Today, the Star reports that the outgoing Parks Board members that Mayor Funkhouser badmouthed are talking back . . . Sandra Aust seemed to have the best statement:
Outgoing board President Sandra Aust said the park commission is made up of “dedicated citizens who have chosen to build bridges with others from every walk of life.”And here's another assertion I'd like to clear up for the local media:
She listed accomplishments of the past eight years, which included going from about 20 partnerships with the private sector to more than 100, adding 11 parks, planting 10,000 trees and implementing a park inspection program.
“I want to talk for a minute about what this commission is not,” Aust said. “It is not a place for partisan, personal or political gain. It is not a place to bring personal or biased agendas. It is not a place for divisiveness or parochial gamesmanship. It is not a place for pitting neighborhood against neighborhood, neighbor against neighbor or place against place.”
Aust also aimed her comments at another Funkhouser assertion, that the reason the park board was set up semi-independently of City Hall is that the city’s elites wanted it to be free from the influence of regular people.
“This commission is chartered the way that it is for a good reason,” Aust said. “Make no mistake about it. There is a very important reason why this commission operates independently, and it’s because our citizens mandated it and recently reaffirmed it in the new charter. They like the way it is.”
The Minutemen are not "a group that strongly opposes illegal immigration and most immigration reform."
The Minutemen ARE, IN FACT, a HATE GROUP.
Here's a bit of evidence from the World's most accurate encyclopedia according to the scholar and gentleman Byron Crawford (who isn't that crazy about illegals either, but who is?):
The Minuteman Project and it's chapters have been identified as a nativist extremist and hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.[17] The Anti-Defamation League has claimed that the Minuteman Project maintains connections with Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups.[18]Here's an even better depiction of the organization from the CS Monitor:
The project has generated controversy and former Mexican President Vicente Fox has criticized the group. United States President George W. Bush, has expressed dislike for "vigilante" border projects. [19]
Mr. Bush has labeled the Minutemen a vigilante group, and several border watchdog groups say it has increased fear, tension and misunderstanding at the border. "Adding vigilantes to the high tension that now exists at the border with smugglers and you create a potentially dangerous mix," says Erica Dahl-Bredine, who works on the Mexican side of the border for Catholic Relief Services in Tucson, Ariz.One more just for good measure from the ADL, who demonstrate how the Minutemen and other border vigilante groups are attracting Neo-Nazi types:
ADL Says Armed Anti-Immigration Groups in Arizona Share Ties to White SupremacistsNow, there's no denying that Frances Semler is a member of the Minutemen, so the question is clear:
Update (April 2005): Extremist groups along the Arizona-Mexico border continue to use radical tactics, including armed vigilante action, to promote an extreme anti-immigrant agenda. In addition to openly inviting people to "patrol" the borders using weapons and surveillance technology, new groups have formed and activity has expanded. Several members belonging to vigilante groups have been arrested on weapons charges and white supremacist and anti-governments groups continue to express interest.
Does Funkhouser stand with a member of a hate group? And is he even willing to recognize how the appointment of this hate group member is a direct affront to the entire Latino Community in Kansas City (whom TKC speaks for)?
If Ms. Semler wants to step down from the group, that's another story, but so far she hasn't mentioned any such thing.
They're bunkered down over at the Funkhouser camp and as usual don't want any community involvement that isn't "Pro-Funk" so I'm not counting on them stepping up to remedy the situation.
What I'd like to see is even more Latinos speak out on this issue. I'm working on something to that effect that just might debut in the next few days (or not).
One last thing, I usually don't address (or participate in) the comments but it's hard to believe that folks out there are silly enough to compare this stupid blog to elected officials or the activities of a small cadre of hate mongers who sit around all day and dream about shooting Mexicans. I know you so many of you don't believe it but this blog isn't a conspiracy or my attempt to take over the world through "reverse racism" or even a good promotional tool . . . It really just is a place to make lame attempts at humor . . . They jokes are in bad taste, on my best days I'm offensive but I've never held a gun on anyone, never had any say in how your taxes are spent and never garnered national media attention . . . This is blog is (bad) entertainment.
