Tuesday, March 25, 2014

Kansas City Toy Train Streetcar Stalled



More links and perspectives on that Kansas City Toy Train Streetcar now off track . . .

Pitch: Streetcar extension stalls over money, not Brookside NIMBYs

Newspaper: Proposed taxing district shrinks for streetcar extensions

"Yael And His Crybaby Routine: Give it up to the NIMBY crowd: The anti-streetcar Brooksiders won the first round."

Streetcar consultants: Cut Brookside, Waldo out of expansion plans

Developing . . . But hopefully not . . .

31 Comments:

Hyperblogal said...

My heartiest congratulations to the Brooksiders who are much more in tune with principles of democracy that City Hall and folly trolley proponents.

Anonymous said...

*doesn't understand what "democracy" means

Anonymous said...

Read the FUCKING ARTICLES before you comment on them, dolts.

The Pitch article expalins the decision. It had VERY LITTLE to do with the loud, but numerical MINORITY who were "up in arms" in Brookside, including many people who do not in fact "live in Brookside"...

It wasn't a very high priority route. The streetcar would have passed in Brookside, but wouldn't have been worth the diminishing returns the further south you get, especially given the outsiders and minority opinion opponents.

Channing Truthchurch, concerned reader said...

That Linwood and Prospect route, now THAT'S high priority right there. Got to get those vital human resources moving at 25 mph around the city, lolz.

Anonymous said...

The bills are coming due.
The revenue target areas are resisting and then shrinking.
Arithmetic is beginning to be recognized as a reality.
The promises and assertions are becoming more desperate.
The fact that even the initial Main Street route can't be built, operated, and maintained without more revenue than generated by the original TDD is becoming more public.
The folks behind the curtain are being exposed.
But way too late to save the taxpayers from having to pay bonds of $10-15 million for as far as the eye can see.
So what's the next bright shiny new thing the crowd at 12th and Oak will be going ga ga over?

Anonymous said...

Love how streetcar nuts are now spinning this as "brookside was never a viable route." We, the majority of brookside, who do not support the ruining of our peaceful neighborhood by ruining our greenspaces with lightrail, scared the pants off of city hall. This is why they cut us out of the voting TDD. Since the new boundary goes all the way to 435 even though the trains are proposed to stop at Prospect, we know for a fact that that was the reason we were cut out of the TDD. Screw you Toy Train supporters.

Anonymous said...

Sly is wrong on the airport, Sly is wrong on the toy train, Sly is wrong for CK.

Anonymous said...

Jan Marcason on why streetcar didn't go to Brookside: "Bottom line was at this point, it didn't make a lot of economic sense."

Hilarious, should KC give chase to retreating streetcar supporters or just let them lie and spin themselves into oblivion?

Anonymous said...

3:23 does not speak for Brookside.

(except on anony interblogs that trolls read)

Anonymous said...

They ruined our greenspace with threats of potential asking us about using it for its intention!!!!!!!!!!

25 ppl (including hyperbolic harpy from Parkville and manchild from Indian Mound) = majority of BKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I say it it is true, even though over 50% of BKS voters have voted for EVER LIGHT RAIL PROPOSAL IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY and they poll at over 50% in favor of streetcars on the fucking TROLLEY trail...

But trust me, I'm a white 25 year old male who hasn't travelled much, lives at 86th and N. Oak and I have the internet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I guess the streetcar won't be stopping to shoplift at Wagreens

Anonymous said...

Maybe the Brookside Anti-Everythingers should have concerned themselves with the fact that Brookside JUST GOT SOLD to a big out of town developer instead of worrying about the fact that a majority of their neighbors do not agree with their knee-jerk reaction to having decent transit in the neighborhood...

Anonymous said...

This is one project that I wouldn't mind "missing out" on. Wont miss the noise, eyesore of a train track, traffic jams when the blasted thing whistles by, and the inevitable crime that will accompany a "free" ride around the "rich people's" neighborhood. Include me out.

Anonymous said...

