MUST SEE!!! KANSAS CITY MAP REVEALS TOY TRAIN STREETCAR ROUTE COVERED IN CORPORATE WELFARE TAX BREAKS!!!
Today we get another reminder of that it's NOT excitement from the public that's fueling toy train streetcar hype but, in fact, cash incentives to big biz have driven the irrational exuberance over outdated technology.
To wit . . .
CHECK THIS KANSAS CITY TOY TRAIN CASH MAP REVEALING THE SHAMEFUL STREETCAR TAX BREAK ROUTE!!!
Another perspective . . .
THIS TAX BREAK POLICY REVEALS KANSAS CITY POLITICOS TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN HYPOCRITES WHEN THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE VERY SAME SAME LOW-TAX TACTICS USED BY KANSAS GOV. BROWNBACK!!!
Seriously, the eco-devo arguments are nearly identical but KC's boosterism comes by way of a "folly trolley" that's supposed to lure everybody with cars to a 2-mile fixed rail joy ride.
You decide whose plan is worse . . . Check it:
Click the map or this image for a bigger, better view.
Here's a bit of explanation of the data from the dudes @ Show-Me:
"As the map demonstrates, this area of downtown, and particularly the area around the proposed streetcar, has seen the ample use of these tax breaks. Although city leaders and news outlets claim the streetcar creates development, these tax abatements and a combination of other planning factors that favor this small section of downtown may be diverting development."
And once again this year we're confronted with HARD FACTS AND DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE that the toy train is really just a horrific scheme to route money to greedy lawyers and corporations while playing on the hopes and dreams of Kansas City voters who have been mostly cut out of the process or wisely reject this foolhardy idea.
Developing . . .
Better title: rich get richer?
ReplyDeleteThe streetcar will be successful if they can prevent violence on it. If not, it will be one of the most costly decision KC has ever made.
ReplyDeleteHERF DERF! HERF DERF!
ReplyDeleteZONE OF SPEECH FREE OR SUCH!
NEBRASKANERS GO HOME!
Did you clear this post with Mensa boy? I thought he was the brain trust behind this one?
ReplyDeleteCherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position.
ReplyDeleteCherry picking can refer to the selection of data or data sets so a study or survey will give desired, predictable results which may be misleading or even completely contrary to actuality.
So yeah, let's see the rest of the map. Let's see Zona Rosa. Let's see The Plaza. Let's see Bannister Mall area.
Then we can fairly determine if this is correct or merely another STREETCAR HATE BONER, like the last six hundred STREETCAR HATE BONERS.
(We see right through your bullshit)
^^^^^^^^^^
ReplyDeleteKC streetcar line rejected by voters by more than 10 points. Sorry, it seems like more people agree it's the streetcar that is full of it.
Prior to 2014, tax abatements were never granted downtown. Only after the streetcar was started did these tax abatements start appearing. Clearly this is a conspiracy the FBI will investigate.
ReplyDeleteThe only tax breaks that should be allowed in Missouri are those that go to Show-Me's funder....Rex Sinquefield.
ReplyDeleteWhat the feds need to investigate is the relationship that Sly has with all of these lawyers who are getting the TIF work, that is the real corruption in KCMO. You almost have to give into Sly to practice as an attorney in KC.
ReplyDeleteSo, is the train still free?
ReplyDeleteFuck yea, and if you mention it again you'll get your doors kicked in by a swat
ReplyDeletelooks like STREETCAR HATE BONER #601 to me
ReplyDeleteRuss Johnson for Mayor.
ReplyDeletePretty sweet how there's no tax breaks or tif or starbonds fr anything in joco or the northland or leea summit!
ReplyDeleteIt's where everybody wants to be so there absolutely no tax giveaways or corporate welfare because it's not stinky ckorruptck murder black people slavery!
Please believe me! Pay Touhey gave me a JPEG map to post!!!!!
It's a fuckin loser.
ReplyDeletePeriod.
A ton of money for fuckin bullshit.
Hey, Sly pays me so I do what he says.
ReplyDelete20 comments each confirming each other's point of view.
ReplyDeleteTonys KC, the last free speech zone.
