TKC EXCLUSIVE!!! MUST READ!!! NORTHLAND PERSPECTIVE ON LEAVING KANSAS CITY THANKS TO HORRIBLE SNOW REMOVAL!!!
Right now we're getting a brief respite in the weather . . . But we're just starting winter and already this is nothing less than the season of discontent in Kansas City.
To wit . . .
CHECK THIS TKC EXCLUSIVE INSIDER TESTIMONY REGARDING SNOW REMOVAL (OR LACK THEREOF) ON THE RIGHT SIDE THE BRIDGE!!!
It's fun and educational and something the Mayor's people don't want anybody to see . . . Which makes it a perfect way to start this morning . . .
Take a peek:
If this week's baby snow is any indication, it's time to move to the burbs. It snowed 4-5" Saturday night. Early Sunday morning I was driving through Gladstone on a major artery. It was a plowed, wet street. I come over a hill and cross into KCMO and hit unplowed, snow-covered streets until I got to a state highway. Once I got off the highway it was unplowed snow all the way home. That was Sunday morning. The first plow arrived in the neighborhood today, 4 days late, and accomplished nothing other than piling ice blocks in front of everyone's driveways and blocking access to the mailboxes. The trash trucks had no problem on Monday but the recycling trucks never showed. They got about half the neighborhood on Tuesday and then never came back.
You want to attract people to KC? Stop taxing them 1% extra for services that, if performed at a similar level in the surrounding suburbs, would get people fired.
PS - I know the city doesn't like cul-de-sacs. That's because they don't understand that cul-de-sac is French for "pays-most of the-taxes."
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Developing . . .
That's a new trend that's horrible.
ReplyDeletePeople aren't just leaving KCMo. They're encouraging their employers to do so as well.
We live in Waldo and we feel for the Northland. No trucks came through the residential areas of Waldo. Yes, we had less snow, but that means we had ice accumulation for a longer period of time. The city did not put down ice-melt products on residential streets before or after the storm in Waldo. Any city employee who tells a council member that the residential streets were treated in Waldo is a liar. It did not happen, and if a Councilmember repeats that lie then they are dishonest too -- or just plain stupid.
ReplyDeleteThe city should have never approved development plans that include "cul-de-sacs" but since they did the city needs to pull on their big girl panties and clear the cul-de-sacs. Then they need to quit approving the damn things and go back to the grid system.
ReplyDeleteSnow removal costs alot of money. In a City where "public servants" continue to loot the residents by insisting on maintaining their outlandish sized pensions, something has to give. Repair the roads? Fix the water pipes? Remove the snow and ice from the ground and make the streets safe? Pay the pensions? Apparently the freely elected political class has been able to preserve only one of the categories above. Guess which one?
ReplyDeleteCity services are a joke. That's why city employees are forced to live in the city. Otherwise, the tax base would really hollow out.
ReplyDeleteIn almost any other major City, snow temoval is a make or break issue for the Mayor and council people. Not in Kansas City :( The people expect nothing and the people get nothing. The only instance of prompt and effective snow temoval was when the putrud Flunkhouser was running for reelection. That year the snw came off the ground as if the Funk himsef went around the City with a shovel. Not that it helped him, the only Mayor in the past 100 years not to be reelected. We don't want the Funk!
ReplyDeleteQuit comparing KCMO to Gladstone - they only have about 3 miles to plow - they should be dry! I live in the northland and didn't get plowed, but I'm not whining, grow a pair!
ReplyDeleteOP and all the KS burbs can handle the same weather over a large area and but City officials in KCMO say that it is impossible.
ReplyDeleteFucking morons in KCMO City Hall!
I need a TIF.
ReplyDeletebuy a four wheel drive vehicle and dont depend on government to plow streets
ReplyDeleteIs that last last comment the best the 29th floor can come up with
ReplyDeleteSomeone please look up how much money the City gives to Glass and Hunt for the sports teams and how much it spends on snow removal on an annual basis.
ReplyDeleteYou can do the same thing with TIFs or soccer parks or other forms of corporate welfare.
The city can't even clean City Hall steps & sidewalks of snow & ice! Jackson County can--why not the city??
ReplyDeleteFour wheel drive vehicles do nothing for you on ice or packed snow, but morons like 7:51 and Derrick Thomas do not under stand that and people end up dead because of their stupidity.
