Monday, April 30, 2007

Shooting Interrupts Shopping!!! Panic among white people who want violence to stay in its proper place (i.e. minority communities)!!!



This town fucking disgusts me.

For a longer time than I want to admit I've linked one crime story after the next . . . Murders, rapes, drive by shootings BUT rarely do the reports of violence in the media get much of a response.

Earlier this month a 2 year-old girl was killed in a drive-by shooting and the story didn't stay in the news for more than a half-a-day.

A little more than a week ago, a double homicide didn't raise an eyebrow among media watchers. The same can be said for most (if not all) of the murders on the Eastside.

But, predictably . . . When violence finally (inevitably) reaches out, into a part of town that isn't perceived to be "deserving" of a death toll . . . Then this whole city comes to a halt.

All of the preliminary reports are in and only a few details and (the always unsatisfying) motive are left to be discovered. On Sunday, a gunman killed two people in the Target store parking lot of the Ward Parkway Shopping Center. The perpetrator in the shooting is also implicated in a South KC homicide of a 67 year-old woman along with shooting a KCPD officer in the arm when he was stopped driving the aforementioned woman's car that was reported stolen. The alleged perpetrator was later killed by the police who confronted the man inside the Target store where two more people were injured in the melee.

So . . . All total . . . 4 people might have been killed directly related to this incident with another 2 injured . . . And I don't want to belittle anyone's suffering here but this sounds like a pretty average Summer weekend on the Eastside yet somehow the same body count never rates all of the panicked faces and LIVE, LATE BREAKING COVERAGE that KC's mall shooting garnered.

And the reason is clear, everybody knows, it doesn't need to be whitewashed and it underlies every assumption media watchers have about tuning into this story: What's clear from the overzealous coverage of the so-called "rampage" is that nobody cares when murders happen in low income neighborhoods, among po'folk or even worse among brown po'folk. It just doesn't rank as news and it's rarely this town's top story.

Even funnier . . . In the back of everyone's mind is a vague connection to the Virginia Tech massacre . . . And while this unfortunate shooting may prove that "Kansas Citians Can Be Just As Crazy As Everyone Else" It's certainly not a national tragedy even if the story did make the news on the BBC in between reports on whatever the Royal brat bastards are up to . . . But I digress.

If only for a second this recent KC shooting might bring arguments about gun control to the table. The day's events inspired a local blogger to proclaim: "I think we should limit gun ownership to one narrowly defined hunting rifle per adult and round up and confiscate everything else." And while that's a nice sentiment, I think I'd feel safer knowing that everybody else turned in their guns before me if that plan were to go into action.

Still, I don't think this issue is really about gun control or high minded ideals about who should have weapons given that this country has spent BILLIONS arming so many foreign nations and their children:



Additionally, no one can say violence shocks media watchers anymore given the level of carnage that the average American citizen can ignore coming from Iraq.



Or the violence Americans seemingly endorse when it's to benefit U.S. interests or those of allies who have little regard for the lives of faraway brown children.



Still, the media blitz regarding the Ward Parkway Shootings and the frenzy that it inspired seems to be nothing more than the same topic that I thought was thoroughly covered after 9/11 . . .



But yet again, the question remains the same: Do you have a right to feel safe in a world/city filled with so much suffering?

Your mileage may vary but I've already made note of the many murders in this town that went overlooked because they didn't hit the white community where they live.

And always, always it strikes me as funny that so many Plaza protesters carry signs for peace and/or justice (ugh) when that concept doesn't really exist merely a few blocks to the East no matter what the outcome of the hopeless cause they're fighting for on the other side of the planet.

3 people dead in a mall shooting
won't come close to the inevitable death toll this City will rack up when it comes to young, Black males this summer but that issue didn't even merit more than passing mention during the last mayoral election . . . Truly, more people were interested in potholes or TIFs (especially most of the worthless local political bloggers) rather than anything having to do with what is tantamount to a yearly killing spree in Kansas City.

And now I have to stop because I'm being too cynical . . . Certainly there were bright spots in this tragedy . . . For instance, a local blogger managed to buy some pants in the middle of this thing and once and for all prove that men are better than women at everything (including shopping).