So, stop taking yourself (and me) so seriously Heidi.
Rather than bury this in yesterday's Funky item, I thought I'd move it up to this item since it's on the same topic:
ReplyDeleteDan, your going to tell me to "read, study, think," when you're the one who praised Funky's appointments without even knowing Semler's gender? Apparently the only person who knew less about Semler than you is Mayor Funky. But you still spouted off on how great they were.
And where exactly did you "embarrass" me? It's too bad you're too self-absorbed to realize how embarrassed you should be by your blind support for Funky. You might want to read Mark Forsythe's piece today and start displaying some actual principles.
Oh, and Mainstream, the Mayor ripped on Barnes for wasting city money with the $700 a month car lease, then he puts in place a $600 a month allowance for himself, and then he takes a free car from a dealer, and then today he tells us that he can't afford to buy a new car? You might want to tell him to figure out a plausible explanation. He's looking like a fool. If you can't figure out how to buy a decent car and pay insurance and gas for $600 a month plus your mayoral salary, then I'm sure you should be in charge of public funds.
Legal Hispanic Said:
ReplyDeleteA peticion popular, la opinion de un Hispano... Latino es un invento de la gente de mercadotecnia.
The outgoing members of the Parks Board express their sour grapes at losing a bit of panache and or social influence. That was to be expected. How many people do you know that celebrate being released from a job? The Dung pickers at the Elephant Enclosure at the KC Zoo don't count.
The lame assertion that "The Minutemen ARE, IN FACT, a HATE GROUP" is so badly documented that it begs to be outed like the choleostomy bag it is... The so-called "evidence from the World's most accurate encyclopedia" is comprised of: "The Minuteman Project and it's chapters have been identified as a nativist extremist and hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center" We've already lifted the sheets off the steaming pile of guano that is the SPLC and their opinion should have the worth of smegma. "The Anti-Defamation League has claimed that the Minuteman Project maintains connections with Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups", and I don't suppose that Neo-nazis might be attracted to the Minutemen, however, the Minutemen vet all members and will dismiss any member who is racist or engages in conduct that violates their rules. However, in 1993, the Police raided the ADL offices in San Francisco and Los Angeles and seized the computers of one of the ADL's researchers: Roy Bullock, a person who collected information and provided it to the ADL as a secretly-paid independent contractor over 32 years. A search of Bullock's computer revealed he had compiled files on 9,876 individuals and more than 950 groups across the political spectrum. Many of Bullock's files concerned groups that did not fit the mold of extremist groups, hate groups, and organizations hostile to Jews or Israel that the ADL would usually be interested in. Along with files on the Ku Klux Klan, White Aryan Resistance, and Islamic Jihad were data on the Jewish Defense League, the NAACP, the African National Congress (ANC), the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the United Auto Workers, the AIDS activist group ACT UP, Mother Jones magazine, the TASS Soviet/Russian news agency, Greenpeace, Jews for Jesus and the National Lawyers Guild; there were also files on politicians including conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche, Democratic U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi, and former Republican U.S. Rep. Pete McCloskey. The San Francisco district attorney at the time accused the ADL of conducting a national "spy network", but dropped all accusations a few months later. In the weeks following the raids, however, a private class-action lawsuit was filed in San Francisco Superior Court against the ADL. The plaintiffs' attorney, former Representative McCloskey, claimed that information the ADL gathered constituted an invasion of privacy. The ADL. Bullock admitted that he was overzealous, and that some of the ways he gathered information may have been illegal. (Meredith Jane Adams, "Anti-Defamation League may have broken records laws", Chicago Tribune, May 3, 1993). The lawsuit was settled out of court in 1999 . The ADL agreed to pay $175,000 for the court costs of the groups that sued it, promised that it would not seek information from sources it knew could not legally disclose such information, consented to remove sensitive information like criminal records or Social Security numbers from its files, and spent $25,000 to further relations between the Jewish, Arab and black communities. Sounds to me like the ADL may have strayed from the righteous path...
