DEAD TREE MEDIA TREND: SUBSCRIBERS CANCEL SUBSCRIPTIONS EN MASSE OVER AMERICAN SNIPER POLITICAL COMIC!!!
More bad news for Kansas City Dead Tree Media over their editorial decisions . . .
To wit . . .
THROUGHOUT LOCAL SOCIAL MEDIA WE SEE RAGE OVER A RECENT DEAD TREE MEDIA COMIC TAKING AIM AT THE SO-CALLED AMERICAN SNIPER!!!
Background on the controversy . . .
Political cartoon's timing disrespects SEAL Chris Kyle’s death
So far we've personally counted more than two dozen local social media denizens who have called it quits with The Star over this issue . . . And nowadays, that probably represents about half of their subscription base (lolz). More importantly, what this represents is YET ANOTHER instance where corporate media pushback via the Internets hurts the bottom line of an already beleaguered local institution.
DEVELOPING . . .
Can I cancel my subscription to TKC?
ReplyDeleteFuck the star. Things a rag, delivering yesterdays news. Between Yael and this shit, the star is obviously a group of shitheads.
ReplyDeleteMaybe sensitivity among readers is why your blog doesn't grow.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the point is Chris fought for among other things the right of Lee Judge to make his point his way. It's called freedom baby.
ReplyDeletehe's not being arrested, or detained, or brought to trial. his freedoms and job title aren't being removed. but in the same vein that Judge can voice his opinion, so can the subscribers.
DeleteThis is Obamas and The Libruls fault.
ReplyDeleteNo doubt Judge will have to deal with with threats from every unhinged gun addicted wacko in the country.
ReplyDeleteAs a fellow cartoonist who got his start after receiving advice from Lee Judge, I applaud him for having the balls to draw this cartoon, but it truly misses the point and is only funny if you lack a holistic view of American freedom.
ReplyDeleteIt's easy to come to the conclusion "Gun=Bad" because that's what they teach you in elementary school, but it's unfortunate that some people don't evolve beyond this simple view, and it's a shame that there are enough people in America who would be willing to exploit the death of an American hero to advance an antiFreedom agenda.
+1 elBryan
ReplyDeleteNo doubt citizens will have to deal with with unconstitutional threats from every unhinged gun-hating libtard wacko in the country.
ReplyDeleteThe IDIOTS who r cancelling their subscriptions because theyr BUTT-HURT over the SUCCINT POINT that Judge made are probably the same IDIOTS who showed no RESPECT for CINDY SHEEHAN! The cartoon uses the snipers tragic death to comment on the DELUSIONAL IDIOTS who believe theyr going to go all CHUCK NORRIS on a bad guy with a gun! You never KNOW, therefore you can never b PREPARED for MAYHEM! If a BADASS SNIPER at a GUN RANGE can get taken out by a NUT, then u fuckin IDIOTS screamin about your 2nd amendment rights dont stand a chance either!
ReplyDelete6:56 has apparently let the Haldol® prescription go unfilled again.
ReplyDeleteSure, you can cancel your subscription to TKC, just turn off the computer, you fucking idiot! And then, keep it turned off, so the rest of us don't have to read your idiotic fucking comments.
ReplyDeleteExcellent point Bryan. But I am still cancelled the star and I am not looking back.
ReplyDeleteIt's actually a good cartoon if viewers have the mental skill and acuity to understand it.
ReplyDeleteWhile El Bryan may b a talented cartoonist he obviously knows nothing about political catrooning and you pro gun nuts are only SEEING and BELIEVING what you WANT TO. Judge is NOT saying GUN equals BAD and he is.NOT exploiting the death of an American hero to further an anti-freedom agenda. ( I'll say it again REAL SLOW so youll hopefully understand) He is mocking the motto of the delusional gun guy who has seen too.many action movies and believes he is.going to be the ULTIMO HOMBRE in a shootout with some NUT. THATS the point hes making.
ReplyDeleteAnd by the way, @7:18: ur cancelling your SUBSCRIPTION to the Star? Why did you HAVE one in the FIRST PLACE?
And also, you idiot,.EB... the cartoon isnt MEANT to be funny!
