TKC EXCLUSIVE MUST SEE!!! KANSAS CITY READY TO START DISCUSSION OF RED LIGHT CAMERA RESTART AS COUNCIL DUDE QUINTON LUCAS TWEETS QUESTIONS!!!
Behind the scenes consultants are already calling meetings with City Council members to get them on board a Kansas City red light camera restart that will be more intrusive than last time around with in-car spying driver pix as part of a legal solution.
Amid this hot mess on the way . . .
CHECK KANSAS CITY COUNCIL DUDE QUINTON LUCAS TWEETING DOUBLE QUESTIONS ASKING FOR SOCIAL MEDIA ADVICE ON RED LIGHT CAMERAS!!!
Take a look:
QuintonLucasKC: "On pro camera side is pub. safety arg; on anti side I see dislike of revenue prod off of citizen mistakes. What else?"
And then . . .
QuintonLucasKC: Anyone on have thoughts on red light cameras? Particularly, their potential reinstatement?
Credit to this council dude for taking to social media to ask questions rather than push propaganda . . . We've linked the threads so that TKC readers can reach out and let that Councilman know that our blog community has OPPOSED this unconstitutional measure since DAY ONE and we were ultimately VINDICATED about the illegal use of spy tech.
Moreover . . .
REMEMBER THAT SOME POLITICOS AND VOICES WITHIN THE KCPD TOUTED THIS TECH BEFORE IT WAS PROVEN ILLEGAL BY THE MISSOURI SUPREME COURT . . . THEIR MISTAKE AN UTILIZATION OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL TECHNOLOGY SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN OR OVERLOOKED!!!
TKC Real Talk: Nearly all Rank & File REAL police want to be out among the community talking, connecting with and protecting people and not sitting behind a computer screen collecting revenue generating data to be wasted by the Mayor . . . Notice support for this only among higher ranking KCPD denizens who may or may not some day earn consulting gigs after retirement.
Sadly, political consultants and corporate power brokers dictate so much of what happens in Kansas City and now it seems they look to take control of policing and start giving orders to law enforcement as well.
Developing . . .
Very much like the scenes from robo cop.
ReplyDeleteTKC, you should tell sly and the council that these cameras will ruin tourism. Some visitors would rather not risk it than get hit with a $100 moving violation fine.
If the rank and file KCPD wanted to be anything other than a revenue generator they should have worked for a different city with a real police department.
ReplyDeleteThere's nothing quite like "discussing" complicated nuanced issues in 140-character Twitter bursts to get some really thoughtful public policy results.
ReplyDeleteThis project has already been full of unintended consequences and cost a lot of money because it was so sloppily done the first time around.
Not a very auspicious start.
All you have to do is retain my driver Phil as your lawyer for $50K a year, and I will vote anyway you want on this. Fuck it. I want the money.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Twitter is the wrong platform to vet these types of issues. The con argument is much more broad than simply not liking them. Kansas City has gotten off track. Was hopeful, even though I am not a supporter, that Mr. Lucas would refrain from indulging these 'consultants'. To be quite frank, a consultant is not what is warranted - and it was consultants, along with lazy City Hall workers that got the issue thrown out as unconstitutional in the first place. Going back to the same failed consultants isn't very smart.
ReplyDeleteLOL 9/1/15, 7:45 AM
ReplyDeleteChicken dinner for you!
Let's see, right now the City's MO is to steal from anywhere it can to pay for toys that are much more fun to plan than basic city services...
ReplyDelete- Steal from PIAC, water bonds, and the taxpayers at the whim of 320 voters to pay for a streetcar that runs 2 miles
- Steal from wall street (securities issues with not releasing report), the zoological district, and the taxpayers who are coughing up half the money to pay for a new downtown hotel to serve a depressed convention industry, who's more turned off by our 20% tax rate than they will be turned on by a new hotel
Is there any doubt that the City will choose to reinstitute the red light cameras? That's a lot of potential revenue ripe for theft for the next fun toy.
I dislike them on Fourth Amendment grounds only. And no court decision will change my mind about how I feel.
ReplyDeleteOk, we are having a sale: For the next 3 hours, I will sell my vote for $47K (cash on the barrelhead). I have my eye on a piece of real estate and I need some working capital. Act Now!
