I know a recent comment from Missouri House Speaker Rod Jetton (R) is supposed to engender some kind populist sentiment and make him seem not so bigoted when it comes to other anti-immigrant proposals being considred in the State House . . . And, sadly, I have to admit it works . . . I'm not made of stone and I'm swayed by any politico who doesn't (completely) base his anti-immigrant stance on Supremacy.
Check it:
Jetton proposes trading "lazy Missourians for hard working Mexicans" kind of funny and acknowledges but a bit of the contributions that illegal immigrants have made to the economy. House Speaker Rod Jetton on Friday stood behind his offer to trade "lazy Missourians" for hardworking Mexican citizens.True enough and if a Caucasian, Republican, Missouri politico says it then it probably has even more credence than the ranting from my mom's basement . . . And while it may be nothing more than a PR move, there's still a certain truth in the statement (and supporting financial data) . . . Even better, it proves that speaking with this kind of hyperbole on either side of the issue is much more interesting than a rational conversation about Comprehensive Immigration Reform. Natch.
Jetton, a Republican from Marble Hill, first made the suggestion earlier this month at a Republican Party gathering in Springfield. He repeated it Thursday when asked about it at The Associated Press and Missouri Press Association Day at the Capitol.
"I think there are some lazy Missourians in this state who really don't want to work, and I think there's a lot of hardworking Mexicans who would love to come up here and make a little money to support their families," he said.
Why you do DESERVE comprehensive immigration reform?
ReplyDeleteWhy should we forgive illegality? Especially when there are Mexicans in Mexico that would be willing to immigrate legally?
The sad fact is that you want it both ways: Citizenship with all it's benefits, plus the ability to self-segregate and not learn english.
One or the other guys, one or the other.
what do we do with all the lazy mexicans and tony though.
ReplyDeleteThe truth of the matter is that there are jobs some "lazy Missourian & Kansans" don't want. How many of you Minutemen are willing to cut the ass out of a cow, or pull the liver out of a pig. Apparently not many, in the real world working at Wal-mart for lower pay than cutting the ass out of a cow, means someone doesn't want to cut the ass out of a cow.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting how the U.S. was the Worlds leading self sustaining economic power before NAFTA was signed and the wave of "help" came pouring over the border.
ReplyDeleteThe fact is illegal immigration has bled us financially not helped us.
Prove otherwise.
Humm, there's the Reagan Amnesty of millions of Mexican illegals that came far before NAFTA.
ReplyDeleteSorry to tear apart your theory with just a bit of history. Next time, look a little bit do a little research.
Pros and cons
ReplyDeleteIllegal immigrants lower costs/They also lower wages
Immigrants put billions of dollars into social security they'll never collect along with state and local sales taxes/they cost billions in other social services from small municipalities.
Illegal immigrants generally raise property values in the formerly blighted areas they inhabit/Among the millions of non-violent illegal immigrants there are a few who are criminals and this has been exploited by their opponents.
The truth is that the United States needs the illegal immigrants but also needs to find a better way to make residency requirements for the U.S. easier and safer for the vast majority of peaceful and productive illegal immigrants that are already here.
Tony's right, there's no simple solution just a lot name calling. Discussing the issue rationally is boring as I think I've just proven. lol.
Agree 100 percent, Tony. I also want more hard-working Mexicans here -- just like Alianiss Morales.
ReplyDeleteAnd who, you ask, is Alianiss Morales? She's the woman who hit a school bus in Minnesota earlier this week and killed four children.
"Alianiss" is from Mexico. She was here illegally. She didn't have a valid driver's license at the time of the accident. In fact, she doesn't appear to have a valid driver's license from ANY state.
But you know what? We should give her a break. She was on her way to work when she ended the lives of those four children. She was helping contribute to the economy. Some other Minnesotan was probably too lazy to take a job like that.
Yessiree, if it's anything this country needs, it's more illegal aliens. Who needs a bunch of whiny kids when you've got law-breaking Mexicans to take their place in the workforce?