Then come the whoppers: "former Mexican President Vicente Fox has criticized the group. United States President George W. Bush, has expressed dislike for "vigilante" border projects." These two know-nothings whose passage through their respective presidencies have been the stuff of late night humor should not be taken seriously. Finally: Hector Carreon of the Hispanic separatist group Nation of Aztlán, writes, "The Minutemen have proven to be nothing less than a gang of anti-Mexican racists and their actions have the potential of alienating Mexico, its government and the millions of Americans of Mexican background." Here's a laugher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Aztl%C3%A1n The SPLC and the Anti-Defamation League label Voz de Aztlán as antisemitic. So we have the kettle calling the pot black... Hector Carreon is a former Brown Beret and Wikipedia describes them as "The Brown Berets were a Chicano nationalist activist group of young Mexican Americans during the Chicano Movement. Modeled after the Black Panther Party, the Brown Berets focused on community organizing against police brutality and were in favor of educational equality."
To date, no law eenforcement organization has come out and stated that the Minutemen are a violent or racist organization. Mayor Funkhouser is displaying statesmanship by not allowing a hissyfit by a couple of racist magpies with MacCartyst egos to sway his judgement. Mr. Fierro has shown more political accumen than the two other political "wanabes" by allowing time for Mrs. Semler to sink or swim on her own merits.
If you support illegal immigration, you are indeed having a say in how our taxes are spent. I for one, don't support illegal immigration for many reasons, but the main one is that as long as the disatisfied hordes of those countries are able to depart, the underlying causes of injustice and innequality in those countries will continue unadressed and unresolved.
Legal Hispanic, if I had 10 readers like you this site would top the Internets top 1000.
ReplyDeleteI'm not kidding. Thank you for your comments.
Legal Hispanic Said:
ReplyDeleteMuch obliged...
wow legal hispanic really is a scary person. good thing that person doesn't speak for the majority of the community.
ReplyDeleteLegal Hispanic Said:
ReplyDeleteDear gutless wonder:
Check the polls. Amnesty is opposed by 66% of most voters polled. The numbers are even higher among those who actually know what kind of "pig-in-a-poke" this flim-flam actually is.
Even among Hispanics, Proposition 200 in Arizona, an overwhelmingly Chicano microcosm, garnered 47% of the vote. Maybe the voice of NCLR and its local toadys is not that of American citizens of Hispanic heritage. We are U.S. citizens and look forward; not backwards.
Now, I don't understand why all the hissyfit and tantrum since the Parks commision has no impact on human rights or the city's current sanctuary policies. Frances would be dealing with flower beds, tree plantings and curtailing some of the more problematic issues pertaining using Parks as "by -the-hour-motels" by those too kinky to "get a room".
Maybe that is the agenda and the minuteman membership is a strraw-man to keep a conservative from thwarting alternative life couples from semi-public copulation on public facilities... After all, many of the same that sit on one activist group sit on the other... This kind of "intellectual" cross polination has ensured that "an united front" is often presented by the unorthodox, amarchist and comunist elites on issues that threaten to expose their seamier undersides.
Legal Hispanic Said:
ReplyDeleteWell, we certainly know that Rita Valenciano won't be nominating Frances Semler for the Mary Lona Diversity Award...
For those not familiar with the Mary Lona award, go to: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:efA65KfIArAJ:www.projectequality.org/newsletters/ud2003_1.htm+rita+valenciano&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=144&gl=us&ie=UTF-8
That document States among other things:
"The award is especially meaningful to Project Equality because of the life’s work of the woman for whom it was named. She was a friend of Project Equality and a lifelong soul-mate of Rita Valenciano, chair of Kansas-City’s board. Mary Lona died in a tragic car accident."
I also doubt that Frances Semler may become Rita's "soulmate"... What is that???? I don't think my best friends consider me in such passionate vein. Who knows, maybe Rita Valenciano has some other motives to keep a conservative off the "outdoor-motel" board.
