TKC CONFIRMED!!! MORE KANSAS CITY STREETCAR TOY TRAIN QUESTIONS ARISE!!!
Earlier this week we reported some really weird questions circulating about Kansas City's Toy Train Streetcar.
And now . . .
TAKE A LOOK AT PROOF OF EVEN MORE POLLING EFFORTS PUSHED TOWARD KANSAS CITY VOTERS ON THE SUBJECT OF THE TOY TRAIN STREETCAR!!!
Feel free to be a marketing guinea pig for . . .
kcstreetcarcomments.org
Sadly, none of the comments will be made public and this is really just another way for the architects of the Kansas City Toy Train to pretend they have a consensus.
Meanwhile . . .
The lawsuit against "stacking" and other strange taxing schemes is still pending against the TDD.
Behind the scenes the Plaza/UMKC Toy Train Streetcar Line is the next effort that will soon see a big push.
And no . . . There's a claim that these transit efforts will attract business but they still can't name one company that's moving to Kansas City because of the toy train.
DEVELOPING . . .
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Toy Train will save KC.
Sly told me so.
No the comments that say the streetcar is the best thing to hit KC will be posted.
The site will sort of be like the comments section at Stanfords Comedy website one or two will come from real people the rest will be done by staff members.
The two organizations are so alike, they have a few supporters who rant and rave about them but as a whole the rest of the world despise the two and for the most part the ones running them.
Supporters don't even have one company that they can claim is moving downtown because of the streetcar. Sure they thought Perceptive Software, Cerner Corporation, etc would all be moving downtown once they learned about the silly train. Sly has nothing right about this mess.
I think the train system will be a great addition to Kansas City.
Rail transit is long overdue in this town, kc is far behind the curve
Rail does not = better, just more expensive. There are some people dead set on "our city's image" and not about it's practicality or functionality. Kansas City has some of the lowest cost of living in the country, and our sales and property taxes are quickly growing out of proportion to that.
We keep building stuff faster than we grow, and in an effort to maintain it all, we're going to drive more families out of the city. There are better, cheaper, more innovative ways to improve public transit and polish our image than building a 20th century rail system.
We paved over the old rail lines for a reason.
How can you idiots even think about spending money on something like this when we can't even afford to update our crumbling infrastructure?
I feel the rail system is far too centralized to one area and doesn't offer most of the cities population any viable transportation options. Coming from north of the river is one suppose to get off the highway go park at the city market then wait to catch a train then go two miles or so. Or would one just stay on the highway and drive the five minutes to the destination yourself.
It's not so much the streetcar as it is the total and complete corruption behind it. Let's face the facts, something is seriously wrong with City leadership.
Any word on all those "secret businesses" lining up for the chance to be downtown?
the secret businesses coming to KC:
Snype Hunting Inc.
KC Big Foot Expedition Tours
Mighty MO Loch Ness Society
Greasy's Burgers
Trough and Brew
Jiffy Lube
Big Hubs Car Wash
If density is important to KC, then why are they building sewers and interchanges up north in greenfields? They talk out of both sides of their mouths!!
Hoiw likely is it that businesses will move downtown to enjoy the new higher property taxes the streetcar will bring? Hell, most businesses will move across the state line to save a couple of bucks.
Density. Translation-Cram as many cattle as you can into one pen.
Diversity-Translation-Cram as many incompatible sheep as you can into one pen.
There is no real desire for this glorified trolley other than the hyped fantasies of city planners. And the engineers, lawyers, and contractors lining up to suck our money into their personal coffers.
Transit advocates who believe streetcars offer a “quality” alternative to buses are fooling themselves. Their low average speeds, limited number of seats, and inflexibility make streetcars inferior to buses in every respect except in their ability to consume large amounts of taxpayer money. City officials who believe that streetcars alone will revitalize blighted parts of their urban areas have been deceived by smooth-talking consultants and dissembling politicians who were foolish enough to build streetcars in their cities.
http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/great-streetcar-conspiracy
I lived and worked in and around down town Portland, and I hated the street cars and light rail projects clogging city streets for bike riders, pedestrians, car drivers and even bus riders. Charlie Hales, Portlands Mayor worked for HDR Inc., a streetcar consulting company and is part of a nationwide "conspiracy" to con city planners into building streetcar lines based on the giant taxpayer sucking money pit known as the "Portland Model".
Most police, fewer streetcars... please.
HDR grows fat on your blood, David and Matt get their train.
Sly wins, we lose.
Why don't they just build 2 miles of moving sidewalks?
Who pays the bonds off when the tax district does not raise enough money?
What happens when the sewer lines break and the street car line is flooded with sewage like bruch creek gets after a rain?
Judge dismisses KC streetcar lawsuit
A "business" they might be trying to attract would be that overblown UMKC Crossroads Arts place, with it's hundreds of futureless university art students spending $$$ downtown.
Assuming the dollar doesnt die beforehand.
LOL @ you scared suburbanites, scrambling to protect the equity you have dumped into poor real estate decisions and even poorer taste.
100% of new development in ANY phase (planning, construction, acquisition, etc.) is in the streetcar TDD.
The buyers of vacant and abandoned properties along the line have ALL said the streetcar was a factor in their plans to develop. Most recently, 20th and Main.
Not only that, many business in the TDD are actually getting A TAX CUT IN 2013.
@2:20
I own a blighted piece of property on the line and no one has approached me to buy it.
Who gets a tax cut? Not me. Facts please before you spot off with nonsense.
Sue Burke gets a tax cut, even with the streetcar tax. Look it up.
Fix your blighted property then, you filthy slumlord piece of shit. Or get the fuck out of our city.
A toy train isn't an incentive for me to develop there. I need abundant tax breaks and subsidies. Tax payers will need to cover all the hidden costs present and future since they voted for it. It's really quite simple. All this could have been done without a toy train. In fact the toy train is going to make it less desirable to do business there. Why would I do business in an area with runaway costs?
Then sell your shit and go beg Kansas for corporate welfare.
924 you're going to play that tired article? Everyone, it says institution; it's fact.
A hundred MILLION bucks probably isn't even close to the amount needed to fix the sewer system in KC but it sure would be a good start. A much better place to spend tax dollars than this stupid, fucking train crap.
hey 4:01
You keep saying very specific people and parcels of property get a tax cut. You are full of it. I challenge you to show me where I get a tax cut.
SB
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