ReplyDeleteSo if we take the P&L subsidy, the "unexpected" streetcar expenses and the 20 million extra for the cop shop, can we buy a shovel?
ReplyDeleteim in waldo also and never saw a plow putting salt or sand down on side streets. this city has gone to hell in a hand bag until they get some council and new mayor who really cares about the city and citizens. instead of putting the city in debt further by playing with the toy tram and fixing the water and sewer problems instead of raising rates and taxes the money they spent on the tram would have help defray the cost of replacing the sewer and water lines.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the complaint about cul-de-sacs? The truck comes in one side, circles around and comes out the other side faster than a dead end street. If KCMO needs lessons, they can come to Overland Park.
ReplyDeleteWhenever this issue comes up, it's comical to hear someone talk about how much territory KCMO covers, as though God made it that big.
ReplyDeleteAll of the growth was caused by ANNEXATION in order to get more tax money flowing into 12th and Oak. And when you take on more territory, you have the responsiblity to provide city services to all those new residents.
In KCMO, residents come LAST in the way money is spent, and it's been that way for decades. And it's not going to change.
A city that works.
Just not for you.
im not on 29th fl. just a conservative that doesnt depend on government for ANYTHING! Actually my better advice would be to move out of the city. forget all the rules and regulations and taxes of the city! move to the country!
ReplyDeleteI grew up on a cul-de-sac in an east coast state. A combination of full sized plows and smaller pickups cleared the road every 4-6 hours. If a township about the size of the southern half of KCMO can get it done then what the fudge KC?
ReplyDeleteWhat do you expect when you hire an incompetent city manager who hires an incompetent public works director. It is really sad that they pat themselves on the back thinking they are doing a good job. Wake up city council.
ReplyDeleteI'm in Waldo, too, and I'm not usually a complainer, but the city did not even send a plow down our street to do the one swipe we usually get. I went to JOCO on the Monday after the snow, and their side streets were just as clear as KC's main streets. I like my neighborhood, but I might be able to like JOCO, too.
ReplyDeletefucking cry babies
ReplyDeletederrick thomas was a moron who had 9 kids by 9 different women and was driving too fast on the interstate when the weather was bad. moron relatives even tried suing general motors!
ReplyDeleteStop it with the op comparisons Do you know why the residential streets are cleared? It is mostly because they pay into a homes association and they handle it. You to can do this team up with your neighbors and PU in money and quit you bitching.
ReplyDeleteThat's not true. All public streets are plowed by the city.
DeleteAnd it was 6 with 5 moron
ReplyDelete8:08. Really? People pay taxes with expectations. If KCMO wants to grow up and be a big city then they need to get their head out of their arses. Nobody gives a shit about the big projects city hall keeps pushing when basic services continue to be sub par.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you expect when $12 million goes to pay for the P&L District every year. Now Waldo you were against a Wal-Mart that would have been paying property taxes and have employees that would have been paying earnings tax to pay for city services.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the same thing. They have a CID in Waldo too I believe the Walmart neighborhood market would have participated in. Those are some whiny arses living in Waldo.
DeleteI live in the 49/63 neighborhood. I think Rockhill, Troost, 63rd and 59th got plowed. None of the streets in the other parts of the neighborhood were touched.
ReplyDeleteAdios Sly!
ReplyDeleteThe choice is well-functioning, properly run suburbs or the dysfunctional, poorly managed slum that KCMO has become. I recently moved here, intending to live in KCMO because I'm a city kind of guy. A little research convinced me to buy in an affordable part of Johnson County instead. Best thing I ever did. By the way: streets in my not too affluent town were treated or plowed within a few hours of the big snow. And I never hear gunshots.
ReplyDeleteAll the $ is going to streetcar. Abandon the suburbs for the River Market.
ReplyDeleteThis is by design.
Russ Johnson lives up north. No wonder they didn't plow it.
ReplyDeleteMajor cities, even in the snow belt, don't plow sidestreets, you crying hillbillies.
ReplyDeleteThis blog is like a cartoon of suburbanite whining.
White people cry face.
ReplyDeleteJesus Christ pussies, it didn't even snow much.
