in his defense is that KCMO has avoided social justice upheaval and rioting along the lines of Ferguson & Baltimore thanks solely to the efforts of the Chief . . . This idea was recently touted in the Wall Street Journal but the rhetorical exaction is weak, impossible to prove and demeans the efforts of just about everyone else in Kansas City.

OR . . . It's entirely possible, but unlikely, that the Chief's apology and explanation have quieted his critics.

Whatever the case . . .

THE TKC EXCLUSIVE THIS MORNING IS THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN A FEW INSIDERS SUGGESTING THE POSSIBILITY OF AN END TO CHIEF FORTÉ'S TENURE AMID THIS CURRENT CONTROVERSY!!!

What's interesting and something that most newsies are missing is that the KCMO FOP makes an important argument that Chief's controversial remarks aren't simply the result of one interview but reflect a line of thinking of the Chief's Administration and have been repeated throughout community meetings in recent weeks and amid tough times when domestic terrorists and criminals have increasingly targeted law enforcement.

Links FOLLOWING TKC . . .

KCTV5: KCKFOP President calls on Forté to retract statement

Newspaper: Police union officials criticize KCPD chief Forté over comments about police shootings of black men

KSHB: Forte responds to critics of policing comments

You decide . . .

54 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Tk, work backward on this one. The story from the Journal is the same kind of promotional hype that comes up about KC whenever critics are gaining too much traction.

It's a stunt and a distraction.

Yes, there are people who want the chief out but I think he's going to be able to survive this mess that was needless and created entirely by his statements.

Anonymous said...

Look at the next move coming down the line.

Mayor James and many more will be lining up for their support of the Chief.

I think if they work hard they can find the old white guy in the first post that claimed he is still a staunch supporter.

Teach KC said...

The Chief is doing an excellent job. His overtime is not a problem, that's just a lame KCTV5 story. Look at the last few KCPD leaders and they have been slow to respond and without much public support at all. Don't forget about the guy who assigned police cars to his girlfriend's house.

All things considered, despite some unfortunate wording. Chief Forte has been doing an EXCELLENT job.

Anonymous said...

The KCK police union President should focus his attention on what happens in Kansas city kansas. Like in any occupation there are always people who don't honor their oaths and dishonor their badges. Police Union presidents never ever call out the bad or mediocre cops. They insist all cops are great. That simply is not so. While most may be...Unions would have more credibility if they start speaking up about their members who commit crimes wearing the badge. The same thing applies to teacher unions need to speak out about weeding out the poor teachers in public classrooms. Unions exist to protect jobs.....they do not speak for the public good.

Anonymous said...

Blah, Blah, Blah...

Nothing will stop the inexorable movement of tax paying whites away from economy killing, violent blacks.

In major cities all over the US, blacks are given "room to destroy" as our long national nightmare Stockholm Syndrome continues while we all grovel at the feet of the very scum that kills us and kills our future. This won't change, because the demographics HAVE changed. The white Democrat traitors who have co opted the black vote in order to achieve power, money and sinecure, live in communities where there is no threat of violence, rape, murder and assault.

You, in the mean time, should keep an eye on your 6.

Work harder, make more money, so you can continue to support this insanity and hopefully have enough left over after taxes, to move somewhere safe.

By the way, your kids are fucked.

Westporter said...

I support the Chief, he is doing much better than the police in KCK. @6:34 is correct, they need to mind their own store. It seems that their comments are coming out of misplaced grief and that's understandable but when it starts to mess with our city, that is too far.

Bryan M. Stalder, Esq. said...

I support Chief Forté.

Anonymous said...

i support the chief too,in packing it up ,resigning , shutting it up annd moving on down the line

Anonymous said...

also that chickshit cop who made it his mission to kill that little dog needs to be fired and have his ass kicked in, shot in the foot and dog -bit ,all today.

Anonymous said...

The chief is probably right. Although most of these hoodrats deserve to be shot and save the taxpayers money from housing and feeding these parasites, the chief has been around long enough to observe how non-hoodrats are being handled as well. And like others who are being honest when they speak their mind, they are being punished because the truth hurts and other people can't handle the truth.

Anonymous said...

in a perfect world,that ugly,dumpy-ass Holland would be punched squarely in his foggot mouth , probibited from holding any public office ,ever again and run out of ks on a rail ,never allowed to return to the state,except for a mandatory ,yearly caning,from LEO spouses and loved ones

i treasure the right to freedom of speech,just not his..fucking IDIOT!!