Additionally, talking on a cell phone and drinking overpriced coffee makes Beth Gottstein a hero!!!!!! Really, KC's worst public speaker on the "new" City Council proved that she's willing to listen to her constituents take gunfire over the phone . . . Check it:

Kansas City Councilwoman-elect Beth Gottstein also was at the Starbucks with friends. She had stepped out just before the shooting started. She and other customers were able to get away from the building, but a few of Gottstein’s friends were trapped in the coffee shop. She stayed in contact with them by cell phone throughout the ordeal.

“I was more fearful for the people around me,” Gottstein said.
Really, heroes were everywhere and even Sharon Sanders Brooks, another incoming councilwoman, was trapped in the TJ Maxx but still bravely proved that nothing could stop her from buying nice, new, plus sized clothes!!! Now that's leadership.

Anyway, I guess I shouldn't be surprised how this town (over)reacts to a few killings that are on a different side of Troost for a change.

Nobody likes the real world ruining a beautiful Sunday afternoon. Maybe putting a tragedy in perspective is too painful. Take a close enough look at how quickly life can come to an end and it's easy to realize that we don't need to look far for signs of our impending doom. The clock is already ticking. It's pointless to look for death on the end of a candlestick, to go searching for something that has already found us.

70 Comments:

Anonymous said...

Yo0u need serious help.

Anonymous said...

Maybe rather than look for a racist angle you should take the time to consider this. 80 percent of the violent crime in kansas city happens in an area that comprises 20 percent of the entire kc area. So its easy to see that black on black crime is so common place we have all become desensitized to it. Crazy shit dosent happen everyday around ward parkway so its news. Another killing along troost or in some gang infested inner city area is just so common its business as usual. The media, white or otherwise aint the problem sport.

Anonymous said...

Tony,

Last year homicide #11 was white man murdered in his driveway in brookside just two blocks from my house. (a white part of town). It too, didn't get any media attention. ( http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2006/02/kc_homicide_200.html)

Racism is in the media, but not every news story is racist. Random shootings in crowded places always make the news.

But I have to say, when you bring up the point of the 2 year old in the drive by.

Anonymous said...

I'd say you're mostly right on with this, Tony. Americans in general are racist when it comes to the level of violence they will tolerate.

Anonymous said...

Americans in general are racist when it comes to the level of violence they will tolerate. Are you retarded or just stupid. Its not my fault that young black men kill each other like its open season. With your way of looking at things, Im guilty by virtue of being white. Newsflash for ya scooter, I am white, I live in midtown and Ive never shot or killed anyone. I also am not out trying to stop a bunch of hoods from killing each other, but that doesnt mean Im tolerant of the violence, Im just helpless to institute change among a group of people who would rather blame everyone for the problems in their area, well everyone but themselves and the actual perps.
Stop blaming whitey and clean your own house.

upstate said...

Tony, guess you forgot about Precious Doe..national coverage for months. Your racist rant has no virtue whatsoever. It doesn't help the victims or their families. It doesn't help the community and it doesn't help heal racial problems in this community.

Go hang with Sharpton. You two have a lot in common.

condoChiefs said...

You talk like this is just happening in KC. This happens in all metropolitan areas. Your hatred for this town basically is a hatred for society and people in general. But we already knew that about you.

Anonymous said...

How long has it been since you've gone to this mall? I've lived in that area for the past five years...during the colder months I'm a mall-walker there 3 days a week...there are people of all races who frequent this mall..which is a fabulous thing. It has come a long way in the past five years...hopefully it can continue to grow.

Anonymous said...

You want to know why ghetto crime and shootings are not covered with the same kind of vigor and enthusiasm as violent acts like this? Ghetto crime, drive bys, shootings in ghetto clubs and ghetto parks happen every friggin day. There is always some broke ass loser in this city willing to shoot some other broke ass loser.

If they did a news story on every shooting in the dumpy parts of town that’s all they would cover. No sports, no weather, just some worthless bag of skin killing or maiming some other worthless bag of skin, or some innocent that lacks the ability or comprehensive skills to engage in a thought process that should be screaming I NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THE GHETTO!

This was a random act of violence. This was news because it could happen to ANYONE. This was news because it could potentially be links to Virginia Tech.

Random people shot in parking lots and shopping malls is not a story that happens daily.

