A capital idea from the Kansas Meadowlark: Using Google street view to find empty lots in Wyandotte County in Kansas City, KS where voters were registered to vote and then challenge everyone voting Democrat. It's a damn good idea and something that I'm sure Kansas Republicans are working on, since it avoids actually having to visit those filthy, nasty neighborhoods.
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Thanks for your eagle eyes in discovering this great website. I will bookmark it for updates on the 'sunflower' side of the line.
ReplyDeleteIt really is a good site, not really a blog but well worth a read.
ReplyDeleteGoogle is not a good source for addressing info. This "article" points ONLY to vacant lots. What if the potential voter moved elsewhere within the county and this bloggers “source” is outdated?
ReplyDeleteI checked two of these against county tax rolls. One was a house demo'd in 2004 (one of the registered but never voted examples.) Another actually lived next door to the vacant property (potentially moved next door after the house was demo'd?) Either way, this is typical internet tinfoil hat wearing bullshit. The internet is not a good source for this information. Feel free to confirm this owner and address info with the county.
While houses conform to odd on one side, even on the other, they ARE RARELY addressed numerically, that is, not every odd or even number is used. 2224 does not necessarily follow 2226, you also have to factor in corner lots, (addressed off a perpendicular street) ½ addresses, etc. So the assumption that the empty ground next to a house at 1929 is addressed as 1931 is a fairly broad assumption. Google’s addressing is theoretical at best.
This post has a distinct lack of credible sources. Note that most "owners" have not voted recently, or have never voted. The author tries to make an argument based on internet only sources and fails miserably. Real estate is a unique investment, and each piece has its own “story” in regards to ownership, addressing, etc. The organic nature of the investment guarantees endless variation and few standards with which this bonehead’s “assumptions” can rely on.
This post REEKS of lazy, irresponsible commentary based on limited flawed sources and little to no knowledge of the subject matter. Reading an article on REALTOR.com about refinancing your house does not qualify you as an expert on addressing, site location, or voter registration rolls.
The Meadowlark article belches out limited information in order to make a persuasive argument and ignored any factual information that might discredit that argument. I would venture to say that most of these inactive voters have moved or died. Most of the active voters live elsewhere in the county. The Meadowlark would serve the casual reader to mention these possibilities. Of course that wouldn’t feed the GOP agenda in Kansas.
Very good at “appearing” balanced. Very bad at actually doing it. To confirm owners, addresses, where people have moved, even death certificates, all one has to do is call the county. 20 minutes and a little bipartisan thinking would have served this post well. The lack of such research reveals an agenda.
Sorry for the sloppy post, short on time.
check out the northeast, its nastier. Especially Lickens
ReplyDeleteSo you are encouraging the republicans to cage voters, Tony? I am surprised at you for this. You do realize they cage Hispanics too? They really aren't exclusive about which minority voters they prevent from voting. Do some research and you might change your mind about this.
ReplyDeleteI think Tony was being ironic.
ReplyDeletejesus,
ReplyDeleteYou're a bit harsh when you seem to ignore facts, or take the worst possible interpretations, instead of engaging in a rational discussion of voters at empty lots.
The point of the article was that Google Street Views was NOT good enough to identify the empty lots, which I knew because I actually visited all the neighborhoods in person. What other Internet sources are you talking about? You would know your statement, "The author tries to make an argument based on internet only sources", was NOT correct if you read the article.
Using the list of registered voters from the Kansas Secretary of State on Jan 28, 2008 (which is NOT online and can be purchased for $200), NONE of these voters could be located elsewhere in Wyandotte County or anywhere in Kansas. Why are you so harsh in your criticism when the check you're complaining about was made?
There are about 190,000 voters "inactive" voters in Kansas -- see the earlier article. Some of these voters may have moved to other locations in Kansas, but in theory the Secretary of State removes their old registration when they re-register. Until these voters re-register, they can legally vote even if their address is an empty lot, but they will likely be voting for the wrong state rep, state senator, and other "district" officials. [FWIW, there are a few voters in Kansas in other counties known to be registered more than once, sometimes at the same address!]
I am aware that not every even or odd number is used. That's why visiting a neighborhood and observing the numbering pattern is important to be accurate. Comments were made in the article to explain interpretation of house numbers when there was some doubt.
Your comment about 1929 Stewart doesn't make any sense. There is a house at 1931 Stewart, and to the west at 1933 Stewart. There is an empty lot to the east (I claimed it was 1929 Stewart -- there was a numbering pattern on that block), and a parking lot to the east of that. Where possibly could the voter who is registered at 1929 Stewart live? How is my statement a "broad assumption" instead of a "reasonable assumption". The picture I took shows the empty lot and the house at 1931 Stewart. Where is 1929 Stewart?
The home ownership information, while interesting, doesn't matter for voting. The list of registered voters from the Secretary of State is the official list of those who are allowed to vote if they show up at the polls whether they are home owners or not.
What does it take to have a rational discussion? You injected a lot of hyperbole and innuendo to discredit what was intended to be a balanced story. Voters of all political parties were found at the empty lots. I looked for empty lots and checked if voters were registered to vote from that address. What is wrong with that?
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