Tuesday, January 21, 2014

TKC EXCLUSIVE AND BREAKING NEWS!!! CHICAGO CAN CURB VIOLENCE AND MURDER, SO WHY CAN'T KANSAS CITY?!?!



Let's do just a bit of compare and contrast with a bigger, better and much more dangerous city given so much talk about making our town being "best" and "world-class" and what not . . .

Check it . . .

TOP ECHELON KANSAS CITY INSIDERS QUESTION: WHY IS CHICAGO CURBING ITS VIOLENCE AND HOMICIDE WHILE KANSAS CITY NUMBERS REMAIN FIXED AND DISPROPORTIONALLY HIGH?!?!

Check a bit of evidence to back up our claim:

Chicago police: Crime down 16 percent, homicides down 18 percent

Meanwhile . . . For at least half a decade on record and beyond that really . . . Kansas City has been mired with the same murder count and most local politicos seem unwilling and unable to address the problem.

A TOP ECHELON Kansas City Insider asks . . . "What are they doing in Chicago that we have failed to accomplish? That's what we need to find out. Chicago has been one of the most violent places in the nation but they have managed to achieve success in reducing their homicide and violent crime numbers. But this year it already looks like Kansas City is on track to repeat our 100+ murder pattern."

For quite some time, this blog has maintained that it's the lack of political will that's the difference in fighting homicide in Kansas City Proper. Last year Chicago was forced to confront its problem with homicide and violence as the nation demanded answers from their leadership. Meanwhile, the only thing locals demand from Kansas City elected leaders is to keep shady economic development schemes moving forward.

That's my take on it . . . But now I'm putting the question to you d-bags . . . If Chicago can curb their murder count and rate of violent crime, why can't Kansas City?

38 Comments:

Anonymous said...

look no further than the budget. Kansas City wants to give more money to P&L and the train while cutting pensions. That's the real crime going on at City Hall.

Anonymous said...

Cops who kick ass and take no names

Flint Lock said...

Tony and 11:00 are both right. KC leaders, most who roost in JoCo at night, would rather fund the Toy Train, P&L, Union Station, the New Airport and other projects that put money in the pockets of Chamber of Commerce members, again, that live in JoCo. Reducing murder in the hood would take resources and will. KC leaders have neither. Just look at Kyle VanWinkle. Murdered at Arrowhead, suspects in police custody, released and NO CHARGES. That's Kansas City's lack of will for you. I'm thankful that I don't live in the shit hole and would recommend those of you who do, MOVE !

Anonymous said...

Could you stop with the anonymous TOP ECHELON nonsense? WHO SAID IT??

My guess obviously is Alonzo. Or just another made-up nobody whose thoughts aren't worth repeating.

Anonymous said...

Our niggers aren't as smart as Chicago niggers.

Anonymous said...

Let's all give a cheer to expand Missouri and Kansas into Police States. We're almost there in Kansas. Kansas City Kansas is second only to Chicago for mafia based politics.
You people have lost your minds to use Chicago as an example.
City Hall's are where the bought and paid for jump and jive about crime. Paid for mouth pieces do as their told.
Crime is big business. How much are the cost overs for the new crime lab?

Anonymous said...

Chicago "curbs violence?" Lol. And fairly ignorant about statistics. Didn't you take this at UMKC?

When something is down 18% from a record high, that is good. But when it's still a magnitude over every other city in the nation, it's not a success.

Put it this way, if I cut back smoking crack from 50 times a week to 25 times a week, does that mean I've "curbed" my crack use?

Chicago has seen a reduction in homicides that take it from World Class Fail to National Fail. That's about it.

Anonymous said...

The police department also dissolved special units to put more officers on beat patrols, flooded high crime areas with officers and implemented a gang violence reduction strategy. Source.

The police say they are tamping down retaliatory shootings between gang factions by using a comprehensive analysis of the city’s tens of thousands of suspected gang members, the turf they claim and their rivalries. The police are also focusing on more than 400 people they have identified as having associations that make them the most likely to be involved in a murder, as a victim or an offender. Source.

See how five minutes of research can turn the usual diarrhea-spewing TOP INSIDER!!! posts into something useful?

Facts. Try them.

Hyperblogal said...

spending hundreds of millions of dollars on folly trollies will certainly help.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, actually, focusing on creating and maintaining a thriving urban core with good transit and walkabilty is part of how Chicago has curbed its violence.

Hate transit and fear progress all you want. The writing is on the wall. Transit is a basic ammenity of every thriving city.