Anonymous said...

This spade, should never have been appointed Chief. He has been unable to do the job since the first day.

Anonymous said...

I see a lot of racially biased police on this thread who need to turn in their badges.

Anonymous said...

I see the Kool-aid has been flowing freely. If you are not actually a member of either of these law enforcement organizations and aware of what is REALLY occurring on a daily basis then you have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. Officer Kirkpatrick's comments ring true with many, many of those men and women. The FOP response was appropriate as well. People need to understand one more thing...This is not a racial issue and those in positions of authority and responsibility should stop pandering to that. Instead start supporting the people you say you admire and care about rather than throwing them under the bus when it's to your advantage to do so. This doesn't require media interviews, press releases, or community meetings - it requires being open, honest, and consistent with your people...ALL of them and not just who you may pick to meet with.

Anonymous said...

He should resign but not because of his remarks. He is a narcissist and is divisive. No matter what, we can't have leaders with that perspective.

Just Julius said...

If it's the truth (which it is) what does it matter? I support the chief. Making something out of nothing

Anonymous said...

Back to the real world. First I seriously doubt that the Police Chief is going to resign over a bunch of hyped up balony on local blogs or in the Kansas Shitty press. Second some shit heel in the FOB doesn't run the police department. In fact I doubt you can find many citizens who can list where the FOP has done anything designed to support the tax payers. The FOB can stick out their chest and flap their pie holes, but in the end they are pretty much The Mouse That Roared.

It would be completely stupid for anyone on this town to think a black police chief (or mayor) isn't going to pander to blacks. Do you really think Forte was appointed because the was most qualified to run that department?

The only thing that is going to change the culture of that ineffective police department is to go outside to another city and find a professional leader and manager. As long as the city dudes can appoint some schmuck who will buckle under over local political BS nothing is going to change for the better in that department, nor will the concept of public service enter into the scheme of things.

RRAST said...

His comments are correct. Training and culture is the issues.We haven't lost an officer to a shooting since 1983.. The chief is continuing a solid trend within the department.

Changes are hard for some, but needed in the 21 century policing.

Anonymous said...

5 Devastating Facts About Black-on-Black Crime

by JEROME HUDSON
28 Nov 2015
14,302
The mainstream American media is, again, happily hitting the Black Lives Matter crack pipe in its pernicious pursuit of high ratings. These blood-lusting junkies were nowhere to be found when, with haunting predictability, Chicago news headline after headline detailed the carnage that has consumed dozens of communities in that city where black men kill each other with terrifying regularity.

Where were these Black Lives Matter protesters after the slaying of Chicago’s little Tyshawn Lee, the 9-year-old lured into an alley and shot to death by a black man seeking gang-related vengeance against his father?

Did little Tyshawn’s murder at the hands of a black gangster–an all too common occurrence in Chicago–not warrant wall-to-wall news coverage or Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson-style calls for “justice”?

No.

Why?

Because the ugly truth behind #BlackLivesMatter is that black people killing other black people does nothing to advance its political power in the same way that one white cop killing a black criminal can.

Despite the media’s overindulgence on white cops killing blacks, there is still a far-larger amount of black bodies being sent to morgues by black killers. Here’s five devastating facts, liberals can’t deny, that prove it.

FACT 1. Over 1,400 more black Americans murdered other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968.

According to FBI data, 4,906 black people murdered other blacks in 2010 and 2011. That is 1,460 more black Americans killed by other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 1968, according to the Tuskegee Institute.

FACT 2. Black People (mostly men) commit a grossly disproportionate amount of crime.

In 2012, white males were 38 percent of the population and committed 4,582 murders. That same year, black males were just 6.6 percent of the population but committed a staggering 5,531 murders.

In other words: black people–at just a fifth of the size–committed almost 1,000 more murders than their white counterparts.

The figures above highlight a horrific truth that black racialists and white liberals routinely ignore: Lawbreaking black Americans, young black males particularly, put themselves in close proximity to (mostly white male) police officers at rates sometimes five to 10 times higher than whites. This is a recipe for disaster. Thusly….

FACT 3. Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years.

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, black people committed 52% of homicides.

In 2013, black criminals committed 38% of the murders. Whites accounted for just 31 percent.

There are five times fewer black people than white people in America and, yet, they consistently carry out a larger share of the crimes? Given this rate, it’s no wonder that there aren’t more assistances where cops kill black criminals.

FACT 4. Chicago’s death toll is almost equal to that of both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, combined.