Hey Legal Hispanic. I knew Mary Lona. You can't find one person who came into contact with her who doesn't think she was a saint. She was one of the best people to ever be a part of KC's Latino Community and everyone who was lucky enough to call her a friend misses her dearly.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what you're implying but I'm guess I'm glad you got me thinking about Mary again. I miss her.
Real Latino:
ReplyDelete6:02 pm you couldn't have said it better.
Legal "Hispanic" (wink-wink) its funny how you, like Lou Dobbs, try to spin your point by throwing "Amnesty" everywhere. Really you should get a Lou Dobbs or Kris Kobach autographed hood for that one. I say that because reality is that the polls speak a different story.
In fact, 62% of repondents from the very recent NY Times/CBS poll suggest that giving undocumented immigrants " a chance to keep their jobs and eventually apply for legal status". Even more detailed 67% favored “allowing illegal immigrants who came into the country before January to apply for a four-year visa that could be renewed, as long as they pay a $5,000 fine, a fee, showa clean work record, and pass a criminal background check.”
(up 3% from the March Poll)
It should also be noted that 49% of Republican voters believed that undocumented immigrants should be given a chance to apply for legal status vs. the 45% who said "deport them".
In an April USA Today/Gallup poll 78% said that they favored allowing illgal immigrants before january a path to apply for citizenship as long as they meet all of the requirements.
An April Washington Post/ABC News poll suggested that 62% of respondents said that “illegal immigrants who are living andworking in the United States now (should be offered a chance to keep their jobs and eventually apply for legal status)”
An april CNN/Opinion Research Poll suggested 77% of respondents favored a program that would allow “illegal immigrants alreadyliving in the United States for a number of years to stay in this country and apply for U.S.citizenship if they had a job and paid back taxes." while just 21% opposed such a program.
A March University of Iowa Poll when given these 4 options; CHOSE NUMBER 3 !!
1) deport all undocumented immigrants,
2) allow undocumentedimmigrants to remain in the U.S. to work for a limited amount of time (a guest workerprogram),
3) allow undocumented immigrants to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements like learning English and paying back taxes (earned citizenship), or
4) allowundocumented immigrants to become permanent residents with no requirements (amnesty)
The Field Poll, in March, stated that 83% of Californians agreed with those in Iowa, by saying that they favor the creation of a program that would allow undocumented immigrants “who have been living in the U.S. for a number of years anopportunity to stay in this country and apply for citizenship if they have a job, learned English and paid back taxes"
A March Cal State Univ. Sacramento study found 71% said that current undocumented workers should be allowed to stay in the country if they meet requirements.
88% OF LATINOS FAVORED THE SAME
And so did 56% of Republicans.
Pew Research Center for People & The Press, Gallup/USA Today, and Quinnipac University among many others also have similar polls that have been consistent since the November 2006 elections.
The Gallup study for this first half of the year stated that at least 6 in 10 Americans favor allowing illegal immigrants a chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements. Requirements like for example Speaking English which
to no surprise according to the US Census Bureau and the Department of Homeland Security (Bureau of Citizenship and Immigrant Services) within 10 years of arrival 75% of immigrants speak English well. Also ask any ESL teacher and they will tell you that the demand for their services are far greater than the supply. To no surprise completely different than the trash outline that you have taken from your boys Lou Dobbs and the Minutemen.
You know what, I used to like Lou Dobbs because he would stick up for the hard working blue collar people in this room; that was until he has become so obsessed with being anti-immigrant that he has now jumped on the bandwagon of anyone anti-immigration; which consquently enough has brought him to the line of being racist.
I should also say, before you state otherwise, that I agree that something needs to be done about illegal immigration, but that it has to be something of intelligence and not anything like that in which come out of the mouths of people like Lou Dobbs, Michele Malkin, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Neil Boortz, Mark Levin, Michael Savage, the Minutemen, many of state and national Republican legislators looking to get elected again and lets not forget yourself.
People like that are so focused on other things be it political popularity, hatred, racism, prejudice, placing people in social classes societies, etc. that they don't even care to come up with any plan logical, educated nor intelligent.
