Wednesday, July 16, 2014

Dead Tree Media Fears Kansas City Firefighter Rage Over Carelessly Backing The Toy Train Taxes But Stalling Support For Public Safety



Take a look @ The Kansas City Star doubling down and hoping to draw up support for their transpiration patronage play . . .

Yael: KC Fire Department’s report card doesn’t yet merit $370 million tax

It's a mostly unforgivable column wherein Yael attempt to play fiscal conservative for the same paper that would gladly give away HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS FOR THE TOY TRAIN ON THE VAGUE PROMISE IT'LL DRUM UP BIZ . . .

Thankfully, this blog community pretty much embarrassed Dead Tree Media on the topic yesterday . . .

No matter the justification, this is simply an instance wherein The Newspaper, just like our Mayor would rather spend cash and effort on toy trains rather than fire stations in local neighborhoods. There's no defense of this move or the tragic choice leadership (or lack thereof) that now plays politics in Kansas City.

Developing . . .

41 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Muppets of TKC, cut and paste the usual pro and con arguments. Go.

Northlander said...

In one year alone $1.2 million was taken to pay for TIF'S so it would not seem KCMO really needs the money for the Fire Dept, but for a cash cow.

Anonymous said...

the "E" tax will go away in 2016 thanks to the screwing SLY is giving the public over his TOY TRAIN

Anonymous said...

Fael Abracadabra

Anonymous said...

Typical yael bullshit. Big surprise he's ain't fire department. He's obviously crushing on those handsome firefighters. They won't suck his dick or hump his ass. So he's pissed he can't get any love. All Yael wants is some hot fireman gravy all over his face. Poor Yael

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah...lets give the firemen more money. They already take 500 dollar naps on your dime and you will be stupid enuf to give em more huh.

Lama Glenn, 3rd degree Lama said...

Wait, I thought it was well documented that better building/sprinkler systems have drastically decreased the amount of fires over the last few decades.

Surely these high-school educated grillmasters aren't pulling some kind of endless fear based scam on the taxpayers, are they?

Anonymous said...

building materials

Anonymous said...

Yael: KC Fire Department’s report card doesn’t yet merit $370 million tax

FAEL is a great moniker for this guy. He was cheer-leading Public Safety Sales tax of 2010 but now, somehow, the Firefighters do not merit $370mil. Gimme a break.

He makes no mention of public safety's Frankenstein cousin, East Patrol. $70mil down the tubes with development that will ultimately choke off the remaining neighborhood. Anything goes in some parts of town.

Anonymous said...

Yael: KC Fire Department’s report card doesn’t yet merit $370 million tax

FAEL is a great moniker for this guy. He was cheer-leading Public Safety Sales tax of 2010 but now, somehow, the Firefighters do not merit $370mil. Gimme a break.

He makes no mention of public safety's Frankenstein cousin, East Patrol. $70mil down the tubes with development that will ultimately choke off the remaining neighborhood. Anything goes in some parts of town.

Anonymous said...

Oh everyone at The Star is cringing at the opinions at this Internet Shithole.

Also, Upscale Headlines Bug Everyone To Fucking Death.

Anonymous said...

I'd like those sexy fire ladies tugging on my hose!

Anonymous said...

Just Vote NO on all issues on August 5th. None deserve tax money when Burns & Mac and Cerner can't afford to pay taxes how can you.

Anonymous said...

Starve the fucking city hall beast!!

Anonymous said...

Yael is right.

EMS service is much worse than a "C". It was an A-B when they got it, then they applied firefighter logic to the service and now it is really a D-F.

And any organization that uses an expiring sales tax to fund existing personnel salaries should have their head checked for brain damage. Unless, of course, personnel funded by the tax will go away if the tax fails. The number of fires has dropped exponentially during the past 30 years, but the fire department has grown. Hmmmmmm.....

Anonymous said...