ReplyDeleteOK, it's now obvious that both the Haldol® and the Prolixin® prescriptions have gone unfilled for the author of 6:56, 7:39 and 7:42.
ReplyDeleteSeek help.
I also cancelled my subscription. I hung onto to it for several reasons...being supportive of the City's daily, the sports page, reading about City Hall. And as someone who called the Reader Rep and had Judge's cartoon explained to me in painful detail, I think I understand better than the screamers at 7:39 and 6:56 would like to think, and no doubt better than they themselves do, the thought processes that went into the cartoon.
ReplyDeleteYes Judge was making a mockery of the NRA's Wayne Lapierre's idea that more good guys need guns. Maybe it's an idea worth mocking, I don't know. But I do know this: to use the death of an American hero, a man who saved dozens of lives and returned people alive to their families, a man who set up a foundation to help wounded warriors, a man who spent his life after active duty trying to help soldiers transition back to civilian life (something our government has failed miserably at doing), a man who was killed helping a fellow soldier, is disgusting, vile, and I'll go as far to say, evil.
Pick on the NRA. Pick on Lapierre. Hell, pick on Dirty Harry. But don't use a dead hero who was buried last week as a political pawn in some cartoon. It's disrespectful, and it crossed the line.
In his article, and in my phone conversation with him, Derek Donovan stated that political cartoons were supposed to stir emotions, make people think, etc. Well, my emotions were stirred and that's why I cancelled my subscription I've had nearly 30 years. When cartoonists justify their actions saying they're supposed to stir things up, they'd better be prepared for all outcomes of such stirring.
+100 8:18 PM!
ReplyDeleteHave u stopped go think thatt maybe Judge is HONORING a fallen hero by sending a message to these WANNABE HEROS to LEAVE THE DEFENDING TO THE PROFESSIONALS?
ReplyDeleteAlso... @8/10 obviously doesnt understand SATIRE when someone PARODIES Tonys SCREAMIMG HEADLINES from the days of "LUSITANIA SUNK!" days of yellow journalism
CAN YOUR EGO GET ANY BIGGER?
ReplyDeleteThe above comment was mistakenly attributed to anonymous. It should have been attributed to the editor
DeleteLotta silence out there... I bet alotta people clicked on to that cartoon and saw it in a different light...
ReplyDeletesumbuddy cant spel
ReplyDeletesumbuddy cant spel
ReplyDeleteLets see how many of u IDIOTS knows anything about NEWSPAPERS or even JOURNALISM- including YOU, T... Whats @8:51 referring to?
ReplyDelete8:27, yeah, I stopped to think about maybe Judge was honoring Chris Kyle. Then I spoke to the Reader Rep, and I quickly discarded that notion. And you've got one hell of a nerve calling Chris Kyle a "wannabe hero." Who in the hell do you think you are? Chris Kyle is a true American hero, a selfless man and soldier who saved lives, and died trying to help a fellow soldier. He didn't take any profits from his book "American Sniper" but rather put them in his foundation to help other soldiers.
ReplyDeleteHe is a true hero and patriot. What can anyone say about you?!
If you'll get ur head out of ur jingoistic ass and read the comments again I wasnt saying that about the SNIPER, I was calling the delusional CIVILIANS wannabe heros! Again, youre only hearing what u WANT to hear.
ReplyDelete9:08, maybe if you could write clearly and succinctly, people would know what you mean. I agree with 9:00 and you know nothing about my ass, jingoistic or otherwise.
ReplyDeleteIt took u 20 mins to look up JINGOISTIC... on a COMPUTER?!
ReplyDeleteSorry 9:32 and 9:36, it wasn't the editor. Just another commenter in agreement with a few others, and who ALSO cancelled their KC Star subscription because of the cartoon.
ReplyDeleteRIP and God Bless Chris Kyle
Yael is apparently without his spell checker and anti-psychotic meds tonight.
ReplyDeleteChris Kyle is an American hero. Absolutely beyond question.
ReplyDeleteHe was also a "good guy with a gun" to quote LaPierre.
Here is something else to think about. Back in 1981, all those Secret Service agents around President Reagan were also "good guys with guns" and were extremely highly trained, even to the point of giving up their lives.