If you had your own blog maybe someone would care.
ReplyDeleteI would, Easy, but I'm too lazy.
ReplyDelete(And that line was too easy.)
Make a choice why do you assume that illegal immigrants haven't made more than one attempt to come here legally? Do you know anything about applying for a visa in Mexico? Have you worked at the Embassy? Have you gone with anyone to do that? I didn't think so.
ReplyDeleteI have and can tell you that most illegal immigrants have applied for a visa more than once and got tired of wasting literally thousands of dollars every time. That's multiple months salary. Eventually the choice becomes create a better life for your kids or continue watching the system screw you because of your skin color and social class.
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ReplyDeleteI wish that every big mouth acting like they know something about immigration would actually go experience it for themselves. I was the same way until I actually went to Mexico and sat behind the window and stamped deny, deny , deny for thousands of people that would have taken pride in being part of the USA.
Here's a wreck from last night. Maybe if we get more uninsured drivers and more undocumented people in Missouri, we can look forward to more accidents like this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/HP68/AccidentDetailsAction?ACC_RPT_NUM=A039689A
How is that information related to Kansas City.
ReplyDeleteTucson Citizen
ReplyDeleteSonoran officials slam sanctions law in Tucson visit
SHERYL KORNMAN
Published: 01.16.2008
A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson on Tuesday to say Arizona's new employer sanctions law will have a devastating effect on the Mexican state.
At a news conference, the legislators said Sonora - Arizona's southern neighbor, made up of mostly small towns - cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools it will face as illegal Mexican workers here return to their hometowns without jobs or money.
The law, which took effect Jan.1, punishes employers who knowingly hire individuals who don't have valid legal documents to work in the United States. Penalties include suspension or loss of a business license.
Its intent is to eliminate or curtail the top draw for immigrants to this country - jobs.
The Mexican delegation, members of Sonora's 58th Legislature, belong to the National Action Party (PAN), the party of Mexico's president, Felipe Calderón.
They spoke at the offices of Project PPEP, a nonprofit that provides job retraining for farmworkers and other programs.
The lawmakers were to travel to Phoenix for a Wednesday breakfast meeting with Hispanic legislators.
They want to tell them how the law will affect Mexican families on both sides of the border.
"How can they pass a law like this?" asked Mexican Rep. Leticia Amparano Gamez, who represents Nogales.
"There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona," she said in Spanish.
"Mexico is not prepared for this, for the tremendous problems" it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and sending money to their families return to hometowns in Sonora without jobs, she said.
"We are one family, socially and economically," she said of the people of Sonora and Arizona.
Amparano said the Mexican legislators are already asking the federal government of Mexico for help for Sonora.
Rep. Florencio Diaz Armenta, coordinator of the delegation, represents San Luis, south of Yuma, one of Arizona's agricultural hubs, which employs some 28,000 legal Mexican workers.
"What do we do with the repatriated?" he asked. "As Mexicans, we are worried. They are Mexicans but they are also people - fathers and mothers and young people with jobs" who won't have work in Sonora."
He said the Arizona law will lead to "disintegration of the family," as one "legal" Mexican parent remains in Arizona and the other returns to Mexico.
Rep. Francisco Garcia Gámez, a legislator from Cananea and that city's former mayor, said the lack of mining jobs there has driven many Mexicans to Arizona to find work. He said they depend on jobs in Arizona to feed their families on both sides of the border.
Gov. Janet Napolitano, in her State of the State speech Monday, said the new law needs some modifications, including a better definition of what constitutes a complaint.
Barrett Marson, director of communications for the Arizona House of Representatives, said Speaker Jim Weiers, R-Phoenix, "has some concerns about how the law will be administered and applied."
He said the speaker sought testimony from the business community last fall "to get ideas about how to make following the law easier. In the end, that's what he wants - compliance, but make it as easy as possible to do."
Marson said Weiers is "waiting for the governor to come out with her idea of what she wants to do" before he makes his own recommendations.