People vote for shit and the citt hall bosses at fuck off stick your vote up your asses
ReplyDeleteI HAVE HARD FACTS AND DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE, to wit:
ReplyDelete"As the map demonstrates, this area of downtown, and particularly the area around the proposed streetcar, has seen the ample use of these tax breaks, especially along streets with six letters or less. Note the conspicuous absence of development along Wyandotte and Baltimore, and how streets like Main, Grand and Oak are favored. Although city leaders and news outlets claim short streetnames create development, these tax abatements and a combination of other planning factors - including numbered streets - that favor this small section of downtown may be diverting development."
Therefore the streetcar has nothing to do with it. It's all about street names. Business favor short street names to save time in addressing return mail, etc.
Besides, if a project is granted TIF status at a particular location within the jurisdiction, and a
different project would have been undertaken on the same site without TIF, then part of the TIF set aside may be truly incremental. In addition, it is often argued that by
promoting economic development, TIF results in positive spillover economic benefits. Or to express it another way:
Define:
IMPTIF = the value of improvements from the project which is granted TIF status;
IMPNTIF = the value of improvements from the non-TIF alternative (net of govt.
spending);
XTIF = the change in property value of non-TIF sites due to the TIF project;
XNTIF = the change in property value of non-TIF sites due to the non-TIF
alternative;
RiP = the property tax levy for governmental unit i;
IiP = the property tax increment for governmental unit i,
SiP = the set aside from property taxes for governmental unit i;
Then the true site specific property tax increment for governmental unit i is:
IiP = RiP(IMPTIF - IMPNTIF) + RiP(XTIF - XNTIF),
while the site specific set aside from property taxes for governmental unit i is:
SiP = RiP(IMPTIF)
It follows that:
I R IMP IMP R X X iP iP
i i
TIF NTIF iP TIF NTIF
i
∑ = −+ − ∑ ( )( ) ∑ , and
S R IMP iP iP TIF
i i
∑ = ∑ ( )
OK?
All of this debate is just fine, but where are the jobs? If the streetcar can produce more jobs for people besides consultants, then I support it. If not then it was all just a waste. Show me the jobs and that will the debate. So far none of you have anything but your opinions
ReplyDeleteIt's jobs that really matter.
The streetcar will never be anything more than an amusement park-type ride for tourists.
ReplyDeleteThat's the sad truth. And the sadder truth is the highly questionable vote that allowed 300 or so people to put the entire city on the hook for this Disneyland meets KC.
The only benefit the streetcar is bringing to the table is the new water and sewer lines. The negatives are many and expensive.
Sly's legacy is all talk.
ReplyDeleteThere needs to be an audit in which the auditor will conclude that the supposed public-private partnership imposes all risks on the public and no responsibility on the private partner. What else should we expect when the CK Toy Train is less a business and more of a revolving door for politicians and city bureaucrats?
ReplyDeleteThe elected officials who promoted this boondoggle–people like Sly and Russ like to think of themselves as venture capitalists providing funds to new industries that will eventually be highly profitable. The problem is that local government can’t pick winners because it doesn’t know the future any better than anyone else. While venture capitalists risk their own money on what they hope will be the Next Big Thing, Sly and Russ want to risk your money. And rather than search for the Next Big Thing, they risk it on something that was a big thing 120 years ago but was already on its way out 90 years ago.
ReplyDeleteThe future is like the past only more of it
ReplyDeleteLets put a ferris wheel at the end of the toy train ride. It would be a "destination" and it would fit right in with the carnival atmosphere that a toy train of drunks and thugs will create. We can't run a bus line with out having stabing and shooting on the line. The toy train will just let it happen faster and more often. Will you please spend a million dollars to put guards on the toy train so we will be safe.
ReplyDeleteBlood can be cleaned up and the window's replaced. I hear the "rape cab" is the next thing in surge pricing.
ReplyDeleteAnthony Bruno was murdered a block away after he left a cab.
ReplyDeleteto 6:18pm.
ReplyDeleteyou should be more upset at the thousands of people that didn't bother to vote. less than 1000 people voted and there's easily 8-10000 residents inside the TDD that can.
stop bullying the people that chose to vote
to 9:15. like London? they do quite well with their modern ferris wheel.
ReplyDeleteoh, and public drinking is already illegal. good luck with that.
and what shootings and stabbings? there's been a handful per million trips. (even 50 routes taking just 10 round trips 200 times per year is 100,000 trips)
and how will it happen more often? there's way more bus routes and they go into the more dangerous parts of town compared to the streetcar