They want laws to round up the brown people, they want to make it legal for anyone to go up to someone they suspect is illegal and ask for their papers on the spot. They want local law enforcement to ask anyone they wish for their papers. They want Universities to turn off students by asking certain people (aka Latinos) for proof of citizenship. They even want landlords to ask for citizenship papers before renting. What's even funny is that anyone opposing this radical stance (50% of Republicans and overwhelming majority of Democrats) is called "comunist elites" and whatever else it is that hatemongers like those names previously mentioned think of at the moment.
What's next from these people? Will Children of perceived illegal immigrants have to drink from different water fountains, or use different bathrooms, or attend different schools?
Seriously, with people like Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage and Lou Dobbs stating that illegal immigrants are "threatening the health of many Americans' through 'deadly imports' of diseases like leprosy and malaria." , are "changing the complexion" of America, "changing the ethnic landscape", AND with people like John Gibson stating "You know what that means? Twenty-five years and the majority of the population is Hispanic." and following with a demand of: "To put it bluntly, we need more babies." you can't help but ask! And you can't help but wonder when the legislation previously mentioned passes or when that day just mentioned comes where will you stand? It seems that we know the answer, as you would assumingly careless because hey..you have your papers right? So we'll probably expect you to mandarles a la chingada.
Either way the Bottom lineis that Their anger and hatred has their priorities completely out of order and their racist, prejudice and ethnocentric statements are good for nothing but an attempt to get all of our priorities in a ball of confusion.
When I took this snap shot the war was costing the Nation $434,327,585,524 and
Kansas City $512,524,621 (and increasing by the second). Imagine what that funding could have been used for with regards to immigration. Now imagine what that could be used for in our community. Let me give you an idea:
That alone could have bought Kansas City 8,882 teachers or provided 24,846 four year college scholarships OR allowed us to insure 306,901 kids.
With Literacy Kansas City stating that approximately 225,000 adults are considered functionally illiterate, and KC Business Journal stating that 190,000 people are without Health Insurance, I think we need to be focusing on issues that will bring us into the future and not back to before 1964. I think that includes not placing members of nativist extremist groups or hate groups in such positions.
I know plenty of elected officials around this country and the vast majority if not all ask what organizations you belong to because these types of things can happen. Likewise many people can and should rightfully be offended when they do happen and especially when you and the elected officials choose to do nothing about it; because in the end whether you like it or not it is a sign of where those people actually stands with you and your community.
Legal Hispanic Said:
ReplyDeleteReal Latino: Nice try at blurring the issue. It is true that some polls do show generous Americans favoring a path to citizenship over rounding up tens of millions of illegals and shipping them home like cattle. There is an option not mentioned in your polls: Enforcement of immigration and labor laws. If authorities start enforcing immigration laws, there won't be a "round-up" No work will force most to return to their countries, or better yet, go to Canada. As a great sttesman once said: "There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.
A more recent "Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 51% would like their legislators to “take smaller steps towards reform” while 16% believe they should wait until next year. The survey was conducted on Monday and Tuesday night as the President was publicly attempting to rally support for the legislation.
Sixty-nine percent (69%) of voters would favor an approach that focuses exclusively on “exclusively on securing the border and reducing illegal immigration.” Support for the enforcement only approach comes from 84% of Republicans, 55% of Democrats, and 69% of those not affiliated with either major party.
Overall, just 21% are opposed to the enforcement-only approach.
Just 30% would favor legislation that focused “exclusively on legalizing the status of undocumented workers already living in the United States.” Fifty-seven percent (57%) oppose that strategy, including 63% of Republicans, 52% of Democrats, and 55% of unaffiliated voters.
Fifty-seven percent (57%) favor a proposal giving “all illegal aliens up to three years to leave the United States. After leaving, the illegal aliens would have to get in line and wait their turn for legal entry into the United States.” Support for that concept comes from 67% of Republicans, 49% of Democrats, and 56% of unaffiliated voters."
In other words, "Young Grasshopper", respondents don't count in this debate; Voters do.
Another "Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll found that just 23% of Americans supported the legislation. When a bill has less popular support than the War in Iraq, it deserves to be defeated."