Italian union boss Cambiano is at odds with the english language. But even so challenged, he cannot explain the unexplainable---why does a fire truck and an ambulance have to come to every ambulance call. Oh, I forgot, the fire truck guys need to rack calls for the records. Got to show we need ALL of them on the payroll.

Anonymous said...

Rage, anonymous tipsters, and more dishonest distortions linking the light rail project to public safety. This blog is bullshit!

Anonymous said...

The only people leaving the fire department will be all the laid off ems workers when sly outsources the city to amr

Anonymous said...

4:46, if you were an expert, then you would understand. Yet you are a dumb fuck who will never understand. It's called geographics moron!

Anonymous said...

What do people prefer. Having public safety and services fully funded or obsolete cable cars few people are going to use slogging around at snail speeds.

Anonymous said...

Considering the gay male population of this area, you think the KCFD could make up the difference by selling sexy fireman calendars, especially if they show their big hoses.

Anonymous said...

False dilemma.

It is entirely, 100% possible to have a robust public safety and robust transit. We have one and we should maintain it. We need the other to secure any kind of future for the urban core. That's just a stone fact. You can disagree, but you'd be wrong. When EVERY OTHER CITY of comparable (or even less, now) size, is doing something one way, and you're not...you're wrong. Plain and simple.

Transit is a basic city service. Good transit is the difference between growing and shrinking urban cores now and for the foreseeable future.

Places that built in the 90s and 2000s are growing almost exclusively along their transit lines. Places without it are losing population, which means losing tax base.

This is a good, large-scale plan, it covers major transit corridors and creates a very solid system for getting around the core. And this represents the SINGLE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN THE EAST SIDE OF KC in its entire history.

Never before has a project of this magnitude and potential been proposed for the 3rd district.

Streetcars lead to investment that bus routes do not. And they are faster. And more efficient. And can carry more passengers.


This is the standard fare for the anti-transit crowd. One logical fallacy after another. Straw man arguments, ad hominems, black and white thinking. When you're wrong, and you know most people don't agree with you, its important to use a proven formula for propaganda.

Everything the anti camp claims and puts out is:

Fear
Uncertainty
Doubt

The pro-streetcar camp has provided facts. A preponderence of evidence, a plan (not a promise to "do better later"). All are widely circulated, available on line, they will answer questions in person, online and in forums.

The price is heafty. But what this city is buying is not just invaluable, and its a necessity for our continued existence as a city.

Anonymous said...

4:00 is right...go vote!

Anonymous said...

Regarding the sales tax and the Kansas City streetcar project extension, a true-or-false quiz:

Third District residents are elated that we are included.

Third District residents can’t wait for a streetcar running from Main Street on Linwood Boulevard to Prospect Avenue.

There are numerous attractions on Prospect Avenue.

If for some reason the project doesn't materialize, Third District residents won’t be stuck with the sales tax.

All of the above are false.

Anonymous said...

All I see is ONE pro streetcar sign out in a yard in this entire neighborhood.

LOL this thing is going down!

Anonymous said...

You really think this's hepatitis train is gonna last? I can smell the piss an paint fumes already. You can't put anything nice in the urban core without animals defacating and pissing on and in it. It's a fact that businesses and properties have been torn down because of the clientele surrounding these areas. There will be rapes and murders on this thing in a weeks time of it opening. You sir are a dumb ass!

Anonymous said...

Must be nice to have the money to live in briarcliff and the time to pay attention to transit issues in the urban core.

Anonymous said...

6:34 lives in the 6th district.

I have proof.

Thanks for trying, though.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of whether the street cars get funded or not, it won't make one penny difference with the Fire Department's budget or any other department's budget. Separate funds. If these dollars are commingled, then why doesn't the KCFD complain about increases in the Water Department's capital budget? They have hundreds of millions of dollars set aside for water projects. If the funds are commingled as suggested constantly by Local 42 and this blog, then Paul Berardi and Cambiano should lobby for their share of those funds. Or how about the funds for the well child program at the health department!

Anonymous said...