Did any of those "good guys with guns" stop one nut with a gun?
That, sirs, is the point Judge was making.
Judge can suck my ass after the chili cook-off finals.
ReplyDeleteOK 10:10, no more guns for the Secret Service. Make them call "9-1-1".
ReplyDeleteSoldiers are BORN, they are not drafted or trained. The spirit of a man or woman like Chris Kyle doesnt dwell in the the likes of the average person buying assault weapons at a gun show or practicing at a shooting range. These civilians are not soldiers. If they had what it took then they would be in uniform. The cartoon was meant as a comment on the nra's slogan- or, better still- selling point to the public in the wake of the aurora and sandyhook murders...
ReplyDeleteRIP and God Bless, Chris Kyle
Don't take a veteran suffering from PTSD to a gun range. What person in their right mind would think that was a reasonable thing to do? Only a person for whom 'guns are a way of life'.
ReplyDeleteChris was a hero, and I don't want to demean his death, but, as we used to say in the Army, he missed an important block of instruction. If someone in your house is suffering from emotional or psychological disorders and are making statements to the effect that might hurt themselves or others, you never put a firearm in their hands. Not ever! I spent 22years in the Army, in tanks. I was a Master Gunner for 16 of those years, a school-trained weapons systems expert. I studied ballistic firing charts and weapon characteristics, troubleshooting and repairing of weapons, and setting up and operating live fire ranges. There aren't many weapons in the Army's inventory I didn't learn to qualify on; not bam-bam, firing them, but qualifying them in timed presentations with different target arrays and scenarios. I lived on ranges for weeks at a time. I made ranges from nothing, in some remote desert floor, briefing a range safety officer on my Surface Diagram Area Zone, digging the target pits and berms, setting up the firing points and lanes for direct fire and indirect fire, grenade sumps, lanes for squad assault courses and for engineers. The Army, from day 1, teaches that firearms are called weapons, not guns; weapons are deadly; they kill, and they don't care who they kill. We teach this for two reasons. The first is to make the soldier respect the weapon, and the second is for him to empty his mind of everything else and think about nothing but his weapon and his handling of it.
ReplyDeleteIt is the right of everyone to own a firearm, but not everyone should. Many people have been enticed to own firearms, but they are not capable of those two tenets. I see it by the way they drive. They don't understand respect for a deadly weapon, and they don't have the ability to empty their minds of everything else and think about nothing but that weapon. Consequently they either have a lapse of sound judgment, or they're lazy and stupid in the handling of their weapons. With respect to Chris, I have had Sergeant Majors who had a kid with an emotional disorder, come up and tell me; "I had to get rid of my gun collection. I loved my guns, but I can't have a gun in the house. My kid might shoot my wife and I while we're sleeping." Chris knew firearms very well, but he had a lapse of judgment. He put a loaded weapon into the hands of someone suffering from PTSD, and who had made statements he might hurt others, and Chris' lapse of judgment cost him his life and the life of his friend. The mother of the Newtown shooter used extremely poor judgment. She used firearms as an attempt to bring him out of his black moods and it cost her not just her own life but a lot of others.
Socialist nanny-state liberals know nothing of liberty and honor.
ReplyDeleteIf one is going to own a firearm, they need to know how to safely clear it, safely load and unload it, how to troubleshoot and perform immediate action when it jams, how to assemble and disassemble. They need to know the functions of the cycling of a round for that weapon, and how to check to see if the functions are being performed. They should perform all those steps until they know it by rote and can do it in the middle of the night. If they are not willing to do that and are not capable of doing it, they shouldn't own a firearm; because they are a threat to the safety of others. Recently a man walked into a gun show with a shotgun he wanted to sell. The shotgun had a round in it, went off, and hit someone. Fortunately it was only birdshot. Another man bought a handgun and loaded it while he walked to his car. He shot himself in the leg. Just recently, in town, a man left a loaded handgun on a counter. His three-year-old picked it up and shot him. Stupidity and laziness. None of them had any business owning a firearm, because if you don't understand and respect them, and if you have a lapse of judgment or concentration, people get hurt by them.