Considering that illegal alien employment suppresses employment of teens, recently released prisoners and other who used to do the kind of "hot & dirty" jobs currently occupied by illegals, Lou Dobbs crusade against thes shifting of other countries responsibilities upon our taxpayers is definitely a struggle in favor of the working men and women of our country.
When it comes to this issue, color, race or origin are not important. What is important is the conscious action by a foreigner to break our laws by trampling over our borders or drawing a visitor visa with false pretenses.
We already have laws to curtail illegal alien employment, what is needed is the political will to stand up to the etnocentrist and industrial lobbies and enforce the laws currently in the books. You state that "They want Universities to turn off students by asking certain people (aka Latinos) for proof of citizenship"... Heh,heh,heh,heh.. your racist streak is showing... The laws don't differentiate on race or origin, but on legal status. Or do you think that Irish illegals get a pass?
When you ask: "What's next from these people? Will Children of perceived illegal immigrants have to drink from different water fountains, or use different bathrooms, or attend different schools?" My reply is: If they are in their country, wouldn't that be a different place?
I agree, we need to bring the military home to defend the border. Sending illegals packing will definitely impact those detrimental figures as even the adults are in the third to sixt grade level.
The only officials to mention the Minutemen as "nativist extremist groups or hate groups" hae been Vicente Fox, who saw his twenty billion dollar currency income threatened (in adition to being an idiotic blabermouth), and "The Decider" George Bush. We all know the level of his critical thinking.
In my experience, the vast majority of Minutemen stand for the paramount value of respecting and obeying the law. Illegals, by virtue of their own actions, are not "law abiding". They just try to keep a low profile to avoid being "pinched".
Real Latino said....
ReplyDeleteLegal "Hispanic" (wink-wink):
I am pretty sure that 6 months of polls and studies, almost all with multiple options for the voters to choose from definitely outweighs the 1 poll that you were referencing to which by the way does not give options. But I guess you have to do what you have to do to carry on the spoken word of your idols and get your Lou Dobbs & Kris Kobach signed hood. However, "Pochito" let's not try and compare a guy who's ready to wear his hood a holy figure on a crusade.
Lou Dobbs changed his fight for the working man to one against the latinos a long time ago when he made a desperate attempt at ratings by jumping on every anti-immigrant bandwagon that rides across this country. Unfortunately, for him, 144 of them are nativist extremist groups that have a different agenda on their mind: NO BROWN PEOPLE, NO CULTURAL DIVERSITY.
In almost all of his recent "public forums/townhall meetings" not 1 single person has been there, on stage, to represent the side of immigrants. In fact, the last one was so bad, that a guy from the Colorado Hispanic Chamber of Commerce stood up and interrupted the show to challenge the false information being spilled on his show. (ex: 7,000 cases of Leprosy in the last 3 years) However to know surprise Lou had to cut to a commercial, find out what the guy was going to ask, and then asked Kris Kobach who was also in the crowd, not on stage, to stand up and argue his point.
You mention Working men and women in this country, who are most definitely being attacked, but not by immigrants, by corporations and the lobbyists that they pay. Likewise, the ethnocentrists are the state& national elected officials (most republican), and those that support their campaigns, that want to pass the blame on immigrants instead of their golf buddies.
Where's the Minutemen pressure on Republican Elected Officials to upset their corporate buddies? Ahh there is none where it counts because with the current Republican immigration policy, both Minutemen and their party win! Heres how:
Minutemen organizations make money and won't get to see brown people unless it's people like yourself that will join them for taco tuesday or Cinco de Mayo at the local tavern; but under one condition: No Spanish and Pronounce your name different. Meanwhile, Republicans don't upset their Corporate friends AND earn the wedge vote of fools like you!