Anonymous said...

REALITY CHECK

Violent crime in the urban core exists, to the extent that it does, because it is tolerated. Did you hear that? It is TOLERATED.

If the city leaders, police, residents, etc., would not tolerate it...it would be substantially reduced. Think this is too simplified? City leaders, police, and most of those with power/decision making positions do NOT live in the heavily crime-ridden areas. Poor people are largely without a voice and are all to easily ignored. Poor people do not write checks to Mayor James (see previous post on Burns & McD Engineers contributing to Mayor James campaign).

KCMO Police are in the business of policing, and like most bureaucracies seek to continually grow. They have a perverse vested interest in maintaining a crime level which allows them to remain in business.

Mayor James was elected because he's a friendly player with KCMO business interests. His priority is not to reduce crime and improve conditions in high crime areas.

Anonymous said...

First in Chicago, the police actually live in the neighborhoods they protect. Second, the majority of criminals in Chicago belong to a gang and the gangs police themselves. They do not want undue attention by the police that would interfer with their criminal operations. Third, Chicago is very territorial and gangs operate in specific geographical areas which makes it easier for victims to identfy suspects.

KC is the exact opposite!

top echelon insider with no name said...

Why is a "top Echelon Insider" commenting anonymously on a blog? I would think the T E I would have the stones to put his or her name to a legit question.

Anonymous said...

We need stop and frisk and drones flying over neighborhoods. And for people who may have witnessed or heard something to come forward.

Anonymous said...

Do Chicago cops spend their time raising revenue for the city or do they actually do police work?

Anonymous said...

KC needs a proactive police department and that is never going to happen unless we hire leadership from the outside. In any other field great management have experience from a myriad of organizations. In KC a guy joins the PD and that is the extent of his experience forever. Nothing is going to change as long as we continue with the same old worn out culture.

Another Midtown Mom said...

I love how the "research" here just seemed to back up Tony's original statement.

Not quite a fact check. LOL!

Anonymous said...

12:07 nails it for the most part.

Can't argue 11:03 much either.

Anonymous said...

What about the KCPD Rape Ring back in 2011? How come that has been scrubbed like the Seattle NATO riots of 1999?

Anonymous said...

Chicago has a lot higher latino population than KC. They are very aggressive in deporting as much of the problem back to where they came from as they can. The blacks are still capping each other as fast as they can reload...

Anonymous said...

I read the above posts and one thing is for sure, violent crime is tolerated not by the city but by the police. 95% of the violent crime in KC occurs in less than 5%of KC's land mass. If the KCPD officers would just go out and stop cars they would get guns off the street, develop informants and be more approachable by citizens. Al Capone went to jail for tax invasion not for his gang activities. Let every officer on a shift stop 5-7 cars/pedestrians a day and see the results. No excuses!

Anonymous said...

Get rid of the Chiefs and their will be a hysterical mass uprising of enraged citizens.

Chad Bechamel said...

I swear to God we must have the worst niggers in the nation. I mean, they can't even rap for G-D sake.

Anonymous said...

2:38 is getting close to the truth of having more officers in high crime areas doing stops or stop and frisk, but that will NEVER happen in KCMO, where the elected folks are terrified of the local versions of Jesse and Al.
Easier to look the other way, spend millions on nonprofits who fail year after year, and make believe public safety is the job of the police board or somebody else.
These other cities have mayors and councilmembers actually engaged in what city government is responsible for, including safety.
For the locals, its' all just a big game and being part of the club. And then running for something else.
A city that works.
Just not for you.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps it's because Chicago has fully funded Aim4Peace?

Anonymous said...

You want answers? CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH! Nobody can. Nobody is going out there on camera and saying WHY and WHAT is causing all the crime in KC. Its not politically correct to say what it is, and yet everyone knows.

Until these morons actually come out and begin discussing what everyone knows, but is too afraid to speak on...then nothing will get done. For some reason, the mayor thinks that more guns laws...as if there were not enough on the books already will be the answer to it.

We need real men running the show, no more hipster dreams of a utopian kansas city where everyone is giggling and smiling on a toy train after they get back in town from a single terminal airport. Everyone is happy and holding hands.

GET THE FUCKING JOB DONE ALREADY WHEN IT COMES TO REDUCING CRIME. Call it what it is. Are those white kids running in mobs on the plaza? Are they white kids doing rolling gun battles over territory in KC?

