Phill Kline has gone crazy again
I hate abortions as much as anybody else (that's why I don't have them) but it seems that Phill Kline really is on some kind of crusade . . . And it's cost him a political career but obviously there's no denying that this unelected public official means what he says and is willing to make every Kansas Republican suffer for it. From Crime Scene KC: "Johnson County District Attorney Phill Kline has charged the Overland Park Planned Parenthood clinic with more than 100 criminal counts, including performing illegal late-term abortions."
posted by Tony Permalink
For once, I'm hoping I get called for jury duty to put this madman in his place.
Perhaps you should keep your uninformed opinions to yourselves, as there is no value to them when you are utterly clueless about what you are talking about.
You say you are against abortions, yet you automatically assume that Kline is wrong and the abortion provider (charged with filing false documents, among other things) is right.
Take a deep breath and wait for the facts.
Good for Phil Kline. If nobody else will stand against it maybe he can actually get something done what so many people have tried.
One clinic at a time.
You puked "you automatically assume that Kline is wrong and the abortion provider (charged with filing false documents, among other things) is right"
You automatically assumed the provider was guilty. Kline got slapped down by the AG on this issue already. And the AG stated today that there was no merit to it and it was political.
As someone who has had an abortion at Comprehensive Health, I know Phill Kline is right. I read the affidavit and all the abortions mentioned were more recent than mine. Mine was in December 1979. I was young, scared, single, and didn't know what to do. I went to Comprehensive Health (now Comprehensive Health/Planned Parenthood). The doctor examined me and told me I was more than 22 weeks; that really they were not supposed to do an abortion that late. I burst into tears because I didn't know what I was going to do.
The doctor then told me that he would go ahead and do the abortion, but it would cost more. I told him I only had XXXX amount of money, which I had been told would be the cost. And he said okay, to pay that that day, but to send in more later to cover the difference.
I was not told anything about the development of the baby at my stage of pregnancy, as I keep hearing you are supposed to be told before you give consent for the procedure. I was shown a plastic form of a uterus and shown how they would go through the cervix and perform the procedure.
Once I got into the procedure room and they had begun, I said "I changed my mind...I don't want to have this done." The doctor told me in no uncertain terms that it was TOO LATE to change my mind. He seemed worried, actually, that I was going to get up and walk out of there.
I didn't find out until many years later when I worked in a hospital just how developed my baby was at the time of my abortion. It makes me sick to think about it.
I am in no way saying I am not to blame. I do blame myself and I wish I had known at the time just how fully developed my baby was. I have seen babies at the same gestational age survive and thrive.
But I know firsthand that Comprehensive Health DOES perform illegal late term abortions, because they performed one on me. And I have never contacted Comprehensive Health or Phill Kline or anyone else about it, and have no desire to. But I do hope they are held accountable for performing illegal abortions. I suspect it is done rather routinely, as in my case.
To answer anonymous said @ 1:19am:
1. In 1979, abortions were legal up to 24 weeks as they are today. Also, keep in mind the number of laws that have been passed to make abortion safer for women over the last 28 years.
2. The "Women's Right to Know Act" was not passed until the '90s so it was not required that you know about the development of the fetus prior to giving consent for the procedure.
3. Once the procedure begins, you cannot change your mind. Do your research!
4. The bottom line is...is that you exercised your right, a right you would not have had if Roe v. Wade was not decided in 1973. Women still have that right. Trust women.
Anonymous of 1:19 a.m. answering anonymous of 10:42 a.m.:
1. The doctor clearly told me that I was too far along for them to perform the abortion there. No matter how SAFE it was, it was illegal.
2. True, but even back then, there was talk that women should be INFORMED of the development and viability of the fetus. It may not have been a law, but it could have/should have been done.
3. Being in the medical field myself now, I am fully aware of that. Actually I COULD have done; I would have had to sign a form saing I was leaving against medical advice, but they couldn't physically restrain me and keep me there. The reason I didn't leave is that I was afraid it would cause suffering to the fetus to leave with the procedure barely begun. But I think the doctor had visions of me leaving there, and showing up later in an ER where it would be confirmed that I was too far along to have a legal abortion, and he and Comprehensive Health would have been sued.
4. Yes, I did, and as I said that I blame myself for going through with it.
And nothing you said takes away from the fact that Comprehensive Health did indeed perform an illegal late term abortion on me in 1979. And if they did it then, I really do not think the allegations being made now, of cases that sound just like mine, are false.