The drug deal gone wrong, the young kids turning to gangs because they have a worthless parent(s), the church group with the attention whoring pastor doing yet another vigil, the violence that happens whenever this class of people get together with booze and ghetto rap, the stop snitching bullshit, its all old, its all tired, and frankly these areas are the dredges of society.

These people don’t work, don’t care, and don’t have the common sense necessary to improve their station in life. I went to high school with some of these kids. I saw their worthless family structure, and I wasn’t surprised when they got in trouble and dropped out.

The ghetto doesn’t add anything to this city. The ghetto makes no attempt to improve itself or themselves. Why should I care? I don’t buy drugs, prostitutes, or have any other reason to be in that part of town dealing with those kind of assholes.

A random shooting at a place I might shop at? Now that is worth hearing about because that might have something to do with me.

I don’t know when it happened, but at some stage in the game certain groups of people (of all races) decided that instead of being productive or at least self respecting, they would instead declare themselves victims. I wish there was no ghetto, none of that kind of nonsense, but until I start seeing news stories on a massive scale about how these people actually stand up and put some friggin effort forth I will not think about them, nor will I care to sit and watch the latest story about how they are killing themselves. It’s not that god damn hard to get an honest job, and work up from there.

And Tony your “woe is me I’m a minority!” bullshit is getting pretty stale. Guess what Vato, all the po’ folk you champion for don’t have computers and they don’t read blogs.

Anonymous said...

hey anonymous at 930
maiming some other worthless bag of skin, or some innocent that lacks the ability or comprehensive skills to engage in a thought process that should be screaming I NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THE GHETTO!

So are you saying the two year killed in the drive by last week was a worthless bag of skin? You have no freakin clue what you are talking about! A large chunk of the people killed are folks that work their 40+ hour a week job and get killed in the crossfire. They don't move because they can't afford better.

I was set to be all down on Tony's post until I read yours. Now I think he has a point. People like you have no idea what goes on in other parts of the city. You make your own goddam assumptions and think you can pigeon hole everyone that lives in a particular part of town.

So some single mom works two jobs while grandma watches her kids and you call her a worthless bag of skin because she can't afford a house in the suburbs.

the violence that happens whenever this class of people get together
Hey, I was at PTA meeting last month with this class of people and you know what? No violence broke out. We all talked about teacher appreciation day and the end of school party. Just like those folks in the suburbs do.

Anonymous said...

To Anon #5: I was not referring to this specific instance of violence in KC(and no, I'm not retarded or blaming whitey), as much as commenting on Americans in general accepting the violence that pours out of Iraq on a weekly, daily basis. I'm not turning this into a Bush thing, but anyone who voted for the guy in 06 must find the situation there acceptable, bloody mess and all.

Women's Political Coven said...

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Tony you missed the real news in all this. Beth Gottstein has friends?!

Sassywho said...

Very well done Tony, and apparently it has touched a nerve....

My first thought when I heard about this was... who goes to Ward Parkway mall anymore? With all of the media coverage I was sure that there must have been at least 10 dead...

Anonymous said...

That 2 year old lacks the ability or comprehensive skills to engage in a thought process that should be screaming I NEED TO MOVE OUT OF THE GHETTO!

What the parents were doing, I have no idea, but when you live in a civilization of idiots, shit happens.

You misquoted me to fit your agenda, the full thought is "the violence that happens whenever this class of people get together with booze and ghetto rap." Unless that PTA meeting was jumping like House Party 4: we steelinz yo monay" I don't think your example qualifies as what I was talking about. And I hate to sound like my grandma when talking about ghetto rap, but that's what it is, shootin guns, raping women, selling drugs! bling bling chicken wing! Be like me! (Oh by the way as a ghetto rap artist I take your money and live in a secluded compound in the Hollywood Hills and my investment advisor assures me that with the release of my latest record pandering to a lifestyle of extinction that I will indeed be set for life!)

As far as not being able to move out of the ghetto, that's a bunch of bullshit. While I realize these people can't move on up to the east side, they don't have to stay in the absolute worst part or the city. If you are hearing gunshots on a weekly basis, perhaps it’s time to look for affordable accommodations elsewhere. Go find me someone in those neighborhoods that work a solid 40 hours and doesn't have the sense to get the hell out of the warzone.