ReplyDeleteThere are too many firearms in this country. Thousands of people a year are now killed by firearms. More people die from firearms than just about anything else, and for most of them, their only fault was being in the line of fire when the gun went off. It wasn't like this when I was growing up. People owned firearms only if they had the disposition to focus on them, and they had a use or need for them. If they didn't have a need or the disposition, they were discouraged from getting one. I blame the NRA for this. Its nothing more than a PR front for the gun industry. The gun industry wants to sell all the firearms they can; they don't care who or how many are killed because of them, all they care about is making more money for themselves. They have become the evil spawn of the devil.
It is everyone's right to own a gun, but it is not your right to own whatever gun you want. The Supreme Court, long ago, affirmed that we can't be in possession of machine guns, C4, cannons, and grenades. The .50 cal Barrett that Christopher Dorner used is a perfect example of a weapon that has no business in a civilian society. It is of no use for anything but killing other people. Even the Army and Marines don't want it; they have gone to a 7.62mm for their snipers. Of course assault rifles can be banned, and the regulation of the sale of firearms can be strictly enforced, and your 2d Amendment rights are still intact.
Actually more people die every year from cars and hammers. Maybe we should all start walking again and living in mud huts. You need to close your mouth and stop talking you are not smart.
Deletetrue dat 10:25
ReplyDeleteVoice of reason
10:25 is a shill.
ReplyDeleteAsk Feinstein/Brady/Cuomo for a raise and go spread your B.S. elsewhere.
LMFAO @ 10:25 - professing expertise and then using the ill-informed formulaic propaganda of the left.
ReplyDeleteYour last sentence alone reveals you are nothing but a shill.
I'm building a nuclear bomb. The Second Amendment says I have the right to bear arms.
ReplyDeleteAllready got one dipshit !
DeleteYou have a right to be dictated to by me.
ReplyDeleteYou have a right to obey me.
You have a right to be groped by a security theatre specialist goon at the airport.
You have the right to do what you are told.
Have a nice day.
Now, where's my caddy.
10:25, I don't disagree that gun owners should be trained, know their weapons and how to maintain them, respect them, be licensed. I myself am a gun owner and I am all of those things. But who decides who "needs" a gun and what gun is needed? That's not a decision I'm willing to leave up to the government, who won't to control the capacity of my magazines and many other issues.
ReplyDeleteLets turn our attention to another machine in society that kills innocent people: the automobile. Some people operate them recklessly and really don't know what they are doing. Some people don't maintain them well so the cars are not safe. Many do not follow the rules of operation. Many people are banned from operating one but do so anyway. Some cars are stolen and used in a crime (sound familiar?).
Guns kill about 30,000 people per year. Many, if not most, of those deaths were intentionally, albeit illegally, caused.
Car crashes kill about 34,000 people per year. While you really can't call the crashes intentional, the vast majority were avoidable as they were caused by people not operating the machine as it was intended or legally supposed to be operated. And most all were illegal as opposed to being just an "accident".
I have a 2nd Amendment write to own a firearm, allowing that I'm not a felon, etc. I have no right to drive a car.
I know how you want to fix the gun deaths issue. Tell me what you'll do about the car death issue?
Some times good guys with guns still die. Having a gun doesn't mean the good guy is always going to win, but at least it means you have an opportunity to defend yourself. Exploiting this man's death accomplishes Judge's goal by advancing enraged dialogue about guns, but as I said before, it misses the point because no one ever made the argument that guns can't be misused for evil, or that good guys are invincible.
ReplyDeleteFuck, if someone was crazy enough, they could take down Mike Tyson with a baseball bat if they took him unaware, so using this tragedy to undercut a statement the NRA made defending the second amendment is infantile.
This cartoon sucks, but not for lack of humor or guts... just because it's wrong.
The real question is, who still has a Star subscription they can cancel?
Jeez... Can u cram any MORE double nevatives into that last sentence of that first paragraph? And that Tyson, baseball bat analogy is convoluted logic if I ever heard it!
DeleteWhat hoppa, EB? The Star shot down too many of ideas?
Gun Control and the Constitution
ReplyDeleteThe courts would no more allow government to undermine the Second Amendment than the First.