Since you claim to be so concerned about working men and women in this country, it's funny that the same conservative officials that you and Lou Dobbs support because of immigration are the same ones that are trying to union-bust all around the country, so that our working men and women make next to nothing, their health care is slashed, and the pensions of retirees are out the window. Those of us that have lived in Latin America and communicated with the community know that illegal immigrants don't come here with the aspirations of working for below minimum wage salaries, in slave like conditions in order take over the country and the national language. They come here because of the stories of a beautiful land and opportunity for their families. They come here because of the fantasy like messages passed from their families while thinking that they are going to make the very wages that our working men and women make; but are slapped with reality when they get here.
So since, you are so worried about the future of our hard-working men and women, and you know that we can't and won't just deport 12 million people, how about we start using our brains and get them on progress towards citizenship, make them pay the $5,000US per person (which would be a major part of their annual income), allow them to get educated through opportunities like the DREAM Act, and give them the opportunity to organize under these greedy corporations so that they can make a living wage and receive 1st class health benefits like the rest of us. Also expedite the process exponentially if they join the military for 10 years? While we are doing that we can get our asses out of Iraq and use that money to fund protection of our borders (PLURAL because FOX News and Lou Dobbs probably has you forgetting that the real terrorists came from and a lot of the drug traffic is coming from the northern border), to fund our education and also our health care. There was enough there to do all three 3 times over until the year 2000 came.
But then again I mention legit pieces of legislation that your GOP idols and Minutemen want passed and MY racist streak is the one showing? The laws do indeed state legal status but to assume that those that will enforce them do not or will not differentiate on race or origin alone is like saying that Santa Claus is real and from America: It's wishful thinking but just not factual within the real world.
Studies show that prejudice in this world does exist, ever been to an airport, and although I would love and unlike you do work to see none in the future, I am pretty sure that people with funny names like for example Jimenez or Al-Amir will get the bad end of that deal by being checked a lot more than a Halloway, Browne, or O'Reilly. With regards to the literacy statistic, the 225,000 people are American Citizens/ Permanent Residents; not illegal immigrants as you would love to tell yourself.
With regards to the extremist view of some of these groups, elected officials, and followers like yourself, I asked these questions:
"What's next from these people? Will Children of perceived illegal immigrants have to drink from different water fountains, or use different bathrooms, or attend different schools?"
Your reply was: "If they are in their country, wouldn't that be a different place?"
Being that many if not most children of "perceived illegal immigrants" are either born or raised their whole life here, I would call "Their country" the same as My country, The United States of America.
Just because 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants proudly hang both the flag of their ancestors doesn't mean that their love for the USA isn't that of yours and mine. You walk through streets of New York, Boston and Chicago on any given day or attend Jewish, Greek, Irish etc festivals and you will see just as many flags of other countries and here just as much "foreign" language spoken as those within Latino Communities. But it is Spanish that is used to fill the message of a potential takeover in national language.
Versions of our National Anthem are on file within the Congressional archives and have so beautifully blessd the streets of our communities and the halls of the White House in just about every language in this world, on more than one occaision; but of course Fox News and your favorite anchors chose the Spanish version for their fearmongering messages.
For the last 3 years, I have watched millions of people march the streets of our country holding American Flags and MANY different national flags; but of course it was the Mexican flag that was chosen for your "Fair and Balanced" fearmongering message.
But yet you call ME the misinformed racist who is blurring the message? No, the message is really clear for those that read the lines of the legislation that your favorite elected officials and Minutemen lobbyist provide state capitols with.
The real message of progress and intelligence is nowhere near the one that you spill.
right on the money Real Latino. Its great to see organizations, people and the Star coming out in support of the Latino community.
ReplyDeleteLegal Hispanic Said:
ReplyDeleteHA,ha,ha,ha,ha... Ay "Real Latino"... Me das pena ajena... As I pointed out, when given extreme options of massive round-ups or massive amnesty, Americans will lean towards tolerance even if it grinds against ethics. The polls you mentioned only gave these two options but left out the real option of attrition through enforcement.
Here's a shocker for a flock mentality hack like you, The Minutemen and other organizations like "You don't speak for me" not only have Hispanics in their membership, but in the case of YDSFM the leadership is Hispanic. For no Cultural Diversity, let me steer you to your intellectual brethren at MECHA and their etnic cleansing plan for the "Nacion de Aztlan" and the "Mexica" organization which makes the anachronistic KKK seem like a bunch of milquetoasts.