People like you have no idea what goes on in other parts of the city. You make your own goddam assumptions and think you can pigeon hole everyone that lives in a particular part of town.

People like me eh? So you berate my assumptions by making assumptions of your own? I don't think that is really going to work out for you.

And look again, just some worthless bag of skin killing or maiming some other worthless bag of skin, or some innocent that lacks the ability or comprehensive skills does not have anything to do with your proposed single mother raising two kids. She would qualify as an innocent. I was envisioning the worthless skin on worthless skin violence as having more to do with gang violence or the drug deal gone wrong. You know, those crime stories you see where everyone in a meth lab drug brawl ends up getting killed and you shrug it off because it’s no big deal because frankly those people were worthless anyways. Sorry I wasn’t clearer. The mother of 2 isn’t worthless, just dumb. She’s already made two mistakes by apparently not using birth control until she was financially stable enough to raise children; in addition she lives in a crime hell and damns her children to the same fate.

I am just tired of ghetto crime, tired of seeing the same victims, tired of seeing the mother of the shooter tell the reporter how good her baby was and that he would never blow someone’s head off while she sits at home all day everyday watching daytime television. Tired of idiots in handcuffs mugging for the camera. Tired of seeing some wild eyed toothless man talk about what a shame it all is. Tired of a citizenry that refuses to call the cops but then goes on TV and calls the cops out for not babysitting everyone in the neighborhood.
I know my post comes off as angry, racist, whatever. I cease to have any tolerance for it. How many programs have been started, how much money donated, how many ideas tried to eliminate this problem in cities across the nation? Nothing works, handouts don’t work, building new and cheap housing does not work, trying to fire up ghetto school districts doesn’t work.

What about personal responsibility? Does that work? What about people that decide to stop whining about how horrible their lives are and maybe taking a look in the mirror and decided to make a fundamental change in their lifestyle? I bet that would work. It’s hard on an individual scale, and impossible on a neighborhood scale, but who knows eh? In my view, the solution has to come from within. These people have to fix their own communities because no one else can. And until they do that I am sick and tired of hearing about how their neighborhoods continue to de-evolve because I feel that as outsiders we are all powerless to stop it. So if they want to kill themselves, fuck em, if they want to raise families and continue to live in that depressing and destructive environment and continue the cycle of the ghetto mentality, fuck em.

I tend to (hopefully) believe that I am not one of these GOP jerkoffs that blabs about pulling up bootstraps etc. But honesty, how do you fix a problem when the problematic elements savor their miserable lifestyle? This isn’t just about this city. It’s nationwide. Has any jurisdiction found a solution that doesn’t involve a TIF district and a bulldozer?

I never mentioned a specific race, or a particular part of town. So before you determine what “People like me” are like, maybe you should work on your reading comprehension skills.

Anonymous said...

Ignorance is bliss

Anonymous said...

Americans in general are racist when it comes to the level of violence they will tolerate. Are you retarded or just stupid. Its not my fault that young black men kill each other like its open season. With your way of looking at things, Im guilty by virtue of being white. Newsflash for ya scooter, I am white, I live in midtown and Ive never shot or killed anyone. I also am not out trying to stop a bunch of hoods from killing each other, but that doesnt mean Im tolerant of the violence, Im just helpless to institute change among a group of people who would rather blame everyone for the problems in their area, well everyone but themselves and the actual perps.
Stop blaming whitey and clean your own house.

This guy hit it right on the head. Quit playing the victim all the time. You guys need to clean up your own society and look at how blacks are perpetuating the violence. When I see a young black man wearing a "Stop Snitching" shirt, I think that says ita all right there. I'm sure that same kid points his finger at whites for all his problems. Turn off the gangsta rap, pull up you pants, buy a shirt that fits you and get off the streets. Jeez! No wonder there is so much racism. People are tired of hearing you guys cry and stick your hands out for freebies.

Anonymous said...

Where are Jesse and Al now? This article makes Imus look like the Pope!

Greg Beck said...

hmmm, sounds like since you all seem all fired up and opinionated maybe it’s time for some of you ?anonymous people to start your own blogs.

Anonymous said...

Tony, why do you complain about racism when you're racist yourself?