Could there be a better illustration of the cultural divide over firearms than the White House photograph of our skeet-shooting president? Clay pigeons are launched into the air, but the president's smoking shotgun is level with the ground. This is not a man who is comfortable around guns. And that goes a long way toward explaining his gun-control agenda.
Lack of informed presidential leadership aside, there is a gulf between those Americans who view guns as invaluable tools for self-defense, both against private wrongdoers and a potentially tyrannical government, and those who regard that concept as hopelessly archaic and even subversive. For them, hunting is the only possible legitimate use of firearms, and gun ownership should be restricted to weapons suited to that purpose.
Follow the link for the rest.
elBryan, well said. Coming from a cartoonist, it means even more. Thanks for putting into words what a lot of us are thinking and probably couldn't express.
ReplyDeleteYou said it: this cartoon is just wrong.
Oh, wait! Its UNITED FEATURES SYNDICATE that keeps shooting down EBs ideas, not The Star! Tbe Star RUNS all those strips! Maybe EB had an idea for a FAT, CHEETO munchin BLOGGER in mind and it got REJECTED! So, c'mon... Lets ALL cancel!
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ReplyDeleteWe have the Judge.
Unless you renew your subscription we'll get the Jury and the Executioner as well.
I would dine on Obama poo if that damn secret service would stop tasing me!
ReplyDeleteGlazer is going to show his secret gold badgey thingy to Judge.
ReplyDeleteOr is that to the Judge?
KC Star wants to be PRAVDA
ReplyDeleteyeah... The same paper that ran an editorial cartoon showing Obamas FACE on a DRONE. yeah... Thats a commie rag JOHN REED would b proud of!
DeleteI've lost any respect I ever had for the STAR. I'll not buy that trash paper again.
ReplyDeletePitchforks.
ReplyDeleteTorches.
Rope.
Tree.
11:11 and 11:21, why don't you shut your fat mouth on your big meat head unless you can bring something both intelligent and coherent to the table? elBryan gets published, which I'm sure is more of an accomplishment than you'll ever manage, and he doesn't take the standard political cartoonist easy way out. That's to be admired and respected.
ReplyDeleteThe above comment was mistakenly attributed to anonymous. It should have read The Editor
ReplyDeleteAnd for my next trick, I draw a cartoon of the newspaper going bankrupt.
ReplyDelete11:49, it really bugs you when people on this blog who are not TKC score a point, doesn't it? Well, the comment wasn't from TKC. And The Star fired all of their editors which is why the paper is laden with typos and grammar errors. So deal with it.
ReplyDelete11:51, we can only hope. And that it's soon.
ReplyDeleteWe'll get a Pullet Surprise, I just know it!
ReplyDeleteLook, if Barry Soetoro gets free golf and a Nobel, we're a shoe-in!
Jeez... Its so OBVIOUS when either Tony or one of his minions is juicing the comments, like @11:01. How stilted and schmaltzy 'suck up talk show sidskick' sounding was THAT!
ReplyDeleteWorship my pen.
ReplyDeletew.b. Williams at 12:01, what is so obvious to your delusional brain must be right up there with those voices only you can hear. I wrote that comment, and I am no one's minion. I genuinely admire el Bryan's comment, as well as like his work in the NE News. He's a bright and creative talent.
ReplyDeleteAs for juicing the comments, I'm simply expressing my opinion, not signing in under different names in all lower-case letters (who are you, e e cummings?) to juice the comments, try to make The Star look good (an impossible task), and sla, people who are expressing their opinions.
Well spoken 10:24! (1st one)
ReplyDeleteWe direct the narrative.
ReplyDeleteResistance is futile.
The Falling Star....A waste of good paper!!
ReplyDeleteWe are the perfect paper.
ReplyDeleteMany parakeets love us daily.
If you're implying that I work for the Star- I dont. I READ the star. Ive seen EBs work and as I stated earlier hes talented. But if hes going to be an OUTSPOKEN CRITIC of one of his colleagues in a public.forum such as TCK where the limits of FREE SPEECH are stretched to the limits, then maybe he AND his fans should develop THICKER SKIN
ReplyDelete"this cartoon sucks..." - el Bryan on l.judges cartoon, 2/2013
Congratulations to Lee Judge!
