Monday, October 31, 2016

Show-Me Gunslinger Greitens Firing Angry Rhetoric Aimed At Missouri AG Chris Koster

Local rally report as this newbie Missouri politico builds momentum. Take a look: 'Political Outsider' Eric Greitens Rallies With Gov. Scott Walker In Kansas City

21 Comments:

Anonymous said...

This is a shame. I voted for Greitens in the primary and intended to vote for him in the general election because he seemed fiscally conservative but socially libertarian. His recent hard right turn has caused me to change my mind.

Sorry, Eric, but you're playing to an empty theater with your dog whistle support of "religious freedom" and calling Scott Walker with his anti-worker bias in for support. It may have worked in 2004, but there's been a lot of water under the bridge since then.

Silvestor orgalthorp said...

649
What is more libertarian than religious freedom or supporting the rest of the bill of rights?

Anonymous said...

"Religious freedom" is dog whistle for discrimination against gays, which is decidedly NOT libertarian.

Anonymous said...

I am still voting for Greitens.

Silvestor orgalthorp said...

Being libertarian is defending the right of everyone to believe what they want whether you agree with them or not
But our form of government gives us all the chance to craft our laws based on the majority vote, not religious dogma
Libertarian philosophy is the absolute defense of the right of freedom of thought without recriminations

Anonymous said...

Walker, eh? That certainly explains a lot about Greitens...

Anonymous said...

I'm gay and I'm definitely voting for Greitens.

Anonymous said...

"Being libertarian is defending the right of everyone to believe what they want whether you agree with them or not
But our form of government gives us all the chance to craft our laws based on the majority vote, not religious dogma
Libertarian philosophy is the absolute defense of the right of freedom of thought without recriminations"

No argument there, but the right to believe does not mean the right to discriminate. For example, libertarians were among the first to advocate for gay marriage. People may believe gay marriage is wrong; it may well be in conflict with their religion, but they no longer have the right to deny gays the right to marry. That's just one example, but it's a pretty obvious one.

Is this difficult to understand?

And 8:35, vote as you wish. That's your (and my) right. I understand a few gays voted for George W. as well, and look how that turned out.

Anonymous said...

@9:32 your argument is disingenuous. No one today is arguing against gay marriage. No one is arguing against providing service to LGBT people. The argument is against requiring support to LGBT functions that is contrary to their moral principles. Is this difficult to understand?

Silvestor orgalthorp said...

932
You make my point for me
Our constitution provides the means to protect the rights of our people. It is slow I'll admit, but it does work
I just don't see anything libertarian when I see someone shouting down another person who is simply expressing they're opinion
Maybe in old fashioned, but I believe the motto of America should be "you leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone"

Anonymous said...

" No one is arguing against providing service to LGBT people."

This is EXACTLY what the "religious freedom" dog whistle calls for.

10:06: We're not that far apart. I, too, do not like it when people shout down others when they disagree. I believe all sides should be heard. And I like "you leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone." Personally, as long as there's someone who wants my business (bakers, etc.), I'm happy to leave those who don't want it alone, since the market will take care of them. But I would object to being denied housing, employment, and the necessities of life simply because someone doesn't like what I do in the privacy of my own bedroom. And that's my problem with Grietens. He stood up to bigotry in his primary race (and that served him well--he defeated three opponents without a runoff), but he's embracing it now. Go figure.

Anonymous said...

grietens is too smart for missouri.

Anonymous said...

Think Koster can find someone to bake his wedding cake if he comes out?

Anonymous said...

@10:53 that's a lie. Do some actual research; they were NOT denying these LGBT people service. In fact, they said they would be happy to sell them food. What they didn't want to do was cater an LGBT wedding ceremony.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^What's a lie?

Perhaps you might want to read what I wrote: " I'm happy to leave those who don't want it alone, since the market will take care of them. But I would object to being denied housing, employment, and the necessities of life simply because someone doesn't like what I do in the privacy of my own bedroom."

I don't care about people not wanting to do business with me as long as it doesn't involve housing, employment, and the necessities of life. Read much?

Anonymous said...

^^^ nice try at deflection. "Housing, employment, and the necessities of life" is sufficiently vague and broad that the lawyers will litigate it forever and bankrupt the little people that can't afford fat cat legal representation to fight the creep of statutory interpretation. Go back to your safe space, snowflake.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^Thanks for the stellar reply. You're much too brilliant for my limited abilities. I promise never to ask to rent your trailer, er mobile home.

Anonymous said...

Hey man! I live in a trailer.."rent it out" ? Why the hell would anyone do that, i mean a peron who actually lives in one.Its my fucking home.you are being a snooty,judgmental little bitch !! Just the kind of supposed people you RIGHTFULLY, rail against??

WTF'S youre problem ,dude?

Anonymous said...

your

Anonymous said...

@7:44 you're such a clever young hipster. Tell your mother to bring your dinner down to your basement room; Starbucks baristas need all the rest they can get.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^Ohhhh. You called it so right, but my vote counts just as much as yours. Life's a bitch, ain't it?