Friday, November 04, 2016

KANSAS CITY GUN EXPERT: BIKER DUDE CONFRONTS SERIOUS CHARGES AFTER FLASHING GUN DURING HEATED DISPUTE IN TRADER JOE'S PARKING LOT!!!



Here's a bit of Friday fair warning for all of our blog community as we head toward the weekend.

Checkit . . .

A GREAT MANY THANKS TO A FEW KANSAS CITY GUN EXPERTS WARNING CCW ENTHUSIASTS ABOUT THE DANGER OF FLASHING A GUN DURING A SHOUTING MATCH!!!

Missouri CCW enjoy a great deal of freedom but that comes with more responsibility.

Here's the word:

"TKC, just wanted to inform your blog that the guy in the Twitter video pulling a gun is in for a world of trouble. You should know that I'm CWW and a staunch supporter of the 2nd Ammendment but what we saw from that video is simply a dangerous and possibly illegal display. Let me quote one of my favorite websites that explains this much better than I can. Here it is: "Once you pull your gun, you have—in effect—threatened to use deadly force. If you are not facing a deadly threat, you are committing a crime."

"I teach a CCW class in KCMO and here is the passage of the newly revised gun law that I make my students aware of: Weapons offenses - Missouri Revised Statutes Section 571.030.1 Article 4 states that it's unlawful if a gun owner "Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner" What this means is simple: Flashing a gun is not an acceptable deterrent to a threat. You only produce your weapon if you are going to fire it. 

"I'm not taking sides in this argument, I'm just showing you what the law says and what most CCW instructors tell their students. For the sake of everyone involved, I'm glad no one was hurt and I would advise everyone to get their training before carrying a gun even if it is no longer required by Missouri."

Like it or not, this TKC reader makes a crystal clear argument backed up by Missouri law and gun owner resources as this altercation offers a preview of more gun fighting in the future.

You decide . . .

44 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Missouri has set the stage for a lot of horrible mistakes.

This man should have been arrested at the scene in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Its a fucking city charge misdemeanor, he will get a Summons, lawyer up, plead it out and pay a fine, end of story, this is a nothing story give up Tony, call Alonzo, some white people looked at him funny

KC Trumper said...

it's a matter of perception. The woman behind the wheel was clearly becoming unhinged and could have killed them with her car. I think the guy handled himself with a great deal of reserve because he did not fire his weapon. I'm sure that no charges will be filed because he did the right thing to protect himself without firing a shot. We need more people willing to stand up for their rights in KCMO if we are going to keep our city safe.

Anonymous said...

@6:32 - Actually, it's a felony.

Anonymous said...

of course a gun instructor wants people to take his class. Missouri has effectively put them out of business.

You can learn everything you need to know off the Internet. No fee required!

I'm moving to parkville said...

And Ward Parkway used to be such a nice place.

Anonymous said...

Whites are very angry. They must know that Trump is going to lose.

Anonymous said...

First test of the new Stand Your Ground?

@6:35, that's one of the problems with the gun laws now. The city doesn't have to prosecute that charge. They can use some sketchy city ordinance like they always do.

This guy will probably pay for the thousands the city has allowed to plea out to lessor charges.

Anonymous said...

Totally true. You can only pull a gun legally if its a situation a reasonable person would define as a life or death threat. Seeing that white people are very fragile & scared of everything, I imagine a jury of his peers may find a seated woman yelling at him to be very scary.

He is actually lucky he wasn't killed at the scene. He plays that scenario with a few other folks & they are cleaning his brains off of Trader Joes.

Anonymous said...

That's why Jan. 1, 2017 - the start if Open Carry, Open Season - will be such a game changer for the race war that's clearly already in progress against human whites. We'll be able to openly carry and it will be such a huge deterrent to the subhuman negro vermin that it will render them as skittish as cockroaches exposed to light. There won't be any need for this law.

Monkeys learn by repeated exposure to stimuli, you see. It's very simple. And what human wouldn't automatically feel threatened bby the mere sight of a negro?

Stay alert, stay alive, my brothers! We will prevail as we always have.

Anonymous said...

Let's put it this way: If you pull out a gun, it is a rational response for anybody ELSE who has a gun ... whether cop or crook ... to open fire on you. Because pulling a gun means you intend to kill, just like the law makes crystal clear.

If you pull your gun to threaten, frighten, repel, discourage or impress somebody, or to make you feel better about your small penis, you are an idiot. That's TV and movie bullshit. Real life doesn't work that way.

There will be a lot of bloody drama now that the ignoramus-infested states of Missouri and Kansas are making it possible for people with absolutely zero training, either in competent gun use or gun safety, to obtain firearms. They need not have ANY experience firing weapons. Hard to imagine ANYy state legislature being this irresponsible, but there you go.

It takes regular practice to use a gun effectively. Especially a handgun.

Even regularly practiced, experienced shooters, such as police and soldiers, regularly blow holes in objects and people they are not intending to shoot. That is because handguns ... pistols ... are the most difficult firearms to shoot accurately. And these are the weapons that are now being carried more and more on our streets.