ReplyDeleteCul-de-sacs don't pay most of the taxes. HAte to bust your snot bubble of simultaneous self-pity and self aggrandizement, but neither does the Northland. The Northland, and the upkeep on its unsustainable culdesacs, is subsidized by the taxes paid in the River-Brookside core.
ReplyDeleteThe population densities couled with the modest incomes in the Northland would require a tax rate of nearly double to pay for itself if the core wasn't letting you suck the teat.
Born and raised in KC. I always thought it was the best city ever. I have also watched it go down the toilet. There is no hope for KC in my lifetime. Moving out of the city and counties that have anything to do with KC. Two more weeks! I feel sorry for the rest of you.
ReplyDelete8:22 is that you Sly? I live in a smaller town outside the metro area and our streets was cleared during the snow fall and every street was all cleared after wards and we have cheaper taxes that you assholes in KCMO have. We also don't have a earnings tax either. Least two if not three patrol cars at all times and when you call for an officer to make a complaint it's maybe 20 minute max wait. We have a new fire station full of very modern new equipment switched out about every 5 years. In an emergency depending where you are response time can be as quick as 3 minutes to having a unit at your front door. We have all new schools a kick ass sports field for our high school students and are accredited as well. The town government has it's meetings in the evenings so the towns people can attend and voice there opinions. Our water lines work and our sewers carry the crap away. Our streets are clean and yes no gun fire made in hate. Do hear an occasional hunter firing outside the city limits at something. Pick up trucks have guns in the back window and the local cops don't crap their pants thinking a terrorist is in town. So if we only have 9 sq miles of city and just 6000 residents and have all this why can't KCMO have the same? Sounds to me like you residents need to raise a little hell it sounds like.
ReplyDeletePeople, the politics and methods of KCMO/city hall are like junk food. I have heard way too many horror stories of the school board, business permitting processes, dealing with crime, the way they sneak special interest votes, taxes, etc.
ReplyDeleteI mean, good grief its so dysfunctional. I could never live within the city limits and feel comfortable about making a new long term home there.
If you move to KCMO you can expect your taxes to go up in many possible ways too. Then again when you have Democrats at the helm of big cities they just erode and crumble, and then they whip the backs of the tax payers to cover for their mistakes.
They did salt Main Street in Waldo before the storm. I saw it with my own eyes!
ReplyDeleteMoved to KCMO in ’06. Two cars (front-WD) later the only time I’ve ever had trouble driving around was well … never. Screwed myself once by parking on a sheet of ice in a private lot which required a push but that was it. Snow covered streets are about the only time I turn off the traction control because unless you’re on a completely level surface it’s counter-productive to someone who knows how to drive in those conditions and I actually enjoy it. That doesn’t change the fact that better than 50% of drivers (anywhere) have no idea how to actually drive. Gas pedal to go. Brake pedal to stop. An occasional turn signal at their discretion. Throw rain, ice, snow (or anything) into that mix and people lose their minds. The fact is, whether you want to face it or not, KCMO does a haphazard if not down-right lazy job with snow removal. Most cities do a job more comparable to JOCO then KCMO so stop being downright ignorant. The 3 inches or so midtown/south KC got wasn't an issue for some to get around in but those who can’t end up creating problems for everyone. Unless you want to make every licensed driver attend a winter driving training course, the easiest solution to me would be city hall doing its damn job.
ReplyDeleteI be a moron wif a blade forr my pickm up truck and Sexy Sindy Circo give me money to pretend I clear streets for KCMO. I light up a dube and drive around the area wif my giflfrind givn me head under the dash. then we get drunk. money comes in good.
ReplyDeleteI complained the day after the snow/ice in KCMO. The salt truck came **yesterday** and said the road was acceptable so they didn't put any salt down. Damn straight. Four days later and 40-degree temps finally melted the ice.
ReplyDeleteIt won't be long before the KCMO city hall tells us to wait for the Spring thaw and them pat themselves on the back for the forward thinking...
All KCMO residents can submit online city service complaints here: http://webfusion.kcmo.org/coldfusionapps/ActionCenterRequest/RequestForm.cfm
ReplyDeletePlease tell the city how poor a job they do with street maintenance. Document the complaints at this 311 Action Center website.