Well, streetcars are neither obsolete now slow, so no one knows what you're talking about.

Wait are you the "streetcars are 19th century technology" person? The one who doesnt know cars where invented in the 19th century?

Seriously, every time you repeat a dejanesism, everyone gets dumberer.

Tell us the one about how it's unfair for people paying the tax to get to vote on it again.

Or the one about how you promise to suddenly find "better" buses as long as we vote against the streetcar.

Or the one about how much you care about poor people who don't know how to decide for themselves why they want and need.

Anonymous said...

Ding ding ding! We can't have nice things in this city. Hoodrats and homeless people ruin it. Fact!

Anonymous said...

"This is the standard fare for the anti-transit crowd. One logical fallacy after another. Straw man arguments, ad hominems, black and white thinking. When you're wrong, and you know most people don't agree with you, its important to use a proven formula for propaganda."

Straw man arguments: Every other city has a streetcar and all are doing well. Streetcars lead to investment that bus routes do not. And they are faster. And more efficient. And can carry more passengers.

Ad hominem attacks: The Kochs and Rex Sinquefield don't like the streetcar; therefore, the anti-streetcar is a bunch of right-wing fanatics.

Black and white thinking: Not one person in Waldo disapproves of the streetcar. Not one.

A little bit of projection, Mensa boy?

And you went a bit off the rails (heh, heh) at 7:08, 7:14 & 7:49. And if you have proof 6:34 lives in the Sixth District, please share, Mr. Second District resident.

P Bear said...

Fuck the FD....garden hoses work better and much cheaper.

Plus, fire hoses don't go to Sun Fresh every day with the sirens wailing for a few steaks and baked potatoes. Fat bastards.

Anonymous said...

The firefighters are wanting us to slide the pole on Aug 5th.

If you pass it they will spend it. in fact they can take even longer naps on our dime.

Anonymous said...

I thought this was about the fire tax, not the stupid toy train. Lama, how many homes have sprinkler systems? None. I was very happy when the FD showed up and put out the fire at my house.

Anonymous said...

Well, the star article was about the ire tax. Both tonys Johnson county and the anti streetcar cabal in brookside have been trying to link the 2, because they are grasping at straws since their other anti streetcar bullshit (streetcars aren't any different than buses, all the economic development they foster imaginary, streetcar kill children playing, dangerous blacks will ride streetcars into brookside and rape your white girls, businesses deserve to vote, the streetcar is stealing money from sewers, streetcars kill bicyclists, it unjust to allow people being taxes to vote on their taxes, no one will ride it, KCs not dense enough, etc) is sticking.

A smokescreen of pretending that the streetcar has anything to so with FD funding is their last hope.

It's the only reason Touhey and the show boaters aren't attacking the fire tax right now. These are the very ame people who campaigned to bankrupt our city by letting outstate missouri decide whether KC should be allowed to levy a flat, fair income tax that fund our city services not 2 years ago.

Talk about unjust gerrymandering. Nothing like letting people in Kearney and nixa vote on issues that only affect kc and StL.

There's a reason they don't want us to even be able to vote (they sued twice to try to stop democratic elections, remember) on a big, real, modern, efficient transit project that would mostly serve midtown and the easy side.

There's a reason no one in midtown or the east side has EVER heard from or seen any of these yahoos before.

There's a reason a St. Louis billionaire is funding most of the opposition.

Anonymous said...

You pro tax scum for the train are so low even reprehensible is too high for you.

You self serving aristocrat firemen bureaucrats will hopefully get the correct and sane fiscal answer on Aug 5. That being live within your budget as all the taxpayers have too.

Anonymous said...

Reading between the lines Mensa boy says:

"I WANT IT, waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh! I need a job after 2015!!!!!!"

Anonymous said...

I'd let those girls pull my hose.

Anonymous said...

All the smart people have already moved to Johnson County.

Anonymous said...

All of the destitute, broke people who tried to make it work in Kansas City have to work another 6-24 months to get the money to get to Johnson County.