There have been almost as many deaths in one American city as there have been in the two major wars carried out by the U.S. military this century.

Chicago’s death toll from 2001–November, 26 2015 stands at 7,401. The combined total deaths during Operation Iraqi Freedom (2003-2015: 4,815) and Operation Enduring Freedom/Afghanistan (2001-2015: 3,506), total 8,321.

FACT 5. It would take cops 40 years to kill as many black men as have died at the hands of others black men in 2012 alone.

University of Toledo criminologist Dr. Richard R. Johnson examined the latest crime data from the FBI’s Supplementary Homicide Reports and Centers for Disease Control and found that an average of 4,472 black men were killed by other black men annually between Jan. 1, 2009, and Dec. 31, 2012.

Professor Johnson’s research further concluded that 112 black men died from both justified and unjustified police-involved killings annually during this same period.

Anonymous said...

Forte represents what's right with police departments. Being a cop is a difficult and dangerous job. It's easy to say cops are always right - no matter the circumstances. A good cop seeks the truth, and the truth is never so cut and dry. The FOP and others make the problem worse when they don't admit that some of the officer involved shootings we have seen would make any reasonable person question the motives of the officers.

Anonymous said...

More Kool-Aid please!

Anonymous said...

Just another KCPD Failure. No longer bother to keep count.

Anonymous said...

In a 100% Corrupt, Totalitarian, Rule-By-The-Few-For-The-Benefit-Of-The-Few-Only, Police-State Government, that permeates through the city, state, and federal levels, the policenare the frontline protectors, defenders, and enforcers of the realm. The chief of police, no matter who itnis, will be an ineffective mouthpiece on the side of the oppression, impoverishment, and murdering of citizens and humanity.Anybody holding the job of chief of police in such an environment will make no positive impact on the 'right things' being and getting done. Before the right things to be done, this state must be violently dealt with by violent revolution to it's eradication!

Anonymous said...

You also support Donald Trump, Stadler. And deny climate change.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Darryl.

Anonymous said...

Police unions do not speak for the public who pays their salaries. Unions speak for the protection of jobs and negotiating work conditions only. They do not exist to advocate for the welfare of the citizens or public.

Anonymous said...

Being an electrician and roofer is also a tough, dangerous job. Somehow they manage to do the work without eronious and nonsensical descriptors like hero.

Anonymous said...

This is why it is imperative for white people to move out of the big cities and take their tax dollars with them. How much lower will we have to resort to regressing to in order to appease the africans in America from killing each other or us, or doing whatever other negative thing they do against our civilized society part of this country?

We'll give our home bred domestic terrorists the sun, the stars, the moon, the sky, free food, free "suction ape" housing, free heat, electricity, cable, internet, Odumbo phones, health care, schooling, cawledge grants, cars, books, computers, clothes, oh, and free "skool supplies" by way of the media's "stuff da bus" push on working class sympathizers, and when all else fails to keep them from murdering each other or committing other heinous acts against the rest of our civilized society, I know what we'll do, give them FREE ice cream !! Yeah, this outta work, right? So what happens when winter comes around and the ice cream truck is parked for the season? Now they'll call the 4 seasons of the year "rayciss" and demand yet another "gibsmedat" because they bored caused it's cold outside. I say BIC should join in and give them all FREE LIGHTERS so they can burn their education materials, aka books, in hopes that they'll burn them and set their own "suction ape" niggernests on fire until they burn to the ground...

Ahhh, the good ole' welfare "hostage" system. Doing anything and everything in their power to appease niggers from doing what they do best. Nothing will distract them from resorting back to their primitive means. NOTHING I tell you! Nothing! Not even ice cream!

YT, it's time to move our of our major cities en mass !! Take your tax dollars with you that is being so frivolously wasted on the absolute worst sub species on the face of the Earth, the lowly worthless negro. There simply isn't enough resources in the world that could uplift these lowly beings. But nope, we'll keep on trying. Tripling down on everything to make them think they're just like us, just with a different skin tone. This country is turning into a bigger crock of shit with each and every day that arrives. Sarcasm included. Shit it is. The color proves it all !!

Anonymous said...

11:38 is a clueless leftist moron.

RRAST said...

Lol.. More white people in welfare than people of color. I grew up in rural America..I didn't see any black people in the social service line waiting for entitlements! Only white folks.

Read about issues don't Google it.

Anonymous said...

I could support Forte IF he stopped carrying the water for Urban Summit/Urban League.

Anonymous said...