I live downtown and they were out near my place plowing all night. The streets in my area were clear in the morning. Having lived in a place like Smithville, where snow removal is virtually non-existent, this was a welcome change!
ReplyDeleteGet a Homes association and pool you money and quit crying. I believe this was said before, but no one on here wants a solution just to whine about their little street. get with your neighbors and hire a service this is what OP does.
ReplyDeleteWhy? That's what taxes are for. Give me my 1% back. That's not what OP does.
DeleteQuit voting foe the earnings tax.
ReplyDeleteP&L District $12 million, $2 million for stadiums. Do I needd to say more.
ReplyDelete10:48 AM
ReplyDeleteThose service companies make very large payments in the form of campaign contributions and secret payoffs to KCMO city officials to make certain that there will never be acceptable snow removal in this town by city crews. Mostly payoffs.
Fire several assistant city managers. That would free $160,000 per.
ReplyDeleteCindy Circo could not support her lifestyle without accepting payoffs.
ReplyDeleteIt seems the city always does something to demonstrate how little we get for our property taxes just as they come due.
ReplyDeleteThe worst part is them finally showing up 4 days later to do nothing but push chunks of snow and ice between the street and the driveway. Cars were parking in the streets while drivers went in and grabbed a shovel to clear a path to the house again. If you're not going to come plow on day one, forget it.
ReplyDeleteTony, why doesn't your tipster bother to name the street he was driving on? Couldn't possibly be because his whole story is BS, could it?
ReplyDeleteAnd you want to tell us it was still snow and ice packed "four days" later? With the temperatures above freezing we've had?
And dear dumbasses who want salt and sand on your residential streets every time it snows . . . Yep, love your cars, don't you? Got a fondness for rust?
My residential street (Michigan), midtown KC) was plowed and driveable by the time I got at 7 a.m. Sunday, and the neareest "snow route" arterial (59th) was cleared curb to curb and down to the pavement.
Now I know that's not good enough for the self-entitled whiners here who wet their pants at the sight of the first snowflake, then bitch about the taxes in the same breath, while demanding more, more, more for themselves.
And gee, the recycling truck didn't make it when you expected it! Oh, how do you survive under such primitive conditions!
"The first plow arrived in the neighborhood today, 4 days late, and accomplished nothing other than piling ice blocks in front of everyone's driveways and blocking access to the mailboxes."
ReplyDeleteExactly where do you live? Fairbanks? Because in Kansas City, it all had pretty much melted off "4 days late".
Ice blocks blocking driveways and mailboxes? Yeah, right.
So let's see, you whined and moaned because they didn't plow, then you moaned and whined because they did plow.
ReplyDelete1. Adding Walmart to Waldo will do NOTHING for tax revenues and plowing streets. This is KCMO after all...
ReplyDelete2. I live in Waldo. There was not one single snow truck pass by the City or contractor on the side streets. Side streets were complete ice for 3 days. If not for a 4x4 I would not been able to leave my house, go to work, or travel for the family Christmas.
KCMO is an absolute fucking mess. The schools are the worst in the nation. The water and sewer situation is deplorable. The street maintenance tax monies are siphoned off for TIFs, toy trains, Mayoral office budget expense increases, $15k gift and freebies for events that never happen, etc.
I cannot wait to move from KCMO back to JOCO ... and I hate those golden ghetto cafeteria Christian pricks a lot so that's saying something.
Having lived in Fairbanks, I can tell you that the roads are clear in the winter.
ReplyDeleteExactly Byron, most cities clear their streets of snow. Except CK
ReplyDeleteYou couldn't seen that Byron you're blind remember.
ReplyDeleteIt's been 40 degrees for the past couple of days. Why dump a bunch of salt on the road when the ground is still warm?
ReplyDeleteMs. 1:17 PM
ReplyDeleteThis was in the '70's. Jesus, you're fucking stupid.
Try living in NE Independence! No plow, no salt, no sand ever. Had to have a nieghbor with 4X4 take me to grocery and Rx.
ReplyDelete12:05: Well, bully for you. I'm happy your area got some attention, but please recognize that many areas did not. It seems Waldo, not all that far from you, really, was the orphan neighborhood this time. And yes, the streets did melt somewhat yesterday, but they froze over last night. They will probably melt some more today and tomorrow. This reminds me of the Barnes' administration that relied on global warming to do the street clearing.