Hypocrite...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 11:37

Cuz dat's da blackting ta do.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure that same kid points his finger at whites for all his problems. Turn off the gangsta rap, pull up you pants, buy a shirt that fits you and get off the streets. Jeez! No wonder there is so much racism.

I am curious as to how many black kids you see wearing the stop snitching shirts. I have only seen them wear them on TV.

So because you saw a handful of kids wear those shirts, you are going to stereotype an entire race? Is that what you are saying?

So lets say a white woman like Martha Stewart commits white collar crime. Should I assume that all white women are white collar criminals?

Does Angelina Jolie represent the white race?
Does Mike Moore represent the white race?
Does George Bush represent the white race?

No, so then why do you think a couple of black kids with stop snitchin shirts represent the black race?

Jazo said...

I got pants! suckers!

/lighten up you homos lol

Anonymous said...

You might want to audit a journalism class in the local high school. Shootings in historically violent areas are not new, thus, are not "news". Get it? N-E-W-S. Shootings in suburban KC shopping malls are rare, that is, new. All violence and crimes against innocents in this city are terrible. When shootings spill over into different, traditionally safe areas, it creates a stir. And stays in the headlines longer.

Anonymous said...

I got pants! suckers!

Are they denim or kaki?

ann said...

well- i was at wardparkway on sunday and about a third of the people I was locked in a strore with for four hours were black or brown. they were all scared. the stor across from the one we were locked in sells those hip no snitch t shirts. you can try to make this a racist thing if you want, but the people there will tell you that fear sort of crossed that line long ago. I go to wardparkway mall about 2 times a week. all kinds of people do, thug looking kids, tired old people, loud teenagers.. the 93 year old woman that was thrown down by teenage girls who broke her hip and stole her purse before they were caught on the bus didnt get much press. you might be the most racist person I have read in years, it is just cloaked in cleverness.

Anonymous said...

Sassysue - Welcome to 2007. Ward Pkwy Mall is full of people. Perhaps you should get out of your house sometime.

Tony - What a lazy post. Maybe you should haul your ass with Sassysue to the mall. Most of Target's employees are black for chrissakes.

SmedRock said...

Rock on Greg. :)

Oh yeah, I got pants too!

Anonymous said...

Beth Gottstein is a useless whore. I'm surprised that her purchase of the city council election couldn't also get her a decent cup of joe, instead of the burnt crap they serve up at Starbucks.

Anonymous said...

I've been using Ward Parkway shopping center since I was a kid. This hasn't resembled a suburban "white" mall as you call it in over 15 years. You are an ignorant piece of filth to take something as disturbing as this incident and try and turn it into a race debate.

Faith said...

I'm w/ anonymous at 1:44 p.m. on Sassysue. I go to that mall at least twice a week to work out. I also go there around twice a month to shop. I sat in that Starbucks about 2 months ago as I met with the florist for my wedding. Climb out from under your rock much, SS?

Tony, I hear ya, but I also hear anonymous at 1:06 p.m. It's news because it's not the norm. Sucks, but it's true.

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Anonymous said...

Lots of comment, but as usual only a few get the point of the post,

Tony is not writing about what happened, he has an opinion on that, I am sure. He is writing about what was the response has been.

We have a "chicken little" media that ignores most of what happens east of Troost and politicians who pretend that TIF, potholes and building empty condos and mausoleums are our city's most pressing issues.

Yeah, this was unusual in that it happened at a shopping center in a nicer part of town on a really nice Sunday in spring, but it's not like there haven't been assaults, murders and shootings by sickos with assault weapons in other parts of the city that are just as busy or densely inhabited.

Any loss of life is a tragedy, whenever, wherever and to whoever it happens!

With all the whoopdy-do that the local media is giving to yesterday's mall shooting, you would think it was a major disaster and a repeat of Columbine and VA Tech combined!

Sounds like the shooter wanted to commit suicide by cop and take a few unlucky "innocent bystanders" with him!

Wonder if this means that Ward Parkway Mall's comeback is over and scores of (white)people will move from the area? Or maybe, since two City Councilmembers-elect were there - wonder whether they will look at local gun control measures and the emergency response procedures that are in place to try to make sure that this doesn't happen again - anywhere in our city?

Oh no, guess not, this was perpretrated by a middle aged white guy, guess that means it was an anomaly.