ReplyDeleteHe's helping the Star maintain the lofty position of THE excrementary newspaper.
A woman I really admire inspired me to say that you have to cancel the subscription before you can read what's in the subscription.
ReplyDeleteThe KC Star: Giving everyone a giant goatsee with pride.
ReplyDeleteAgree with El Bryan, that cartoon would have worked in new york. Not in the Midwest.
ReplyDeleteLee Judge=El Bryan only mainstream.
ReplyDeleteThe shootings will continue until everyone is dead.
ReplyDeleteThe American Sniper has his book out in paperback. Barnes and Noble has nice dispaly racks just for the book, in which he brags about all the people he killed.
ReplyDeleteLIVE BY THE SWORD, DIE BY THE SWORD>
Chris Kyle enjoyd his work. A nut who found an acceptable outlet as a paid killer for the govmint.
ReplyDeleteI guess there's not many "Thall shall not kill" and "Turn the other cheek" types around anymore, huh?
ReplyDeleteIt's simple. Don't buy anymore papers AND don't support any advertisers in the fucking Star. Period.
ReplyDeleteNo, Bryan, calling the cartoon "infantile" is, well, infantile.
ReplyDeleteYou can disagree with it as long as you do so honestly. In other words, don't let your ideology turn it into something you wanted Judge to say, instead of what he actually said.
Judge was going after the notion that the solution to gun violence is more guns in the hands of "good guys."
You can disagree with him on that point, which is certainly something that adults should be able to debate.
But as for me, I'd rather shoot (pun intended) for a society in which you felt safe without having to pack to church, to the mall, to the movie theater, or to a grade school.
Lee Judge head = pink mist!
ReplyDelete8:09 - He gives terrible head.
ReplyDeletePeople who criticize Chris Kyle have zero comprehension of our military, especially our Navy SEALS. Chris Kyle saved dozens of lives. Many families got their lived ones home alive, as opposed to receiving a letter from the government. And these critics are not reading nor understanding the good works Kyle did when he returned home, after serving three tours of duty.
ReplyDeleteYou morons who say Kyle "enjoyed" his work or if you live by the sword you die by the sword are willingly ignoring the facts of how our military works, how Chris Kyle worked, and how the world works.
To the cretin who says Judge's critics should develop thicker skin: it's not a question of having thick skin, it's a question of understanding what Judge's message was, taking the time to discern what it was, and making a decision based on morals and ethics, not raw emotions. The thick one in the room is you, k. solomon, and I'm not talking about your skin.
7:19, have to disagree with your assessment of el Bryan's take on the cartoon. He wasn't questioning the message Judge was sending. He was questioning the way it was sent. Many people agree with el Bryan, myself included. I don't agree with the message of the NRA, but strongly disagree with Judge using Chris Kyle's death to make his point. I won't belabor the issue, as the point has made on this thread.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing I love more than guns is a black cock shoved up my ass.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing I love more than guns is a black cock shoved up my ass.
ReplyDeleteSeems The Star might be bugged by the cancellations. When I called the paper's subscription services, which they've out-sourced oversees to the Phillipines, the clerk asked lots of questions as to why I was canceling. I told her I'd already told the Reader Rep but she wanted to know, so I told her. She assured me she would pass the information on.
ReplyDeleteThis morning I get a phone call from The Star (locally), and Colleen says "You were a long-time subscriber and now you're not. What happened?" I told her Lee Judge's cartoon of 2/9/13 happened. She knew instantly what I was talking about and said, "oh well, ok" and I hung up. I bet they hear that a lot in the next few weeks.
10:12, then why don't you run for office?
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ReplyDeleteWow, Obama commented at 10:11 AND 10:12!!!
What is really sad, and, I'm afraid, indicative of our time is that a clear majority just don't get the point of the cartoon.
ReplyDeleteLighten up guys. It's a cartoon. When I saw it I chuckled.
ReplyDelete3:31, you are a sick, twisted fuck. Just like Judge.
ReplyDelete100th comment. Suck it!! Lol
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