ReplyDeleteI listen to the Neo Nazi's speak at the courthouse in Novemver and there would be enough prisoners u to shovel the roads clear from here to Odessa. Why all the bitching in the Northland. They make Johnson County blush when it comes to Nazis!
ReplyDeleteNo Byron once again you showed your stupidity. You never said when so one was left to wonder. Look Byron you're not of the class of people who live in KC so I think it would be best if you just stayed with your kind. I promise you nobody from here will follow you.
ReplyDelete3:06 PM
ReplyDeleteBryon makes more sense than you do.
I have said it before and I will say it again: We elected the wrong Funkhouser.
You sure are full of yourself, missie.
ReplyDeleteMost cities don't clear sidestreets. You guys are crybabies.
ReplyDeleteAnd taxes in KCMO are cheaper than JoCo even with the earnings tax.
I wouldn't live in the suburbs of this town if I got to tax them.
Right on. I have never lived anywhere with worse suburban crybabies than here. The only thing uniquely disfunctional about KC is the crybaby Northlanders and JoCoers who've never been anywhere outside their beige strip mall "neighborhood".
ReplyDeleteIf any of you sorry backwards ass fraidy cat white people ever travelled, you'd realize how good you've got it here and just how excellent city services are for a town this size.
You motherfuckers need to get out more.
Best comment of the thread hands down.
DeleteBottom line, snow removal sucks in KCMO because of the city manager and public works director.
ReplyDeleteJust what I thought. The same bunch of whiny Waldo assholes who are too dumb to know that their homeowners association/CID are responsible for snow removal.
ReplyDeleteYou opted out. Now you blame the city because my Kansas City street is clear?
Here's another clue. If you're too damned dumb to make it through four inches of snow, I'm damned glad you got stuck in your driveway.
Nobody said anything about getting stuck in a driveway. I'm a bit more concerned about walking on ice-covered streets. (We don't have sidewalks down here.) But then YOU had your street cleared, so you criticize everyone for noting they didn't. I bet yours will be the first whiny voice on the line to 311 when your street gets missed.
ReplyDeleteAnd--Newsflash!--the homeowners associations and CIDs are not responsible for snow removal. That's what we pay property tax for, and Waldo's taxes are probably a tad higher than those around 59th & Michigan, so we're subsidizing you. I have no idea what you mean by we "opted out," and I suspect you have no idea what you're talking about, either.
I've never heard a bigger bunch of pussys in my life! Goddamn, you are some wormy ass people.
ReplyDeleteUgggh..just sickening. You fucking Nancy's haven't a prayer.
I'd kill every one of you if the shit hit the fan,put you straight out of your misery.
You are no good to yourselves and damn sure to anyone else
worthless, weak, pathetic excuses for men and women ..
Helpless and hopeless ..stay outta my way, or you will know what rough is, if only for a minute or two.
7:04
ReplyDeleteHi Pat Klein.
Is there way way we could get the State to takeover snow removal for Sly?
ReplyDeleteIn river market CID used t clean sidewalks adjacent to public properties. They stopped last year and aren't doing it again this year.
ReplyDeleteAngry place...
ReplyDeleteSo, 6:18, you live in a neighborhood too crappy to have sidewalks? And you think your property taxes are higher than mine?
ReplyDeleteHope you made it to the outhouse. Of course, you probably expect the city to shovel the path to that outhouse for you.
Which gets us back to Tony's original Northland "tipster."
This sap lies that the streets weren't plowed at all, then he lies about huge ice blocks after three days of melting a few inches of snow blocking his driveway and mailbox.
Two ridiculous, bald-faced lies, and Tony prints it without bothering to ask where it is so it could be checked out.'
Sorry, 7:07. Our streets weren't plowed at all. Not even the single swipe we usually get. And yes, the snow is melting, but the streets are still slick in spots as of this morning (Saturday). I know this because I took a 3-mile walk on them, so you enjoy bloviating at Jimmy John's today about all the people lying about how little they get for their tax dollars. And I'm happy you were able to shovel your way to your outhouse. I'd hate to know what the shit that comes from whatever you're drinking and smoking smells like.
ReplyDeleteKC streets are a joke, those defending this mess are obviously just wanting to pick up a check.
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