ACLU Argues Against Kris Kobach

The ACLU claims that they've "EXPOSED" the Kansas politico . . . Which is a bit of a clickbait tease but still worth a peek:

"At trial, Kobach was only able to identify 18 noncitizens — out of 1.8 million voters —who have successfully registered to vote over a nearly 20-year period. Only five of them actually cast a ballot. Kobach was not able to show that these 18 instances constituted intentional cases of fraud, rather than mistakes stemming from clerical errors."

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Kobach Exposed at Trial

The federal trial over a law that disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters in Kansas is expected to end tomorrow. For the past two weeks, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach has attempted to defend not just his signature legislation, which requires people to show documentary proof of citizenship such as a birth certificate or passport when registering to vote, but to support his claim of rampant voter fraud.He failed spectacularly on both scores.

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  1. Bullshit

    A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

    "We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

    More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

    Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

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  2. INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Twelve employees of a Democrat-linked group focused on mobilizing black voters in Indiana are accused of submitting fake or fraudulent voter registration applications ahead of last year’s general election in order to meet quotas, according to charging documents filed Friday.

    Prosecutors allege that 11 temporary workers employed by the Indiana Voter Registration Project created and submitted an unknown number of falsified applications. According to a probable cause affidavit, a supervisor for those canvassers, Holiday Burke, was also charged, as was the group.

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  3. Don't believe the Progressive bullshit----Voter Fraud is pervasive.

    Here in Minnesota, a case is pending in our Supreme Court that challenges same day registration and various actions by our Democratic Secretary of State that have enabled illegal voting. I haven’t yet had time to evaluate the plaintiffs’ legal arguments, but the factual allegations are explosive:

    A new voter fraud case before the Minnesota Supreme Court claims 1,366 ineligible felons have cast at least 1,670 fraudulent votes in recent statewide elections, possibly tipping the outcome of close contests, including the 2008 U.S. Senate race.

    The lawyers representing plaintiffs in the case have done a great deal of digging, and have come up with names, dates and places–illegal votes that likely swung Minnesota elections toward Democratic candidates. The illegal votes that plaintiffs have been able to document are only a small fraction of the actual total:

    Court papers demonstrate how the incomplete list of ineligible voters provided to local election officials routinely allows felons, wards of the state, immigrants [who are not citizens] and other ineligible persons to register and vote.


    “The 1,366 identified felons who have been permitted to vote is believed to be only a fraction of the true total,” the 110 page court petition filed by MVA and former Rep. Kirk Stensrud states. “Cooperation from the Secretary of State would have allowed for a more complete accounting of the number of ineligible persons who have been permitted to vote.”

    Directly relevant to the election of Franken:

    MVA found 941 ineligible felons who were allowed to vote in 2008 alone, exceeding the 312 vote margin separating DFL candidate Al Franken and GOP Sen. Norm Coleman after a grueling recount.

    Felons overwhelmingly vote Democrat (which is why Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe is trying to get them on the voter rolls to help elect Hillary), so there is almost no doubt that we can thank illegal votes for Obamacare getting passed into law.

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  4. From the PEW Report-

    Inaccurate, Costly, and Inefficient
    Evidence That America’s Voter Registration System
    Needs an Upgrade
    Our democratic process requires an
    effective system for maintaining accurate
    voter registration information. Voter
    registration lists are used to assign
    precincts, send sample ballots, provide
    polling place information, identify
    and verify voters at polling places, and
    determine how resources, such as paper
    ballots and voting machines, are deployed
    on Election Day. However, these systems
    are plagued with errors and inefficiencies
    that waste taxpayer dollars, undermine
    voter confidence, and fuel partisan
    disputes over the integrity of our elections.
    Voter registration in the United States
    largely reflects its 19th-century origins
    and has not kept pace with advancing
    technology and a mobile society. States’
    systems must be brought into the 21st
    century to be more accurate, cost-effective,
    and efficient.
    Research commissioned by the Pew Center
    on the States highlights the extent of the
    challenge:1
    n Approximately 24 million—one of
    every eight—voter registrations in the
    United States are no longer valid or
    are significantly inaccurate.
    n More than 1.8 million deceased
    individuals are listed as voters.
    n Approximately 2.75 million people
    have registrations in more than one state.

    PAPER BALLOTS AND IDENTIFICATIONS ARE NEEDED!!!!!!

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  5. Ugh, no. With this massive defeat of Kobach, the myth of voter fraud has been completely debunked. Only the deep state kopoks like chuck refuse to believe it. Facts are facts and there is no voter fraud except for the millions of fake Russian votes who voted for Trump in Pennsylvania. That is completely true by the way.

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  6. @7:22, & 7:26, & 7:28AM-way way too long. Did not bother reading.

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    1. Yes, we know you struggle.

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  7. ^^Yes, struggle with garbage posts posted by nuts and fruits who argue deep-state theories in massive missives. Yes I do struggle with that.

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  8. 7:22: I don't condone ad hominem attacks, but you should inform your readers that George Mason University is Koch-funded (among others) and hardly objective.

    In other words, George Mason University compiles and massages facts (and alternative facts) to arrive at a predetermined conclusion.

    And, as the old saying goes, if the facts do not support the conclusion, they must be ignored.

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  9. "Kobach Exposed at Trial"

    Ewwww. He's a little too blimp-like to be exposed.

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  10. ^^^Yes, he is quite disgusting. Much like his hero, the big orange dotard he tries so desperately to emulate.

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  11. 8:07, you employ a leap of logic to reach an untenable conclusion. Using the same reasoning, every study done or sponsored by the ACLU, including anything they are using at the trial, can't be true just because if the source. You are right to be suspicious of any study you think may be tainted by bias (as I am of pretty much everything a government agency puts out), but merely declaring the study wrong because you suspect that is not persuasive.

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  12. Okay, @ 9:32, let's use logic - Kobach is involved, Kobach is an unscrupulous, ambition-driven scoundrel, ergo - the "study" is false!
    "quod est demonstrandum"

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  13. Kobach is a fraud and his scheme to limit voting for minorities and the poor in the state of Kansas has been a scam.
    After he loses the trial he and the Republicans and Fox News will call this a victory and will double down on their effort to limit voting.

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  14. 9:32: I don't think 8:07 declared anything wrong--just possibly tainted. 7:22 was at least honest in that he/she, unlike many of the posters here, cited a source. It's just that the source is biased.

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  15. He's getting fat.

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  16. He must buy his suits from Goodyear.

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  17. If the ACLU is involved Kobach must be right.

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  18. ^^^^Right wing, anyway, ad hominem boy.

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  19. why won’t california release their voter rolls?

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  20. ^^^^Ummm. Privacy, maybe?

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  21. if it's on Tonys KC it must be true right?

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