Now lets a get real and do the percentages by ethnic category.....

I guarantee you that the same group that is responsible for most crime, who 80 percent of their offspring are bastards, who have the lowest school graduation rates, who have the highest rates of domestic abuse and will NEVER meld into a modern society has the highest percentage of its folks mooching for government handouts. When we start demanding performance we will get it. As long as some political party is rewarded for encouraging complete worthlessness, victimization and helplessness things will never change.

Unknown said...

That's why you are anonymous. You don't want the people to know who this fool is. ARE YOU AS STUPID AS YOU SOUND?

Richard Cushon said...

I sure hope you don't loose whatever job you have or you might have to find out how a hoodrat. Survives. You lucky fool.

Richard Cushon said...

I sure hope you don't loose whatever job you have or you might have to find out how a hoodrat. Survives. You lucky fool.

Anonymous said...

Farte can quit, scam taxpayers for his 6 figure pension..and then get a job as a BLM

"Activist"

Bryan M. Stalder, Esq. said...

Yawn. Yes, 11:38, that is correct. I am voting for Donald Trump and I am open to the *possibility* of climate change but I have seen too much scientific and historical evidence and statistics to determine definitively that cow farts and Greek yogurt whey are melting the polar ice caps or that a warmer planet is something that humans can't adapt to and/or benefit from.

Also, Chief Forté cares about his officers and their families but also expects them to respect civil rights and human life; an important key for police leadership in cities all over the US.

Bryan M. Stalder, Esq. said...

Yawn. Yes, 11:38, that is correct. I am voting for Donald Trump and I am open to the *possibility* of climate change but I have seen too much scientific and historical evidence and statistics to determine definitively that cow farts and Greek yogurt whey are melting the polar ice caps or that a warmer planet is something that humans can't adapt to and/or benefit from.

Also, Chief Forté cares about his officers and their families but also expects them to respect civil rights and human life; an important key for police leadership in cities all over the US.

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Anonymous said...

Why did you adopt a negro child? How can you be a Trump supporter and not recognize the importance of keeping negros in their place, not to mention their utter inferiority? Are you anxious for the wall to be built? Do you think we should build a wall around Tony or just have him deported? He's Mexican and therefore a drain on society...according to your hero.

Anonymous said...

Stalder a Trump supporter and a race traitor? You can't be both. I don't think I need to remind you how many times you've said we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

What a disgrace you are.

Bob said...

1:43, nice straw man. You set him up and knocked him right down again. Do you have any arguments that are not fallacies?

Anonymous said...

1:10 To a dumb ass African't facts and truth will always be stupid and there will always be some blogger burying the truth in favor of his own racist bias.

Anonymous said...

The extremes of both sides need to be checked here. First off, the Chief has the right to speak his mind, and rightly should be accountable for his statements. He obviously didn't think this thing through and has back-tracked. It's not cause to fire someone, and anyone who thinks the gutless Police Board would do anything is high. Many of his critics on here are being unfair to the guy - I just hope he learns and tries to improve. Chief, just look at your defenders on this board, most are cop-haters...is that who you want to align with? The blind DF supporters are out there too. First off, the FOP has every right to question him, do you prefer a Chief who has no oversight? KCK also has every right to speak out on this issue, it does affect them since this is a metropolitan area. RRAST, just for the record we haven't had anyone killed since 1983 because we are very lucky, not because we are better trained than everyone else. Your arrogance is amazing. We have had numerous officers wounded since that time and that has nothing to do with training. PS - hey 12:13, you are an idiot. When roofers just show up at the worst, most dilapidated houses, risk their lives to repair them for people they don't even know, and don't charge anything, then they will be heroes. Bite me.

Anonymous said...

1:42 Take your meds.

Anonymous said...

Most support the Chief even if his statements are sometimes nonsensical.

Anonymous said...

Cops need more training is bullshit.

Anonymous said...

The only job you can get after KCPD is some one trick pony side show like Chief of police in Warrensburg. Where you get to guard Old Drum.

Anonymous said...

Hear there's a police commissioner opening in NYC?

Anonymous said...

To all you cop haters...the thin blue line is getting thinner...when KC evolves into something out of the Purge or Mogadishu I don't want to here you complaining...to the rest of you that have "skills" armor up.

Just Julius said...

If it's the truth (which it is) what does it matter? I support the chief. Making something out of nothing

Anonymous said...

Say that!

Anonymous said...

4:53 Hows that mall cop gig working out?

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a Union Blue Wall of Silence.