Also, unlike TV and the movies, bullets often go completely through objects such as walls and humans, and cause further mayhem and destruction. Most of us in this part of the world live in houses with flimsy walls of sheetrock, lumber and siding. Even shotgun rounds have this problem, contrary to popular opinion.

Your next-door neighbors have guns? Unless you live in a house of brick or stone, with no windows, you should be very afraid.

All this is stuff you need to think about before you start carrying a gun.

Anonymous said...

This situation is exactly why cops get their panties in a bunch when you go to video tape them. That video is the drama queen's friend. So make sure you video the police and next time they pull out their weapons on a petty offense let's see how anxious the local libtards are for justice.

Protect CCW said...

This guy gives all gun owners a bad name. He needs training.

Anonymous said...

According to the referenced KSHB story the case in under investigation and there is nothing there to indicate anyone has been charged in the incident. So where are we getting that his guy is in a world of trouble. It could be that the driver might get charged given that she damn near put the male and his pardner in a ditch while driving and playing with her phone. If her driving put the male and female in fear of their lives or great bodily harm it is quite arguable that the actions were entirely reasonable as the male had no idea what condition the driver was in - only that she damn near just killed his ass with her car. This is the same situation you see when a police officer shoots someone who nearly hits them with a vehicle. Additionally just a few months ago there was a shoplifter shot by a CCW at Sunfresh (23rd and Sterling) in Independence where she handled her vehicle in a manner that presented a threat.

I don't give a shit who instructs what. They aren't a lawyer and saying you are not picking sides when you are picking sides doesn't earn a pass. There are plenty of circumstances, perspectives, states of mind, etc. that don't get presented in blog arguments and we have no way of interviewing all the parties or gathering all the facts. That is exactly why there are investigations.

Is there a reference to ANYTHING that says this guy has been charged with anything, in a world of anything, or is this just another example of possibly being wrong for the sake of trying to be the first one guessing right? The guys is not charged until he is charged - period.

Bob said...

If his gun was holstered at all times, he did not "pull his gun." Whether you wear the holster on your hip, on your side or in your hand, a holstered gun is not a pulled gun. It was a bad move, and he should know better, but not criminal.

Anonymous said...

This town is chock-a-block full of bully-boy blocky-boy roughy-toughy hard-charging biscuit-eaters like Tommy Toughnuts here.

I'd be pretty mad too if I had to bang the broad in that video I reckon.

Come here and give heed KC said...

^^^ Finally, somebody said it.

Unless she pays great heed. It probably was an overreaction that the guy regrets.

KCJd said...

Jackson County Prosecutor Jean Peters Baker should charge this man if she is serious about keeping the peace in Kansas City and keeping her word about working for public safety despite the Missouri legislature.

Anonymous said...

^^^ If he was a priest with a gun, that would be a better case for her.

Anonymous said...

8:00 The Sunfresh incident was closer to 8-10 years ago rather than a few months back Also ,yes she did shoplift but " tommy tuff nuts" with the ccw took it upon himself to play hero.Loss prevention wasn't trying to apprehend her much,if at all.they were done .matter of fact they were just writing down her tag # when CCW tuff nuts decided to play Tj hOOKER hero and jump on the hood of her car.he then decided he didn't like the ride ,as she was trying to shake him off of her car and so thats when he took it upon hIS own obviously well trained ass to shoot the lady shoplifter ,through the winshield.i think she had a few groceries and some assorted toiletries in her bag..please know wtf you are talking about before asting like an expert wittness on shit.this situation really turned out well.woman dies for shoplifting and trying to get away from maniac riding the hood of her car with his heater pointed at her,kids lose mother,and i don't think tuff nutts did a day in jail.i am sure that his chuck norris-wannabe ass lost his ccw though..keep it zipped dude.you sound like an asshole.

Lawful KC CCW said...

^^^^ +1

Anonymous said...

8:36 You ARE and ass hole for no other reason than calling folks names and castigating them for having an opinion that doesn't fit the TINY mind perspective you have of the world according to the blogging jackass.

The Sunfresh shooting was 2009 and whether you like it or not, dip shit, the REAL authorities decided that there was absolutely nothing that justified charging the shooter. The CCW did not loose his permit as there were no laws broken by him. Do your homework F.Lee Bailystien. It sounds like you are the billy boy jack off that is trying to play legal expert. If anyone was jack offs it was the mickey mouse hoser loss prevention, mall cop, store dickless tracy, toy cops that think running aruond in a parking lot shouting "Loss Prevention" has much more effect than the hot dog vendor at the stadium. Maybe you should separate your biased personal opinion from objectivity - if you have any.

Anonymous said...

I know damn well he lost his ccw .other than that everything i said ,you just repeated ,for whatever reason. now ,take a fucking hike,jackoff.

Anonymous said...

Give me a reference on that lost CCW Mr.full of shit. Who revoked his CCW? I guarantee you can't 'cause you are trying to blow smoke. You take a hike little boy. You don't tell me to do shit! Just because you hallucinate it does not make it fact. ANother fucking boy scout mall cop who doesn't know his ass from a lard bucket.

Anonymous said...

Come
January
Things'll be
Popping

Anonymous said...