Actually Brookside kicking Sly, Johnson and Johnson's toy train out of their neighborhoods is a pretty magnificent achievement when you really think about it.

If only the rest of the City got their butts in gear we might be able prevent this city from going bankrupt.

Anonymous said...

5:29

Hey CK slug, you're smarter than everyone else in the room right? Tell us ignorant, anti-progress, CAVE men why it's such a great idea to cut that "over 50% of BKS voters have voted for EVER LIGHT RAIL PROPOSAL IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY" out of your voting base for the upcoming triple-tax election.

You'd better go canvas for some votes down at 51st and Prospect this weekend.

Anonymous said...


A victory of sorts for Brookside/Waldo, but the issue is still there....why a streetcar when the city can't pay it's bills? I want, I want, I want.
When will the city leaders learn that the citizens want our sewers/water pipes replaced (thanks to EPA for the mandate), we want accredited schools...too much to ask? We NEED to "semma down, NOW", and say no to all these schemes for a streetcar, anywhere. When was the last time you said, "Boy, would I like a streetcar." Right.
RIDE THE BUS. Improve the bus, so riders WANT TO RIDE THE BUS.
Does anyone at City Hall read?

Anonymous said...

5:29: Are you spewing hyperbolic hysterical frothy mouthed lunacy again?

You might want to correct your oft-used cut and paste to reflect that you mean "every light rail proposal." "Ever" doesn't make much sense in that context. English is a tough language, but most people get the hang of it after a couple of generations in this country.

A streetcar to N. 86th & Oak might make sense. At least more sense than one to Brookside, which already has several bus lines, but you wouldn't know anything about the bus, would you?

Anonymous said...



eeeeew 2:23. You are one ticked off dude. Better medicate. It is bad for your health. From the looks of you, exercise would be a help.

Anonymous said...


6:22 Touche! Well done!!

Anonymous said...

Tell Prairie Village they are next on the map see how they react. Should be amusing.

Anonymous said...

Streetcar is fine for bored tourists downtown, but it serves no purpose for anyone else. 25 mph? I'll take a bike any day.

Anonymous said...

"Streetcar to 86th and N. Oak might make sense"

bwaaaaaahahahahahahhahahahhaa.


Awesome amateur urban planning, bro. Angsty and edgy!

Anonymous said...

I can see you cause I said so on the anony internets!!!!!!

Be scared, bro. I know who you are...

Anonymous said...

"Mommy, people who don't agree with me found were I post all of my angsty rants against streetcars and shit, now they are disagreeing with me even though I called them hipsters and said they don't live anywhere and said they were paid consultants and now they are still disagreeing with me even though I told them everybody think the things I think, just like you told me, I'm special. Mommy, make them stop, or go somewhere else. Or I'm going to throw another tantrum!"

Anonymous said...

This blog's comment section is horrendous. Maybe the worst whining, trolling, nonsense I've ever seen. Its gotten so bad city hall and the news outlets don't even read it anymore (or much of the blog either). The streetcar trolling is the worst. Just lies, hyperbole, name calling and trolling. Pitiful, unreadable, uninformed and putrid.

Anonymous said...

Anybody that stays in KCMO and Jackson County deserves all the taxes they get rammed up the ass.
Slyster James is a crooked Mayor.

Anonymous said...

Of course I have seen NO comments on the taxing idea to take from the East side and give to the West side.
First you take our PIAC money and now you want Aldi's to charge more sales tax to those of us who worked hard to get a grocery store that charges cheaper prices.
Typical white boy

Anonymous said...

The only support for the TDD is the Prospect Max line which has been promised for SEVEN YEARS.

P Bear said...

Since when did Americans value the opinion of a "dune coon", Yael Abra-ca-dabra. Ca-dabra would be better served playing in the sand barge in the Missouri River. At least he would be "qualified" to do that.

Anonymous said...

Why do I keep seeing comments about "Sue em Susie from Parkville." You should know she lives in Morningside. Has for decades.

Anonymous said...

7:35: Is that you, Yael?