ReplyDeleteSo nobody's doing anything effective about the fact that Kansas City is a murderous shithole full of violent and uncontrolled gangbangers. Instead, the city is coming up with more ways to make more money off motorists.
ReplyDeleteIt won't hurt tourism ... there really isn't any, other than a bunch of sports drunks a couple times a year.
It WILL convince people like me, suburban residents who spend money in Kansas City, to stay the hell out of this miserable and unwelcoming town.
Ooooooh the body shops gonna be busy fixing cars - FD ambulance gonna be making more runs - car & health insurance gonna have to rise - lawsuits & long term disability payouts gonna cost the gubmint.
ReplyDeleteNice red light runner revenues for KC . . . NASTY REAR END COLLISIONS for you and me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOOOhhhh, a Twitter discussion full of sloppy abbreviations and half-finished ideas!!!!
ReplyDeleteCan't you just imagine the intelligent back-and-forth think tank that will emerge from this!?
This generation is just inherently stuck on stupid.
There is NO "public safety" argument for these cameras. Intersection accidents -- by definition -- need TWO cars in the intersection to collide, so they seldom occur at the changing of the lights. It takes two to tango -- or collide. Intersection accidents occur when one driver simply fails to see an upcoming light at all (usually now because he/she is on a phone). These cameras do not address that.
ReplyDeleteThis is purely a revenue-driven exercise looking for a "public safety" justification -- no different from Ferguson or Mack's Creek.
Besides, if it is ONLY going to be a front photo, ONLY Missouri cars can be ID'd, since Kansas does not require a front license plate.
Brilliant, 10:27!!! Kansas wins again! Also, someone check me out on this, but since no actual KCPD cops are involved in issuing these tickets, that revenue goes into a different account. Higher profit for the City, without the Police Union and oversight from the state. Is that not true?
ReplyDelete10:18 AM Don't you dare talk bad about Quinton Lucas. Afterall, TKC marked him as the next Mayor O)_(O
ReplyDeleteBut he's like all the others, except he may be more well-spoken but there's no real difference. Same story, different day.
Quitnon Lucas is a dick which makes him perfectly qualified to replace the existing Mayor of Kansas City Missouri
ReplyDeletePlenty of studies prove sudden braking ocurrs frequently when green lights go to yellow, at red light camera intersections. Absent the cameras drivers often speed up to "beat" the red light if they are too near entering the intersection and stopping would be abrupt (even in good weather/fair road conditions).
ReplyDeleteRed light cameras are known to induce drivers to avoid the slight speed up through the yellow.
Fearing a citation for running the red, drivers make sudden stops, and rear-enders result.
Warning signs of the red light cameras have been shown to increase these types of collisions. When there's no signage drivers often don't notice the camera until seeing a flash (dusk to dark hours) or until getting a mailed citation (versions of cameras are smaller and go unnoticed by many).
Some cities require yellow lights stay "on" longer for safety. Longer yellows help to keep lead foots at the crossing angle streets from gunning into the red light runner.
City Hall doing this to try to "smooth out the markets"? What else are they doing that we do not know of just to "smooth out" other issues?
ReplyDeleteI hate the cameras. Why not put more of them up and catch people jay walking, throwing trash, texting, etc., etc.; all under the argument of protecting the public. It's a BS argument and adds more intrusiveness into our lives. No!
ReplyDeleteSounds like 11:08 knows about dicks. Nice. What about the balls? Know anything about them also?
ReplyDeleteHe is like Byron. They relish a good ol muddy helmet from time to time. It goes good with that butt munching they do on a regular basis with u know who.
ReplyDeleteOne thing you can count on. Everyone will sit one their fat asses and bitch and moan about red light cams as they watch them get reinstated.
ReplyDeleteFor me it is just another reason to take 435 around the city and do my errands in Johnson County. Seems to me KC is about to go down in history as a trap of pick pocket government.
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ReplyDeleteToni Bones was rushing to drop a maintenance fuck on TKC when she got stopped.
Look at the bright side of red light cameras.
2:19 that is not true. Toni Bones would not do that with that minger. She may be sleazy but she won't bang a minger.
ReplyDeleteGet your 'V' masks ready. They cant ticket you if they cant identify you.
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