Unlike you, I don't see every Lou Dobbs show.
Darling, look at the party platforms. With the exception of the "God, Guns & Gays" issues. both parties seem to be cojoined twins. The gilded elites are the ones pulling the strings and tetnocentrist organizations like COHO are all to glad to earn their grant money by promoting abundant, cheap, compliant and illegal alien labor. Unions have moved into the illegal alien love in led by SEIU's leadership (President) which at one time was an illegal alien advocate and may have seen the Union as a likely "trojan Horse" to advance his personal agenda by recruiting illegal alien laborers and giving them a politica voice. The AFL=CIO has distanced itself from the Amnesty debate as they understand the noxious effect of an amnesty upon their membership.
The $5,000.00 bribe that Chappaquidick Ted would have illegals pay to regularize their status is a joke. According to research by Robert Rector, their per-capita short cost easily renders that bribe as the chump-change it is.
Does race matter if you are in the commision of a continuous criminal enterprise? If a police officer asks me about my status and were to require me to produce identity documents, I would not be offended as I do look and sound like a foreigner. There is a small price to pay in the two or three minutes wasted while his curiosity is satisfied, but such would be a light cost to pay to avert another death by a drunk illegal alien driver. Now, if we were to fine and incarcerate employers, landlords and employees of organizatiions who aid and abett illegal aliens to arrive or remain in the country, we could easily make much more money since each employer would be liable to the tune of $5,000.00 per illegal alien employee as would every landlord and tax-exempt organization (like those in COHO).
Well, when I travelled to Sout America, I used to get my baggage searched by Customs on a regular basis. Since I had no contraband, I just didn't pack my stuff very neatly on the return leg. Was it "profiling"? Probably. Was I offended by it? Absolutely not. You stated: "With regards to the literacy statistic, the 225,000 people are American Citizens/ Permanent Residents"; It would seem that you should contact the local school board. Naturalized citizens should be able to understand English to take the citizenship test. I believe that is what the law states; doesn't it?
As to your observation on the policy of extending citizenship privileges to the children of illegal aliens, I believe that the intent of the framers of the XIV ammendment was to protect the citizenship of freedmen stated in the XIII ammendment. The Supreme Court decision on which this policy hangs is one of a child of Chinese immigrants who were bought as slaves in China and shipped, with no intent of their own or input on their destination, to the US. That stands in stark contrast with the conscious and volntary act of the illegal alien. If you ask the Mexican Consul, he'll tell you that the US-born children of Illegal aliens from his country are Mexican Citizens, and I would have to be in agreement with the 30th article of the Mexican Constitution.
The current tsunami of immigration from Latin America refuses to be assimilated. Their native countries consulates labor arduously to nurture theri connection to their homelands in order to stimulate cash remittances and to ensure that their foreign agenda is articulated through their citizens who are able to vote.
The only flag that waves over my stoop has 50 stars. You may not ba able to help wher you are born, but you are able to decide who you are and where your loyalties lie.
The U.S. Anthem should be sung in the official language of the country. In Mexico, singing the Mexican anthem in English will get you some jail time as messi around with patriotic symbols is not taken lightly. Bor should it be.
The Mexicans, make up the majority of the illegal aliens from Latin America who make up the bulk of illegal aliens. The most active promoters and organizers of the marches were the Spanish language media who recognized that if the Sensebrenner bill passed, their investments would wither in the absence of an audience.
I've yet to call yoou anything other than ignorant and bigotted. Here's a shocker for you: I voted for Carter, Clinton, Gore and Kerry(Bonzo would be a genius next to "Curious George"). My vote goes to the issue and leaders, it won't goose-step to any party like the NCLR flunkies would have us do.
What is sad is to see large and powerful organizations engaging in slander and calumny against a senior citizen who has no former political experience. Keeping Frances Semler off the Commision does not support the Latino Community, unless the bilingual positions planed are being eyed to be used as ethnic cronyism for Hispanic activists.