Thursday, July 27, 2017

KANSAS CITY CRITICAL COACH'S FLOOD QUESTION: CROWDFUND OR CRITICIZE???



Tonight we contemplate the merits of Kansas City human interest story here @ TKC . . .

Should locals help the Coach's owner after he admittedly made a mistake by rushing to a flooded building OR are more hard-nosed locals correct in their criticism???

Here @ TKC . . . We encourage our blog community to lean toward forgiveness and help but it's important to take a glimpse at both sides of the issue . . .

Checkit:

'Embarrassed and thankful'- Owners of Coach's Bar recount 4+ hours trapped in flooded restaurant

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Coach's Bar & Grill owners Brian Darby and Chrissy Carle reached dry land about four hours after water poured into the restaurant, trapping them inside in the ceiling. The Kansas City, Mo., Water Rescue Team brought out boats to reach them, used a ladder to climb onto the roof, and then a saw to cut their way to them.



Check this Go Fund Me page and the plea for support :

"My friend, neighbor, and fellow bar owner Brian Darby has had a very rough time as of late. His father and business partner was killed, and his murder remains unsolved. Now, their business, Coach's Bar & Grill on 103rd between State Line and Wornall has been devastated by the flooding.

Let's do what we can to help out this Kansas City native, and local small business owner in this time of need. Anything you can contribute to help him rebuild his business would be greatly appreciated."

You decide . . .

26 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Don't blame him. Blame KCMO for creating this crisis by not fixing the sewers.

Anonymous said...

I'm brown bagging it this weekend. Maybe Kansas Missouri Mayor Sly James could do a song and dance like he does for the voters?

Free KC said...

He endangered other people's lives by pulling this stunt. He is not a hero. Maybe he does need help but it's because of his own bad decisions.

Super Dave said...

Till you walked in the mans shoes it's hard to say was he wrong or not. Those who don't own a business probably can't even relate to the two owners feelings and thoughts. The Darby's had a lot of friends who I am sure feel like they want to give a helping hand and by all means they should be allowed to if they want. Myself I'd move the heck away from that location.

Give credit where credit is due the two owners didn't beat around the bush in admitting they may have not made the best move in entering that bar this morning. Nobody died and that to me is what matters the most.

Anonymous said...

INSURANCE

Silverback Sly said...

Why is Alonzo so butthurt when people call him out?

Tracy Thomas said...

Fine to help him--but only on higher ground. It's going to keep flooding there. Do not rebuild on that site. Let the landlord take any insurance on the building and tear it down. Relocate those tenants elsewhere.

I think it's crazy to provide rescue services to that location ever again. Post it as: enter at your own risk--and expense.

I agree with Superdave, and stated earlier, the two were quick to admit their mistakes. They were humble. they were candid. And perhaps it will sink in with others, that in emergencies, walk away and do not risk your lives to save "property".

And yes, he is grieving, and yes, it was a sentimental location for him and his Dad. But the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again, expecting a different outcome. So move on. And your friends and customers will follow you. And some may contribute to a GoFundMe.

Even JJ's relocated after the gas explosion and fire. Take a lesson there. The Paco Shrimp tastes just as good in the new location. And Jimmy Frantze is just aswelcoming and just as good at running his bar and restaurant. Perhaps the two should talk, because Jimmy has BeenThere,Done That, only he actually lost an employee.

Anonymous said...

BLAME
Blame those trapped? Please don't go there. If your house or business was in the path of rising water and you believed there was time to save some things by moving them higher or out of the way, you would likely do it too. Now, if the rescue crews were put in serious danger (I don't believe they were) then I think the pair could have slept on the roof all night and survived just fine.

CONTRIBUTE
As always, people are free to donate their money to whoever they want. The owner sounded like he's not going to return to that spot.

INSURANCE
A business owner next door to Coach's said he didn't have flood insurance because he can't get it, or it's too expensive to justify. I would assume that most of the others along that north side of 103rd are in the same boat (pun intended).

INFRASTRUCTURE
The real question that this flooding raises is, "why can't changes be made to prevent this from happening so often?" This same stretch of 103rd between State Line and Wornall has been flooded so many times I've lost count.

Anonymous said...