Im not saying whites dont commit violence, but my goodness when are people going to get real with this problem. Stop blaming guns, and stop pretending that its contained. This shit is spreading into Johnson County and we dont want it. So get your fucking heads out your asses and go do something about this plague. Get some balls and speak up, speak out.

Anonymous said...

Ya'll hang on that child molester from West Virginia will show up in a bit to tell us how this really comes down. Wife beating Byron Farthonker will have some answers.

Anonymous said...

Chicago has the reverend Jesse Jackson, Kansas City has Alonzo! That's why....

Ernest Evans said...

Dear Mr. Tony: Thanks for posting this info. Chicago is not the only city that KCMO should be looking at, crime-wise. In LA County in 1990 there were 1500 homicides--in 2010 there were 500. In NYC there were 2250 homicides in 1992--in 2013 there were 325. In Wash/DC there were 440 homicides in 1992--in 2013 there were 104. And KCMO? In 1993 there were 153 homicides--last year there were 106. Yes, we are lower than in the early 1990's--but our decline in homicides since then has been one of the lowest in the country--which is why now we have, per capita, the fourth highest homicide rate of any city in the country. I think that you are right--in these other cities the city leaders confronted the homicide problem and took counter-measures--here in KCMO the political class is terrified of even discussing it because of the local versions of Al Sharpton. KCMO citizens, wake up!! It is not racist to be concerned about the bloodbath in the city's black neighborhoods that has been going on since the spring of 2008!! Take care. Sincerely and Respectfully, Ernest Evans

Anonymous said...

There's no such thing as "fully funding" empty scams like Aim4Peace.
These nonprofits are nothing but make-work jobs that make millions of dollars simply disappear without and results at all and the cowards who fund them don't have the guts to hold anyone to account or cut off funding even after years of no impact on either the number of murders or solving them. In fact, the city, corporations, foundations, and others don't really even know what these groups do.
The successful cities noted have greatly increased both the presence and aggressiveness of their police operations in high-crime areas and it's paying off.
KCMO doesn't have the guts to do what it takes.
And now we have a whole new way to waste money by throwing it at NoVa.
By December 31, 2014 there will have been at least 105 murders in KCMO.

Anonymous said...

Dead horse! Everybody knows how this problem can be solved. Give away more money! /

Anonymous said...

Same reason why Hallmark can't print a decent Birthday Card?

Anonymous said...

Do you even know what breaking and exclusive means? I didn't think so.

Anonymous said...

This is how little folks know about the law in Missouri. In Missouri there is no law against carrying a legally owned loaded, cocked and locked gun in your vehicle. No permit required That law has been on the books for years under the "Peaceful Journey" theme. Gun owners may also use that gun under the, Castle doctrine, to protect their cars, homes, camping trailers and even their tents. Now why folks are getting var jacked is just a crying shame when they can dispose of an illegal intruder in a matter of seconds and do it legally as hell.

The other problem with seizing guns (besides it being generally illegal for a cop to do it) is that state law also prevents a database of gun owners so the only thing a cop can do is check a gun against a computer to see if it is reported stolen or seize the gun if it is in the possession of someone who may not legally possess a firearm. I suppose this ain't such a bad thing, except, again, that folks are still under this misguided bullshit belief that the cops are going to handle all things illegal. If that were fact the cops would show up before you are a victim and that damn near never happens.

Anonymous said...

"They have a perverse interest in maintaining a crime level that allows them to remain in business." 1207 that is a very perverse statement about your local police force.

Anonymous said...

Because schools, that is why.

Anonymous said...

Because schools, that is why.

Dr. Ernest Evans said...

Dear Mr. Tony: One other thing about Chicago and its relative success in bringing down the crime rate. Chicago is a much bigger, much more nationally-connected town than KCMO--and it is home to some of the world's best universities. It is inconceivable that in Chicago that the local journalists, had they been confronted with an emotional case like the Sofia Salva tragedy, would have been criminally irresponsible enough to have done what most of the journalists in KCMO did in 2007-2008: Repeatedly dump fuel on the fire until KCMO was on the verge of a horrific race riot in May 2008. I know a lot of journalists in Chicago: Every single one of them knows that the Watts riots of 1965, in which 35 people died, were sparked by (erroneous) reports that the LAPD were beating a pregnant black woman. I have mentioned this fact to a number of journalists in KCMO: Not a single one of them was aware of it. All too many of our local reporters have got some real serious gaps in their knowledge--that fact about the Watts riot of 1965 should be known by every journalist in America. In Christ, Ernest Evans