And Planned Parenthood's cries of wanting to protect the confidential records of patients is bunk. What they want to do is cover their ass and not be sued for their illegal abortions. I am quite sure my records have long since been destroyed. I am equally sure that none of what I have told you happened, the actual gestational age and the fact that I asked him to stop the procedure, was documented in the record.
Anonymous again. I also want to add that I have no problem with women having a choice. I have no problem with that at all, as long as it is legal. But we are talking about the fact that the perform ILLEGAL late term abortions and then falsify the records to cover it up. That I have a problem with and that is the basis of my comments.
Good try Anonymous, I've read this very rehearsed statement before. Nice script.
Arkansas
Hey "right to choose" from Arkansas, I have no idea what you read before but it wasn't anything from me. I don't appreciate your "good try" and "very rehearsed statement" and "nice script" comments - because what I posted above is my own experience and I know nothing about what has happened to anyone else at that clinic, but I do know what happened to me.
I have never told that story to anyone before, but I posted it here hoping that people who reasonable and willing to listen to both sides will see that the charges filed against Comprehensive Health may be true. If I really wanted to cause a ruckus I guess I could contact Phill Kline and tell him my story, or go to the news media and tell them, or contact pro-life groups and tell them. But I posted it on one blog I happened to be reading because I had firsthand knowledge that Comprehensive Health has performed at least ONE illegal abortion, because I was the patient. It's not scripted or rehearsed, it is just my account of what happened to ME. I don't care at all about the political or moral implications of the whole thing, I just wanted to say that I know it happened to ME. You can believe it or not believe it; I don't really care. I'm just throwing my experience out there and maybe some others will say the same happened to them. If I had a political agenda I wouldn't post my experience once to a random blog and leave it at that. I don't WANT to tell the whole world my story. I have never even told the people closest to me the story because it was 28 years ago and it's something I really would rather forget ever happened.
So whether you believe it or not, that is my experience. If you choose to believe I am posting it because of some hidden agenda, you are wrong. But it makes no difference to me whether you believe it or not; I know the truth.
According to information I have found on another website, Kline is also:
"...focused on the reporting of underage sexual activity. Under Kansas law, it is not only illegal for a person under 16 to have sex with an adult, but it is also illegal for two people under 16 to have sex with each other. In a broad interpretation of Kansas’s mandatory reporting law related to child abuse and neglect, Kline has said that health care providers should be required to report any sexual interaction between teens under 16 as abuse, regardless of consent and the age difference between the partners. The definition of sexual interaction is so vague as to possibly include kissing or necking."
People, are you aware that in Nazi Germany and man could be arrested as a homosexual and then sent to a concentration camp for nothing more than just looking at another man "inappropriately". Is Klein (a German name, by-the-way) taking us down that historical path again? Apparently, by Kansas law, someone could be arrested for rape for nothing more than kissing another human being.
Anonymous 10:56 -- My heart goes out to you. You obviously have deep regret about your abortion. But with all respect...that was nearly 30 years ago. The Comprehensive Health clinic was privately owned at that time, and Planned Parenthood had no affiliation with it. Planned Parenthood has provided high quality and confidential medical care to women for over 70 years. They have prevented more abortions than any other organization through the provision of low cost exams and birth control.
anonymous -
you didn't receive care from planned parenthood over 30 years ago - they didn't operate comprehensive health until the late 90's.
planned parenthood helps women and families. they do more to prevent unintended pregnancies than all the the religious zealots put together. the vast majority of what they do includes family planning, well women exams, cancer screenings, sti tests and treatments and education.
it sounds like more people need real sex education, instead of abstinence only bs that phill kline and his ilk are constantly pusing.
Sounds to me like Comprehensive Health was performing late term illegal abortions since the 70s and nothing changed after they started being run by Planned Parenthood. Sounds like it was just business as usual. Planned Parenthood is a joke. They are biggest abortion mill there is and always have been and everyone knows that. Women's "rights" no matter how far along you are.
TO the lady that had a late term abortion in 1979, please reconsider contacting Phil Kline or other PRO-Life groups on this. I know it has been hard on you these past 28 years and it is ashame that you weren't made aware of how far along your baby was. Please use this horrible experience of yours to honor your baby by helping to stop others from making the same mistake. I urge you to find it in your heart to stop this abortion tragedy!!!!
Erica
Atlanta, GA
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