Place has been a shit hole for 20 years. Lot of great times happened , deals made. Ton's of pot and cocaine traveled thru there, the local car salesmen were great ,great customers. Sad to see it go but it has been flooded and rebuilt a bunch. Get the niggers out of Fuzzy's and we can start over.

Reason KC said...

I feel sorry for the guy but I'm not going to help him rebuild on a flood plain.

Anonymous said...

...and we talk about the city having jacked up priorities? How about crowd funding a health clinic or the homeless....

Anonymous said...

Tracy, you are so beautiful and sexy.

Anonymous said...

God bless the emergency rescue personnel that assisted them, but isn't that part of their job? Can you imagine how many cops, firefighters, etc. risk their lives everyday going to dangerous scenes that could have been avoided if the citizen hadn't made a poor decision? Cops, firefighters and the like deserve our respect and gratitude for sure, but I don't think blame can be laid on the Darbys, especially in this instance.

Anonymous said...

They need to find a new location or find a pre existing bar for sale. So definitely life is all about change and moving forward. Yes it's sad regards to the loss of Mike Darby & then the flood to ruin the business to a total loss.
Most definitely thoughts and prayers for this family.

Grant said...

Crowd funding for a grand reopening in Overland Park?

Anonymous said...

Prayers for the family and those who rescued the guys ! Screw opening at that location ever again . Focus on the O.P. location Fuck the KC MO take care of yourself and your family from now on . Peace and out !

Anonymous said...

Surely they can find a spot along there somewhere probably tucked in between a tattoo shop and a vaping store. Plenty of shithole spots out there ripe for the Pickin. Life Goes On. As for a GoFundMe lolol go fund these nuts. I think you guys will make out fine

Anonymous said...

any relation to Brandon Darby at Brietbart

Flipper said...

reopen on stilts with extra tall bar stools.

Anonymous said...

This is fourth time in my memory that this place has flooded. Time to move. There should just be a building so close to Indian Creek. They have another location in Overland Park. I would hate to see it go, but enough is enough.

Anonymous said...

None of these businesses have or are able to buy flood insurance. To be eligible for Federal Flood Insurance you have to have the bottom of the building above the 50 year flood line. That means to rebuild there they need to put the building on stilts or a berm.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm....Rain + the Army Corps of Engineers = Guaranteed Disaster. Those numpties couldn't engineer a dog house out of harm's way. The business owners SHOULD BE SUING the Corp, as the new levy put in 4 years ago or so was supposed to prevent this from happening. We are only talking about 7 inches of rain here in an evening. A lot, yes, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO CAUSE PROBLEMS UNLESS IT BACKED UP AT THE LEVY!!! Start prosecuting who is responsible....not the business owners!!

Tracy Thomas said...

Exactly, 7:29. Factual.

This property was probably ALWAYS in violation, and should never have been developed. Years ago, the original property owner may have exerted political pressure, to get thru city codes etc.

I live in a neighborhood in Johnson County that is half Lenexa, half Shawnee. One of our 136 lots had not been permitted and built--due to drainage concerns by the Planning Departments of both cities--for several years in 1979. But someone, a few years later, SOMEONE PUSHED SOMEONE POLITICALLY. And the greedy developer got to build one final lot. It was a huge mistake. A few years ago during a huge rain, the manhole covers blew off 20 feet into the air!

But by this time, the cities had figured out how to generate stormwater relief taxation. (Similar to the 123GOBond issue KCMO just rammed through.) Since they now had huge buckets of OPM/Other People's Money to spend, rather than just condemn/buy that housefor $200k or so, tear it down and put in the proper sized pipe, they spent half a million jiggering another solution. We still have no confidence that there won't be successive flooding issues and flying manhole covers in our future.

The building where Coach's WAS should not be allowed to be rebuilt. The City needs to say NO for a change. Follow the money. Watch the contributions to re-election campaigns.

Anonymous said...

I'm with Flipper, put that bitch on stilts, or implode it.

Anonymous said...

You have locations that have been flooded multiple times and these business geniuses think they are going follow the same path as others and the outcome will be any different? So getting into your wallet buys you free admission to th next flood? Fuck that. Time for someone to get a clue.

Anonymous said...

Don't blame KCMO. Most of that water runs out of Johnson county.
Build a big dam at St line and create Lake Lenexa!