By the way, remember murder and terror attacks increase media ratings and sell newspapers! Are we still in sweeps month or is is coming soon?

Stay tuned and buy that paper! Boy, I wouldn't want to be responsible for Ward Parkway Mall's marketing efforts now!

Anonymous said...

Quoth Anonymous: "We have a "chicken little" media that ignores most of what happens east of Troost and politicians who pretend that TIF, potholes and building empty condos and mausoleums are our city's most pressing issues."

And we have a blogger who (rightly) complains about the tax breaks for rich people moving to condos and so forth...and then turned around and supported the black mayoral candidate who would continue these same policies--apparently just cause he isn't the white guy!

Tony is just a racist who will use every opportunity to frame all minorities as victims and all white people as perpetrators, regardless of pesky things like facts, context, and truth.

Heather said...

I'm still baffled that Ward Parkway is considered "upscale". Did I miss something here?

Anonymous said...

Tony is just a racist who will use every opportunity to frame all minorities as victims and all white people as perpetrators, regardless of pesky things like facts, context, and truth.

3:53pm - You got to be kidding! If he was the racist you say he is, he would have deleted your comments long ago!

If you hate Tony's blog that much, do us all a favor and STOP READING! I mean, really. Your reactionary, reverse-discriminatory, crazy and plain idiot comments have become tedious!

Sprocket time.

Anonymous said...

"I'm still baffled that Ward Parkway is considered "upscale". Did I miss something here?"

No. As usual, Tony missed something here (probably because he never leaves his mom's basement) but didn't hesitate to go off anyway based on his racist assumptions.

Tony, you should stick to what you know, which would pretty much be limited to posts about the KC area "models" whose photos you "enjoy" in your mom's basement. (Ewwwww. I'll bet she's learned to knock before she walks downstairs.)

Anonymous said...

It was real sad to hear yet another spree killing happen today. I wonder what we need to do as a nation to prevent people from becoming so filled with rage that they would kill another person they don't even know.

As for the black crime/white crime media coverage I'm disappointed to say that we all have become desentized to gang killings and young black kids getting shot. It sounds cold, but things that are newsworthy are things that are out of the ordinary, dont happen every day. Eastside violence happens every day. That doesn't make it not sad or a tragedy. It just means it isn't really newsworthy. Just like how we gloss over reports over the latest GI killed in Iraq.

I don't know where Tony is going with the Ward Parkway thing- back in the day when I used to go there as a teenager (back when there used to be movie theatres there) it was a mixed crowd. I can't speak for it now.

upscalesally said...

there are still movie theatres there- there is nothing upscale about it though- there are the usual arabs selling gansta clothes and knock off sunglass'.

Anonymous said...

I think Tony has a unique perspective that takes guts to voice amid white media-hyped corporate-owned conglomerate-pimped public broadcasting hysteria. It's sad when whites try to pass the racial issue off as fantasy even as they actively participate in revictimizing intelligent people of color who are smart enough to point out economic, politcial, and socially slanted inequities in how news is delivered. The news isn't news unless people are dumb enough to believe it. Rock on Tony! Keep those cake-eating, SUV driving suburbanites outraged and overruled. They've been blogged! This is what it's all about.

Anonymous said...

Guts? I guess that is why he hides out in his mother's basement.

Anonymous said...

Guts? I guess that is why he hides out in his mother's basement.

Anonymous said...

Honestly. Tony. When is the last time you've been to Ward Parkway Mall? It's unfortunate that you make a semi-lucid argument and then screw up a little thing like what the scene of the crime is like. It ruins and invalidates your whole argument. Oh well. Can't wait for the almost nudies tomorrow morning.

Xavier Onassis said...

What is with all of the anonymous pussies?

Grow some balls. Or just grow up.

KC Sponge said...

Am I the only one who refuses to watch the news because there is too MUCH coverage of crime and murder on the East side of the city? It's a wonder people are scared to travel down some streets - we paint these residential areas as the front line of some massacre. Terrorism is sensationalized nationally - it's not just a KC thing, but Kansas City sure does make sure to whet the appetite of its citizens for blood and fear and murder. The news has proved to be uninterested in reporting the actual news of things going on - spend 10 minutes reading blogs and you find more than you do in 6 newscasts - so I refuse to watch a bunch of news about dead people and crack addicts. People die every day - I will not let their deaths define how I perceive every 24 hours. It's not respecting their life - it's selling it.