9:54 You sound like one of the stupidest mother fuckers ive come across in a long ass time. You wanna call me, little boy LOL..Well i don't know how big they grow em at from whatever pit you're from but i can tell you this ,BITCH.I would not only kick the fuck outta your trashy ass ,I would humiliate you like the fucking little worm you are proving yourself to be...DO not fuck with me ,kid ,unless you are willing to back up your idle bullshit.I don't have to tell you a goddamned thing,clown boy,believe that ,but I will say this in hopes that it will shut your insecure ,butt-hurt face of yours; one thing ,mother fucker, I know the fucking weasel in question..good enough? no?I had a feeling not..Well.. what to do..what to do ,now..You tell me .Im not so much into internet tuff guy talk, ya fuckin pukle ..so ill say see ya ,now.BUT if that's still not good enough and you still wanna play jonny tuff nuts...Then its your call ,bitch boy???? what's up wid it?? where ya wanna take it ?? how far?? LET ME KNOW ,PUSSY ,CAUSE CHUMPS LIKE YOU ARE A GUILTY PLEASURE OF MINE.iLL HURT YA SON, AND ILL ENJOY DOING IT..Igot a job ,bitch ,so im hitting the rack.You wanna step up, Crawl out from under that slimey rock you live under,and show yourself for real ?? Let's make it happen,cum breath..All ya gotta so is say when and where.I promiose you that much..I'LL check back in tmro .see if you got real balls or just little basement balls..goodnight .sleep tight,sis

Anonymous said...

You are wrong about open carry ! You must have. CCW to open carry in Mo.

Anonymous said...

Daaaaaamn 954 sounds like time to put up or shut up.you do seriously come across as a know it all type.cant take anyone calling you wrong.jmo.i dont know what 1143 is trying to say??

Anonymous said...

Would have been funny to see the dude get the pistol taken from and his ass kicked.

Anonymous said...

11: 37. What time does mommy wake you up for that job at Price Chopper?

Anonymous said...

How do you stop a pack of blacks from raping a white woman?

Anonymous said...

Roll em a basketball

Anonymous said...

Clay chastain poops in a bag

Anonymous said...

There was no magazine in the gun, thus it is not ready to fire.

Case dismissed.

Anonymous said...

You know he didn't have one in the chamber?

Or maybe you were being farcical?

Anonymous said...

You also cannot see from her ObamaPhone video whether she was brandishing a weapon or had one visible in her center console area.

Anonymous said...

People, people, people, get yo shit together...there are no felonies in Jackson County, only misdemeanors, shit gets pled, no one goes to jail, ask Jean Penis-Baker. The charge is tampering or joyriding.

Nothing will happen, move on to the next round of drivel. Oh wait, Mary DIRTY Sanchez has to weigh in and maybe Yael the Fail, shit what about Jenee Ostrichpelt.

If Craig Glazer approves it and somehow Diana Kander is involved then it really matters.

On a lighter note Michelle Bogowith got engaged and it wasn't to Gary Pinkel, he has to close his driving school in Columbia.

Vote early, vote often, Jacob Turk needs your help to defeat the axis of evil.

Anonymous said...

Niggas on troost be like say what cracker

Anonymous said...

11:7 shut the fuck up you cunt breath little psycho. The guy already showed how you are talking out your ass. Now you set out to prove it.

Anonymous said...

11:37 that is!!!

Anonymous said...

I hope 11:37 was drunk when he wrote all that stuff. Otherwise he is a danger to society.

Anonymous said...

11:37 here...Drunk? No,I quit drinking twenty years ago.Don't do drug's either. Danger to society? HAHA Hardly..I don't have to prove anything to you couch potatos,and I really couldn't care any less about what some anonymous twinkie think's about me..LOL

Look here ,Tuff Nuts..I already proved myself,ya stupid mother fucker,you.

I know the jackoff .I know who he is.I have spoken with him on more than one occasion. I have nothing to do with loss prevention.Im just a guy from Indy,who happens to know what take's place here and I happen to know a lot of people,good and bad people.

He lost his CCW and to this day is not allowed to have one.Now it is YOUR task to go about proving me wrong!

Get crackin, loser..LOL i'LL be waiting, and remember this,as well.
If neede be,I will stomp a pot hole in your nasty little ,no-nothing ass.
Believe it-Learn IT- And accept it..Im done,Outti-Till you cancome back to this thread and PROVE ME WRONG.

Anonymous said...

Really? Give me his full name and I'll find out if anyone by that name has had a CCW revoked anywhere in the country. I'll be glad to help prove you right.

Anonymous said...

Is that dumb somebitch still carrying on like a psychotic bitch boy who got kicked out of sixth grade for eating his own buggers? My goodness what a little mental case.? Just look at him going balistic and talking all that violence business while calling other people loosrers and threatening to assault them. I bet his wife has to beat his ass all the time over his mouth overloading his arse.

If I was him I'd rush down hear, find every blogger who ever called him on his bullshit, and just try to kick their asses so they will know better than to ever have an opinion different that his. This guy sounds like a super hero. Thank God for the likes of those really bright ones like him.