"The D" said...

On a lighter note, I am very proud to be the 45th commenter.

YES!! wooo-hoooo!!!!

KC Sponge said...

Darren - you make me smile. If you were on the news - I'd watch every day. At least you'd make the murders look fun. No feigned concern.

nottahaterrrr said...

Tony, this was wonderful. ♥ you, ♥ your site.

Anonymous said...

What is with all of the anonymous pussies?

Well Xavier Onassis, if that is your real name? I am an anonymous dick NOT and anonymous pussy!

the unthinking lemming said...

Really, KC Sponge. I find most of what is posted on blogs to be repetative of what I have already heard on the mainstream news. Most of Tony's 'news' links are to established media entities. But how would you know not 'watching' the news and all.

Anonymous said...

Tony. YOU fucking disgust ME.

whoops said...

Years ago (mebee 4 or 5), I had a couple of coworkers who lived right near Ward Parkway Mall (and not in pricey houses--other side of Wornall) and turned their noses up at the Target and were nervous at the mall because of all the black kids hanging out there. Somehow I doubt that's an uncommon response even though my sample ain't scientific. When I saw that the shooter was white, I thought, Whoa, that's gonna complicate their stereotypes of the place...which is not necessarily a bad thing.

I think your secret wish for more equal media oversaturation is really part of a plot by the REAL Powers That Be to drown us in ALL SHOOTINGS! ALL THE TIME! EQUAL OVERSATURATION! so we don't pay attention to all the other scams they're pulling on us that matter too.

On another tangent, I do think the phrase "This just doesn't happen here" should be permanently banned on local tv news--because the converse is that it's SUPPOSED to happen somewhere else, and it shouldn't be anywhere.

Sassywho said...
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Anonymous said...

Sassysue -

Um, I'm anonymous because... I don't know. It really doesn't matter. How does merely having your name, # and address verify your false comments? It means nothing. Are you some Tony groupie with a blog? Fantastic.

What you said is incorrect. So what you stand by is incorrect. I happen to live across the street from the mall. I drive by it everyday to work and back. It's busier than I've ever seen it (going back 10 years). Tons of people goto the mall (hence the "there could have been thousands of people in the mall on a nice Sunday afternoon" reports).

Tony's main point was probably a legit one, but he let his anger get in the way of putting up a coherent post. It happens. It's a point Tony has been putting forth (with varying levels of success) since at least when I started reading him. He isn't racist. And I'll be back tomorrow reading his blog. I'm not bashing his opinion, just pointing out that Ward Pkwy Mall is not some White Yuppie hangout where Brown and Black folks are excluded.

How about this... hit Ward Pkwy Mall on a Friday after work. Eat at McAllisters, walk around the mall, visit Target, cruise by the stands in the middle, and then go see a movie. After that, come back and tell me if it's some yuppie white mall akin to OP Mall or Town Center.

Oh, I'm anonymous from 7:52 pm. Like it matters.

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Sassywho said...

hmmmm, unlike anonymous, sassysue has a blog with her name, phone number and address on it. so i stand by what i said.

as someone who worked and rehabbed houses in the "eastside" with it's terrible crime and people unwilling to get out of it(whatever that means), between my former company and the neighborhood associations there were much more people committed to making those places livable. Not everyone desires to move to some "white-bread split-level utopia" in the burbs asshole. Those who left, only left spaces undeveloped for "hip, white folk" to gentrify with their urban uptown loft developments... leaving out those who depend on the necessity of services provided downtown.

You don't like the violence that seeps in from the east side? Great move to Gardner where you can live in your peaceful non-brown existence. And while you are at it don't forget to register that gun asshole.

Sassywho said...

anonymous, i never said that it was only white people or people of color there... only that i wasn't aware of it's renaissance since i was there a year ago for a book sale.

tony's point is very succinct in the fact that it was merely a fraction of what happens in the eastside or iraq, and we as a society are pretty ignorant of that until it happens across the street from your house.

people die, and that is fucked up. ignoring peoples suffering until it occurs "across the street from where you live" is even more fucked up.

deal.

Anonymous said...

Ward Parkway Mall was once the "upscale" mall, and I drove there from Olathe to shop on Saturdays....many moons ago. Now I wouldn't go there if you paid me too. Too many unsupervised kids in the mall...too many hood-rats in the parking lot. Am I surprised by this event?...Not really. BTW: I haven't lived in the KC area for 2 1/2 yrs now so I'm sure the situation hasn't improved....

D5H said...

haha, these comments are hilarious. Its like reading the comments on a Whitlock column.

Anonymous said...

I think a big part of the problem with violence in minority communities is that the police are distrusted. There is a "no snitching" mentality. (See CNN's Anderson Cooper who recently did a series on the topic.) A "we'll handle it on our own" line of thought. All that results is more gangland retribution killings and random civillians killed in the crossfire.

When will this country wake up and change the current unequivical belief that "the right to bear arms" is unrestricted. The Constitution is 220 years old for God's sake and the Founding Fathers didn't envision semi-automatic handguns that can fire 25 rounds in moments.

The "People kill, guns don't" line is BS. Look at the stats, handgun deaths in this contry are rampant. Even though a number of states allow handguns, how many times has a civillian carrying a gun stopped a violent incident? Zero to my knowledge.

KC Sponge said...

Mr. Lemming - I'm sorry, blogs are a little different - at least the ones that I choose to read. They tell me what is going on in the community, not what happened at the 7-11 last night. I choose to get my news there - because I get to choose the news that I read. The Star and The Pitch are useful in their own way - sometimes - but the same writers say the same things. I enjoy reading the blogs because they spark conversation about what is happening rather than just preaching danger and sadness. So yeah, I would have to say as someone who doesn't watch the news - but has on many occasions been exposed, which accounts for my experience (but please, if you have a station you would recommend, by all means . . .) - that I'm glad that I didn't spend hours talking about what happened at Ward Parkway Center and trying to create my own connection to the most recent tragedy of the day. I'm saddened by what happened and feel for the victims and their families and friends - and this is a forum I would rather discuss it in as opposed to watching LIVE, On-the-scene, pseudo bullshit. That's my choice, that's my opinion. Soak it up or squeeze it out.

Sassywho said...

hey, wasn't there a comment that accused me of being a cheerleader for Tony? Given that I'm a rabid/foaming at the mouth feminist, I hardly think he needs that kind of street-cred.

Anonymous said...

Sassywho is pretty cute and her profile says she wants to be a sex therapist. Excuse me for a minute...

"The D" said...

YES!! I'M #62. Will get the last word?

Wait, I don't want that kind of pressure. Someone else comment. BUT WAIT UNTIL I'M FINISHED, NO CUTS!

Sponge, I am the News! Remind me to tell you the story about how I met Huey Lewis. I don't know how to play the drums, or any musical instrament for that mater (skin flute excluded). Anyway "THE NEWS" needed a drummer and because I punched their drummer in the mouth for hitting on my sister. They said I was going to have to do. I said no way and ran out of the room.

True story or maybe not, I can't remember.

Any way you kids play nice or your will all be grounded.

Jazo said...

Anonymous said...@10:18 hasn't lived here in 2 1/2 years but knows everything about WP mall there is to know. Because kids & mall rats = mentally ill gunmen.

sry d maybe there will be 1 more reply.

Nightmare said...

I haven't seen this many anonymous faces since I was at my last anal gang bang with NGD's sister. Holy Diver!

mainstream said...

TONY WTF?

I was expecting a diatribe on the obvious risks of a predominantly female city council.

As if we need one more thing to worry about. With so many skirts at city hall a mall massacre could take out half our city council.

Friendless said...

It is truly tragic that black-on-black crime is so common that it doesn't rate as news anymore, but that really is the case. Murder is the leading cause of death for young black men, and 99.9% of the time it will be another black man killing him. And the problem is that its all caused by a self-perpetuating culture of poverty and violence. The culture is the real problem, becasue even when they get rich they bring the problems with them, e.g. Biggie, Tupac, ODB, Proof.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Heather said...

I'm still baffled that Ward Parkway is considered "upscale". Did I miss something here?

I assume you're referring to the mall and not the neighborhoods?
I certainly hope so, because if you can show me a house in the suburbs or sticks worth more than any of the properties at the intersection of 55th Street; I'll buy your coffee every day for a year.

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